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Can anyone tell me how the WCHA Players of the Week are choosen?

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I'm not sure if this will help, but our co-ed adult rec. team was formed
because of the B.S. that some other teams allowed happen on and off the ice.
We put together this brief 'Team Standards' statement and everyone who
joined the team had to read and agree with the philosophy. Now we just worry
about competing in the spirit of good sportsmanship and drinking lots of
beer afterwards :)
And it really has worked out well for us. We remind each other about our
agreement if someone ever gets out of hand...
So far, so good.

-Mad Dog #20

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From: Chris Anderson [mailto:email@hidden]
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Yes the NHL is a bad influence on kids as far as making it appear like 
fighting is acceptable to a certain extent; however, fighting in hockey does

have its history and place in the game, kind of like boxing and other 
fighting type sports.

There is a difference when players go one on one with their fists against an

opponant to change the momentum of a game or give a guy who is pulling cheep

shots a little wake-up call, vice going after someone to really hurt or 
seriously injure them.  Most cases of fighting are just an adrinaline type 
altercation and not meant to seriously injure someone.  There have been 
cases where I've gotten into a fight during a game, but once you're off the 
ice, it's over, and everyone will even go and have a drink together as 
friends.

I just wanted to point out that there is more to the issue than what's on 
the surface, and there is way more violence on TV that influence children 
worse (ie. the news, movies, WWF, video games etc.) than hockey ever could.

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ok..it might help to include the link...

http://www.hangovershockey.com/html/who.html

-cheers

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I'm not sure if this will help, but our co-ed adult rec. team was formed
because of the B.S. that some other teams allowed happen on and off the ice.
We put together this brief 'Team Standards' statement and everyone who
joined the team had to read and agree with the philosophy. Now we just worry
about competing in the spirit of good sportsmanship and drinking lots of
beer afterwards :)
And it really has worked out well for us. We remind each other about our
agreement if someone ever gets out of hand...
So far, so good.

-Mad Dog #20

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Can anyone point me to a rule that states that goalies must wear the
neck protector which hangs from the face mask? Last my daughter's team
received a penalty because the goalie was not wearing one. The referee
could not find the rule in the book.

Thanks
George

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There is not a USA Hockey rule that says this. Neckguards are not even
required by USA hockey.

However, our local league here requires them. They require neck guards for
all players including goaltenders. (And the plastic shield doesn't count -
it has to be one of the Velcro ones that the players wear).

Check with your association. It may indeed be a local rule.

- Coral

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> Subject: Goalie""billy goat" Neck Protector
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> Can anyone point me to a rule that states that goalies must wear the
> neck protector which hangs from the face mask? Last my daughter's team
> received a penalty because the goalie was not wearing one. The referee
> could not find the rule in the book.
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> Thanks
> George
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Hi there,

I'm still really new to the sport of hockey - well, playing it, that is.  I'm still taking skating lessons (the only adult and the only female in a class of 8 to 13 year old boys!!) but the time will come soon when I take a hockey clinic, for which I'll need full equipment.

My question is this - any advice on the equipment I should get?  Specifically, should I go for the stuff made specifically for women or would the men's stuff be OK?  I'm most concerned about the chest pads, because I'm a tad busty up top and don't really want to get squished.

Thanks for any help!!
Natasha

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I think the goalies should always wear the plastic
shield. I am the goalie coach for a 12 and Under girls
hockey team (even though I had never played goalie
until this past Saturday lol). Twice this season when
I have been shooting on my goalie the puck has
deflected off of her chest protector and hit her neck.
I feel awful for it, but we both understand it
happens. The second time was this past week, and she
now wears her plastic shield. The shield is a lot
better then neckguards because I will actually stop
the puck from hitting your neck (in most cases).

By the way....when I played goalie, it was in a
scrimmage between our 12 year olds and a high school
girls team. They switched their goalie so mine anted
to switch. Even though the stick/blocker/glove were
the wrong way, it was the most fun Ive ever had
playing hockey!! When I start actually playing again
(in 3 1/2 years) you'll know where to look for me!!   

Please voice your opinions on the neck protectors. Im
my opinion, the neck guard won't do anything for a
goalie....the plastic neck protector will.

=====
Jessica R. Yeo 
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I'm not sure if this will help, but our co-ed adult rec. team was formed
because of the B.S. that some other teams allowed happen on and off the ice.
We put together this brief 'Team Standards' statement and everyone who
joined the team had to read and agree with the philosophy. Now we just worry
about competing in the spirit of good sportsmanship and drinking lots of
beer afterwards :)
And it really has worked out well for us. We remind each other about our
agreement if someone ever gets out of hand...
So far, so good.

