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I have experienced something like that, though it wasn't as big a problem for 
me. This was only in 12-u, but here goes... I was trying out for a team that 
would only take 1 goalie. Any other coach would have taken me instead of the 
other goalie who was there, but the other goalie happened to be the coach's 
daughter's best friend. Obviously, it was not as big a problem for me because 
of the abundance of teams in my area, and another team was glad to accept me. 
But there's nothing you can do in that situation, just try to find another 
team or wait another year and try again. Another reason why I'd rather play 
for a team with a non-parent coach.

Maggie #31

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I saw this story on the THN Web site (actually, the January 22nd issue has
several stories on women's hockey, including the US-Canadian rivalry):

Lighter pucks tried out in women's action

January 22, 2001

One aspect of the women's game lagging behind others in development is
shooting. That leads to an obvious question: Could a lighter puck lead to a
better game?

University of Manitoba's Jeff Leiter is conducting a study with three new
pucks, all lighter than the traditional six-ounce puck. They weigh 5-1/2
ounces, five ounces and 4-1/2 ounces. Results of the study are expected in
April.

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The updating of the USA Girls'/Women's Ice Hockey Teams Page at 
whockey.com is moving along.  If you think that your page needs 
updating, or you have never been listed, please send your information 
to Debbie Minden at .  The changes should be 
ready within a month or two.

If you are on a team that is now defunct please send that information 
as well.  The team won't be deleted without corroboration, but it 
will point us in the right direction.

Send the following information.

Team
Level
Location
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Contact
Website

Thanks for all your help.

Debbie Minden 

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Subject: Lighter Pucks?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:40:28 -0800
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Sure, lighter pucks...Sorry, I just don't see the point. What's wrong? Guys
think we can't roof it as well? Guys think we can't shoot it as hard?  So
what. We're not playing with them. Which means we learn to adjust to play
the game OUR way. If we were to play with the men do you think THEY'D want
to play with a lighter puck? Not likely. So, we'd be playing with a standard
puck in those instances anyhow.

What's next then? Let's skate on 3/4 size rinks. Let's make the net bigger.
Oh, get rid of the pants and wear little padded skirts. I know, I'm getting
silly about the whole thing, but...no, sorry, we learn to play with the
standard equipment on a standard rink with the standard puck. Women as a
whole don't play the game like men do with that puck, what does that matter?
Change the rules or the weight of the puck or the size of the rink and we
might as well change the name of the game...I wanted to play hockey. I do
play hockey. Let's leave it the way it is!

Debbie

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In a message dated 1/30/01 10:40:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> Sure, lighter pucks...Sorry, I just don't see the point. What's wrong? Guys
> think we can't roof it as well? Guys think we can't shoot it as hard?  So
> what. We're not playing with them. Which means we learn to adjust to play
> the game OUR way. If we were to play with the men do you think THEY'D want
> to play with a lighter puck? 

I hear ya Debbie!  The whole idea of the "lighter" puck is not new at all, 
they have been pitching them to Youth Coaches like me for several years and 
every year we say "Thanks, but no thanks!"  Heck, I probably have 50 of them  
somewhere in my basement and those are the 50 I HAVEN'T remembered to pitch.  
We've always called them "Mite" pucks, cause every year we are asked to try 
them out on mite age children.  I coach older children now, but when I did 
coach children that young,  I felt no reason to train them on a puck that 
would NEVER be used in a game!

> W Women as a
> whole don't play the game like men do with that puck, what does that matter?
> 


Exactly!  The Women's game is a "different" game, but that does NOT 
neccessarily translate into an "inferior" game.  I play for both all-male 
teams against all-male opponents and also for a women's travel team who play 
against women and to me, it's ALL hockey.  Currently I am coaching a boys 
team and running a brand new (first time in our City) Girls program and Girls 
travel teams.  Parents ask me all the time what the difference in the two 
games are and really the only glaring thing I can come up with (from my own 
personal experience) is that the women's game seems to have alot more action 
going on in front of the net.  And as one of those players who likes to be in 
front of the net, I find the women's game to be every bit as aggressive and 
exciting as the men's.  I find myself with my rear on the ice equally between 
both games.  ( :

> Change the rules or the weight of the puck or the size of the rink and we
> might as well change the name of the game...I wanted to play hockey. I do
> play hockey. Let's leave it the way it is!

As someone who really knows zilch about any sports other than hockey, I have 
to say I was really surprised when I first enrolled my own daughter in 
softball and basketball and found that those balls came in different sizes!  
It made me proud and smug to play and coach a sport where we EXPECT our 4 
year olds to play just like the big boys AND girls!

Jackie

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From: "Phil Cottrell" 
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Subject: TSN Challenge: Canada Vs. USA
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:18:13 -0800
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Don't forget the latest Canada/USA series, live on TSN in Canada. Nothing on
the USA Hockey site about any American coverage, don't know if TSN is
available on any American satellites...

Weds, Jan. 31: 6:30 PM (Pacific) 2001 Women's Hockey TSN Challenge: Canada
vs. USA from Calgary, AB

Fri., Feb. 2: 6:00 PM (Pacific) 2001 Women's Hockey TSN Challenge: Canada
vs. USA from Denver, CO

Phil

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US coverage....now that'd be a miracle.

Although, I do get to see the one in Denver, but we're gonna miss the 3rd 
period. Ya know, it'd be nice if they could push the ice back for our game by 
an hour, so we could actually see the entire game. But oh well, it should 
still be fun.

Jennie