-Mad Dog #20

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From: Chris Anderson [mailto:email@hidden]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:36 PM
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: team policies on behavior


Yes the NHL is a bad influence on kids as far as making it appear like 
fighting is acceptable to a certain extent; however, fighting in hockey does

have its history and place in the game, kind of like boxing and other 
fighting type sports.

There is a difference when players go one on one with their fists against an

opponant to change the momentum of a game or give a guy who is pulling cheep

shots a little wake-up call, vice going after someone to really hurt or 
seriously injure them.  Most cases of fighting are just an adrinaline type 
altercation and not meant to seriously injure someone.  There have been 
cases where I've gotten into a fight during a game, but once you're off the 
ice, it's over, and everyone will even go and have a drink together as 
friends.

I just wanted to point out that there is more to the issue than what's on 
the surface, and there is way more violence on TV that influence children 
worse (ie. the news, movies, WWF, video games etc.) than hockey ever could.


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>Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:29:12 EST
>
>In a message dated 2/19/01 3:44:08 PM Central Standard Time,
>email@hidden writes:
>
>
> > 1 player is currently on house arrest and in anger management classes. 1
> > player had a 30 day + 5 game suspension from the league for bashing 
>someone
> > in the head with his stick and spitting on the score keeper. 1 player 
>broke
> > a glass window at a tournament and was on league suspension for awhile.
> > There were a couple others too, but that!
> >
>
>
>getting on to another topic, and not answering the original 
>question........
>
>And where do they learn this from?   These children are lead to believe 
>that
>fighting is an acceptable part of the game (as anyone who has ever watched 
>or
>attended an NHL game  can attest to), but it really does not belong in the
>game at all.   If the NHL would crack down on the fighting and if leagues,
>rinks, and coaches would crack down as well, the game would be much better
>for it.
>
>Fortunately, I play on an adult women;s team, where fighting is  a very 
>rare
>occurance.  (when & if it does happen, they are thrown out of the game.)  
>It
>is incidents like the ones mentioned above that always have, and
>(unfortunately) probably always will, give our great sport a bum rap.
>
>Jill
>
># 77 Brooklyn Blades
>
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At 12:04 PM 2/20/01 -0600, Natasha Dunaeff wrote:

>
>My question is this - any advice on the equipment I should get?
Specifically, should I go for the stuff made specifically for women or
would the men's stuff be OK?  I'm most concerned about the chest pads,
because I'm a tad busty up top and don't really want to get squished.

Try before you buy.  Go to hockey stores and pro shops and try on what they
have.  If there aren't hockey stores and pro shops where you live, try to
find women who play hockey, and ask if you can try on their equipment. 

When I was buying, I tried on a couple of shoulder pads (those are the
things that go over your shoulders and chest, but they're really mostly for
protecting shoulders) and discovered that the women's models I saw were
made for women bustier than I.  I ended up buying men's shoulder pads, and
just altering the front by adding a small dart.  YMMV, but try different
kinds and see what you like.

One other piece of advice:  At first I used those garter belts to hold up
my socks.  When I finally switched to the bike shorts that hold the pelvic
protector and also have velcro for your socks, I wondered why I'd waited so
long.





--Anne Paulson
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Subject: Re: Goalies should wear plastic shield
From: Coral Ludford 
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According to the South Eastern District Officials home page this is USA
Hockey's stand on neckguards:

   1. OPTIONAL NECKGUARDS - The USA Hockey Playing Rules does not mandate
the use of NECKGUARD/LACERATION Protectors. This omission has been
intentional, and is the direct result of the opinions of the Safety and
Protective Equipment Committee (SPEC), on which I serve. SPEC has yet to see
Any concrete research, which supports the use of this piece of equipment. In
fact, there is some evidence the equipment might cause more injury than it
prevents. None of this has been supported by acceptable scientific research,
and therefore SPEC has chosen to recommend not mandating its use at this
time. This does not prevent a local league/association/team from mandating
it for its players. USA Hockey does permit the each local association /
league / team to require the use of a neckguard during games played under
its jurisdiction. If your local league/association/team does mandate its
use, please be guided by the local rule and enforce it as appropriate. Any
questions regarding this issue may be directed to Brett A. Parson.

I have also been told that our league requires them for protection against
skate blades when a player falls or a goal tender attempts to recover a puck
not a puck striking a player in the throat.

Personally, as a goaltender, I don't wear the plastic shield. I don't like
it. It clanks against my helmet and is quite distracting to me. I also don't
like the way it feels to look through it when the puck is at my feet. I have
bought and tried three different neck/throat protectors and haven't found
one that I'm comfortable with. But for goaltenders who can get used to it, I
think it's a great piece of protective equipment.

-Coral


> From: Jessica Yeo 
> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:20:45 -0800 (PST)
> To: email@hidden
> Subject: Goalies should wear plastic shield
> 
> I think the goalies should always wear the plastic
> shield. I am the goalie coach for a 12 and Under girls
> hockey team (even though I had never played goalie
> until this past Saturday lol). Twice this season when
> I have been shooting on my goalie the puck has
> deflected off of her chest protector and hit her neck.
> I feel awful for it, but we both understand it
> happens. The second time was this past week, and she
> now wears her plastic shield. The shield is a lot
> better then neckguards because I will actually stop
> the puck from hitting your neck (in most cases).
> 
> By the way....when I played goalie, it was in a
> scrimmage between our 12 year olds and a high school
> girls team. They switched their goalie so mine anted
> to switch. Even though the stick/blocker/glove were
> the wrong way, it was the most fun Ive ever had
> playing hockey!! When I start actually playing again
> (in 3 1/2 years) you'll know where to look for me!!
> 
> Please voice your opinions on the neck protectors. Im
> my opinion, the neck guard won't do anything for a
> goalie....the plastic neck protector will.
> 
> =====
> Jessica R. Yeo 
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I hate the plastic hanging thing, I actually wasn't all that fond of the 
throat guard with the velcro until I took a slapshot off the throat without 
one at all and now will not be insane enough not to wear one, but I still 
won't wear one of the hanging ones, they get in the way (at least for me they 
do, other people may not feel that way, but stuff like that is individual) 
I've not had a problem wearing my velcro neck guard when pucks come up, so I 
won't switch until something makes me feel unsafe in it. That's my opinion 
anyway, I think you should wear whichever one you feel most comfortable in as 
long as you feel safe and they are both rated safe.

                                             --JB

> I think the goalies should always wear the plastic
> shield. I am the goalie coach for a 12 and Under girls
> hockey team (even though I had never played goalie
> until this past Saturday lol). Twice this season when
> I have been shooting on my goalie the puck has
> deflected off of her chest protector and hit her neck.
> I feel awful for it, but we both understand it
> happens. The second time was this past week, and she
> now wears her plastic shield. The shield is a lot
> better then neckguards because I will actually stop
> the puck from hitting your neck (in most cases).
> 
> By the way....when I played goalie, it was in a
> scrimmage between our 12 year olds and a high school
> girls team. They switched their goalie so mine anted
> to switch. Even though the stick/blocker/glove were
> the wrong way, it was the most fun Ive ever had
> playing hockey!! When I start actually playing again
> (in 3 1/2 years) you'll know where to look for me!!   
> 
> Please voice your opinions on the neck protectors. Im
> my opinion, the neck guard won't do anything for a

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Natasha:
    There are some manufacturers out there who are making some nice stuff
for Women including Louisville, Itech and Missions' new line, but as many
women I've talked to agree, it's hard to walk in to a local shop and find
it!  It definitely depends upon your locale.  When shopping for gender
specific gear, try to remember that these manufacturers created this gear to
be comparable to a men's Elite line.  It is durable, light weight and
proportioned to fit a women's body, all without restricting your range of
motion...which brand to go with is very much personal taste and body build.
If you can't try it on in a store, go shopping on the net and educate
yourself on what's out there...then pick a company with a woman hockey
player on staff who'll spend the time listening to your needs and concerns
and, yes, has a liberal return policy, so you have a level of comfort when
the time comes to buy...let me know if I can help further, my best,
Cathi Thomas
www.chickwear.com
...the edge in women's hockey equipment
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> Hi there,
>
> I'm still really new to the sport of hockey - well, playing it, that is.
I'm still taking skating lessons (the only adult and the only female in a
class of 8 to 13 year old boys!!) but the time will come soon when I take a
hockey clinic, for which I'll need full equipment.
>
> My question is this - any advice on the equipment I should get?
Specifically, should I go for the stuff made specifically for women or would
the men's stuff be OK?  I'm most concerned about the chest pads, because I'm
a tad busty up top and don't really want to get squished.
>
> Thanks for any help!!
> Natasha
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This will be a rather lengthy message, but I hope it sparks a few comments.
The story goes back 12 years, but the practice is still going on.

In 1989, when my daughter was 8, she wanted to go to summer hockey camp. The
logical choice was Miami University's summer hockey camp, in our home town
of Oxford, OH. It's a very well respected camp. Prior to 1988 girls had been
allowed to attend, although the camp was designed for boys. There was no
true girls dorm (the girls roomed with female tennis players attending
another camp), and the girls changed in a bathroom.

For the 1988 season, the camp director, with the blessing of the ice arena
director, decided to create a completely separate program for boys and
girls. In January, 1989, I signed my daughter up, and I failed to mark the
"sex" box on the application. In early May, the camp director called me and
told me that no one had realized until May that my daughter was a girl, and
she couldn't attend, because not enough girls had signed up. We set up a
meeting to discuss the situation, and I learned how the system worked.
Apparently, two summers before my daughter was to attend, an incident
occurred. During an off-ice swimming session, a male counselor allegedly
'touched' a female camper in an inappropriate way. This incident was the
catalyst for the camp director changing the admission requirements. I asked
the director if background checks were done on the counselors, since it
seemed to me that a male counselor could have 'touched' a male camper, and
the harm to a young male might be as significant, but he said that he didn't
see any reason to conduct extensive checks on counselors, since the problem
was essentially a male/female one. Since there were now two separate
programs, he didn't have to worry about the girl/boy problem, because there
hadn't been enough girls signed up to have a separate girl's program, and so
the girl's session was cancelled. End of problem.

Quoting from Miami's 2001 Hockey Camp Information Sheet for Players and
Parents:

"Each week's program (boys or girls) is offered under the condition that a
minimum of 36 participants per age group must sign up for the session by
February 15 or the session will be canceled, and all fees refunded.
Identical separate programs exist each week for boys and girls. Girls will
be housed in a separate dormitory from the boys. More information will be
provided at check-in."

Essentially, this means that 36 to 72 girls EACH WEEK must sign up,
depending on the programs and age groups offered. Each year, about 10-15
girls sign up, and their money is refunded. No marketing goes into
recruitment of female campers, coaches, or counselors. Miami thinks it has
the perfect solution to keeping girls from attending their summer hockey
camp.

As I said at the beginning of my message, I've waited until now to write
this. Back in 1989, I told my daughter that we could take the story to the
press, and there might be some repercussions, maybe even people losing their
jobs. At the very least, there might be some bad blood on her squirt team,
since the arena director was a friend and had a son on her team. And, we
still had to live in Oxford. Her answer was very mature for an 8 year-old.
She said, "Dad, I just want to play hockey. Let's find another camp." She
spent the next two summers attending camp at Ridley College, in St.
Catherines. She had a great experience there, and at others, including IHC
in Detroit Lakes.

My daughter is now attending Cornell, and she could care less about Miami
and it's policies. But I've been unwilling to let this pass. I think folks
should know how a public institution can claim it's faculty is promoting
diversity, when in fact the opposite is occurring.

Thanks for the forum.

Ron Goldey

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Thank you all for so many responses and suggestions on dealing with our team
behavior dilemma! Just for the record, we are talking about women's B and C
level team, not kids. I think I hit a nerve with you all based on the
responses. We do have some written bylaws and rules, but have not done
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Looking for inline skaters in the Sacramento/Davis area:

We have a beautiful new rink in Davis, a good coach, and need more good
women to support the development of a women's league! We currently have
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I am looking for a rule not a "should".

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Hey,

I am so happy to see someone with me. I am the in a very similar situation
as you. I am still learning to skate as an adult and I am going to play in
games soon. I've got all the equipment I needed, I think. I've tried on both
women and men shoulder pads, I feel the men ones are better. They make
better and feels much stronger than women ones. So, I go with the men's
pads. Plus, most of the hockey stuff are made for men initially, so they
made them better. Also, I feel comfy in men equipment, so why bother to look
for women ones? They are harder to find and maybe more expensive.

Gen


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Hi there,

I'm still really new to the sport of hockey - well, playing it, that is.
I'm still taking skating lessons (the only adult and the only female in a
class of 8 to 13 year old boys!!) but the time will come soon when I take a
hockey clinic, for which I'll need full equipment.

My question is this - any advice on the equipment I should get?
Specifically, should I go for the stuff made specifically for women or would
the men's stuff be OK?  I'm most concerned about the chest pads, because I'm
a tad busty up top and don't really want to get squished.

Thanks for any help!!
Natasha

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Hi, I'm going to a big tryout in about a month, where the goalies get 
evaluated separately from the players. In a backwards-skating drill, I've had 
a problem the past few years. I don't know who would know, possibly coaches, 
but do you want to see goalies skating backwards A) in crossovers like the 
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From: Linda M 
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> I'm most concerned about the chest pads,
because I'm a tad busty up top and don't really want to get squished.
<

Definitely get women's pads that come down over the bust, if you are busty.
  I wore mens for years (also busty, here) and they'd ride up and cause no
end of aggravation.   I put "downriggers" on them - elastic bands that I
could attach to my belt to hold them down - but they still didn't stay put
correctly.   The mens pads were completely a nuisance.
 
More importantly, though, I ended up with 6 months of mystery medical
inquiries due to abnormalities in the breast ...  some doctor finally said
"well its pretty rare but this COULD be caused by a sudden sharp blow to
the breast" and I went "duh!!!!!!" and explained I played ice hockey
without full chest protection.  He thought I was nuts.   I thought it was
an expensive way to learn I should have invested in proper pads.   

I bought the Cooper womens and have had no problems with shoulder/chest
pads - or breasts - ever since.   Definitely get something that covers the
subject!

- Linda Meichle

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Hi Jessica,

You should encourage or "make" your goalies wear a neckguard that protects
against skates.  That is the one that is around the throat like a
turtleneck.  They don't have to buy a special goalie one.  This is in
addition to the plastic shield.  The plastic shield is not going to protect
the neck from being nicked with a skate.  There are no paramedics standing
by in most hockey leagues and a player could bleed to death in moments from
this type of injury.  These neck guards are mandatory in Canada.  I
currently play in the States and no one wants to wear any equipment at all.
I think most of the players would play naked if they could :)!

My 2 cents,
Tanya, #35

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This reminds me of an advertising jingle I've been hearing on the radio that 
goes something like this, "One always remembers where he has buried the 
hatchet."
Because I have become more involved in the grassroots organizing of girls 
hockey in my area (MO and IL) I have been experiencing discrimination against 
women/girls hockey and coming up against the attitude that girls shouldn't 
play hockey.   Discrimination is alive and well out there!  It's very 
frustrating.  In our area we only have enough girls to field one team in 12U 
and 15U and have the problem of finding teams to play us because the boys' 
coaches don't want their boys to play us.  We take their ice time and that 
irritates them too.   So, any progress made is very slow.  You just keep 
plugging away and try not to alienate anyone cuz alot of this organization is 
what I call "the good 'ole boys club".  
It sure sounds like they have got a slick solution.  But life is short and 
you have to pick your battles carefully.
Debbie 

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Im only 18, and Im a goalie coach for a 12 & under
team, but I prefer my goalie to do c cuts. Sometimes I
let her do crossovers, but most of the time I have her
do backwards skating in her stance. In my opinion, as
a goalie, that is waht you should do because you would
never do crossovers in a game.

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Can anyone recommend a good in season tranning program?  On off days 
when I don't practice or play i usually use the ellipital, leg press, 
leg extension, ham curls, hip machine, wall sits, push ups, and sit 
ups.  Is there a program that I sould be following, for either 
strenghting or endurence??

Thanks

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George:

I assume from your email address that you are looking for the rule in
Canada:

There is NO rule requiring the equipment that you are refering to!

The helmet rule is 24 (b) which says in part "all players, including
goaltenders, shall wear a CSA approved hockey helmet" and "Type 3 facial
protector if the position they play is goaltender.  This protection is
distinguishable by a blue sticker bearing the CSA certification mark"

Note that rule 24 (f) which talks about neck protectors gives further
details in case book situation #23:

"Goaltenders in Minor or Female hockey who wear an attachment to the
mask or helmet designed to protect the throat, must still wear a BNQ
approved throat protector."

In other words, the fabric throat protector is a requirement for all
players, and goalies are NOT required to wear the plastic attachment on
their helmet.
 
I'm afraid my brother/sister referee made a mistake.


Liam


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> Can anyone point me to a rule that states that goalies must wear the
> neck protector which hangs from the face mask? Last my daughter's team
> received a penalty because the goalie was not wearing one. The referee
> could not find the rule in the book.
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> George
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Sounds like you're doing the right stuff for building strength, I don't know 
if you mentioned squats or powercleans but they are the overall best for 
working the whole body, especially the legs.  If you want to build 
endurance, weight training will probably not suffice.  By endurance I mean 
building up your cardio aerobic/anaerobic rates.  First you want to get a 
good aerobic base - if you don't have this yet a great way to build it up is 
by running/biking/rollerblading (although I would'nt do this too much, it 
may lead to bad form).  Do this for half an hour, three days a week, keeping 
within 80% of your max heart rate the whole time.  I'd have to read some 
more about building anaerobic strength, if you want to know more let me 
know.  You really need to have a good anaerobic base for hockey.  I haven't 
found any websites specifically dedicated to hockey fitness, but a great 
book is "Complete Conditioning for Ice Hockey" by Peter Twist.  If you're at 
all serious about hockey you need to read this book.  Good luck!
Kristin
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I have been e-mailing, trying to find out my password (about 10 times!!), and
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