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Women-in-Hockey Digest    Friday, October 29 1999    Volume 01 : Number 526



In this issue:

   College Teams
   Re: College Teams
   Re: College Teams
   Re: College Teams
   Rockering
   Re: College Teams
   the Zambonis
   Re: the Zambonis
   Fw: CHA Release/ French release to follow

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:50:33 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: College Teams

Just curious... Does anyone one the list have any experience in "setting up" 
a college hockey team (or any other sport)?  I'm not even sure of the first 
step but I have been warned about all the work. (Approval and funding being 
the hardest of the two) I am a student at the University of South Florida. We 
currently have a Men's Team but they wont let me even try out. I know several 
other students (women) who want to play as well so it's not that there just 
isn't any interest. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:31:41 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: College Teams

In a message dated 10/28/99 12:55:58 PM Central Daylight Time, 
email@hidden writes:

<<  We 
 currently have a Men's Team but they wont let me even try out. >>


Aren't there laws against that?

i.e. Title IX

Jill

# 77 LI Hurricanes
"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:35:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "J.E. Hamer" 
Subject: Re: College Teams

> <<  We 
>  currently have a Men's Team but they wont let me even try out. >>
> 
> 
> Aren't there laws against that?
> 
> i.e. Title IX
> 

I don't think Title IX applies to club teams which I believe is what USF
has.  Title IX only applies to varsity sports governed by the NCAA.

J.E.

________________________________________
 
 J.E. Hamer
 Department of Biostatistics
 University of North Carolina
 (w)919-966-6094
 (h)919-933-1448
 http://jhamer.homepage.com 

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:27:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: "J.E. Hamer" 
Subject: Re: College Teams

Just to follow up what I just wrote, University of South Florida is listed
as a division 3 team in the American Collegiate Hockey Association (ACHA).
ACHA is the governing body for most of the club teams in the U.S.  The
ACHA just formed division 3 for college club teams just starting out.  As
far as I know, the ACHA only has men's divisions.  The University of North
Carolina at Chapel Hill isn't classfied by the ACHA, but they play
Division 2 Clubs (Duke, NC State, Virginia) and they do have females on
the team.  I don't know how you feel about checking.  It is allowed in the
ACHA and can be brutal.  I watched Penn State's Division 1 ACHA team for
several years.  These guys were huge.  Not that this is a deterant, but
it's very different from women's hockey.  Also another problem you might
encounter with a women's only club is finding other college clubs in your
area.  All of the division 3 clubs seem to be in the South.  Maybe you can
make a protest about playing on the guys team at a higher level at your
school.

For more info about the ACHA check out www.achahockey.org

J.E. 

________________________________________
 
 J.E. Hamer
 Department of Biostatistics
 University of North Carolina
 (w)919-966-6094
 (h)919-933-1448
 http://jhamer.homepage.com 

      ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._
       `6_ 6  )   `-.  (     ).`-.__.`)
       (_Y_.)'  ._   )  `._ `. ``-..-'
     _..`--'_..-_/  /--'_.' ,'
    (il),-''  (li),'  ((!.-'

 GO STATE! BEAT ILLINI!
 JOE PATERNO GOES FOR 316!
________________________________________

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:47:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: LM           
Subject: Rockering

Also, rockering doesn't last forever.  I just had mine rockered after
having new blades installed a year ago.  It happened that I skate the
night before having them done and then the night I did have them rockered
which was just the next night. It made a tremendous difference.  I was
much more stable.  Also, here (Chicago area) I could get them rockered for
only $9.50 a mere $4.50 more than regular sharpening.  This was at Jerry's
in Skokie for those from this area.

Lastly, the guy at the store said rockering lasted about 20-30
sharpenings.

Laura

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:12:23 -0400
From: Louise 
Subject: Re: College Teams

At 01:50 PM 28/10/1999 -0400, email@hidden wrote:
>Just curious... Does anyone one the list have any experience in "setting up" 
>a college hockey team (or any other sport)?  I'm not even sure of the first 
>step but I have been warned about all the work. (Approval and funding being 
>the hardest of the two) I am a student at the University of South Florida. We 
>currently have a Men's Team but they wont let me even try out. I know several 
>other students (women) who want to play as well so it's not that there just 
>isn't any interest. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks.

Hi, Lulu.  (Now you're asking about something I feel passionate about, so I
hope you'll accept this as an apology for giving you such a hard time
before.)  Yes, it is a lot of work.  It helps to get a few other people
involved in the work right away.  Start collecting names of potential
players, coaches, & helpers too.  (Talk to any woman you see wearing hockey
skates at public skating, get the name of any woman you meet playing shinny
or on men's teams, put up signs on campus, etc.)

First, to add to J.E.'s comment, I believe that Title IX applies to any
program in US federally funded educational facilities/institutions, not
just to varsity sports.  I also believe that when we were lobbying at Ohio
State for increased access to facilities and funding for our women's hockey
club, it didn't hurt that we kept mentioning Title IX in our various
letters and presentations.

The main advantage to forming a club at the university, as opposed to in
the community, is that you could get support from the university (such as
money, reduced ice time rates, help from the rec-sports-department staff,
access to various ways of recruiting students, possible access to any
equipment owned by the university, etc.)  It's probably worth it to pursue
recognition as an official university club, and to find out what kinds of
help you can get through your university's sports clubs program.   Go talk
to them - they probably have a handbook or checklist for new clubs.  

Are there other women's or girls' hockey organizations in your town or
close enough for weekend games?  Make contact with them, and let them know
of your fledgling team/club.  (Talk to the Girls/Women's Rep for your
district of USA Hockey - he/she can give you contact names, and possibly
other help as well.)  In my opinion, joining USA Hockey is a good thing
just for the insurance and the magazine, even for groups which might not be
ready to play any games the first season.  Don't think of other
universities as your only potential opponents.  One advantage of playing
against nearby community teams is that this increases your visibility among
teenage girls, and some of them may end up attending your university and
playing for you someday.  (April Stojak, for example, now a goaltender for
OSU in their first varsity season, is actually an Ohio native who first
played against Ohio State's club team when she was about 12.)

Plan to have a program that welcomes beginners as well as experienced
players.  When Ohio State first won the club-teams championship, more than
half the team members on that roster had never played organized hockey
before joining the OSU club. 

If there are no female hockey organizations in your area at all, then you
might find it easier to start by forming a club without a formal connection
to the university at first, so you can recruit women and teenage girls from
the community as well.  

Hockey is maybe harder to get going "from scratch" than some other sports,
because of the three obstacles of:  equipment cost, ice time cost, and ice
time availability.  I could write another essay on creative solutions to
each of these problems but I'll try to be brief.  Find out whether your
university or any local arena has any equipment you could borrow or rent.
(Some arenas have skates.  Some intramural programs own helmets and other
equipment.)  If the only arenas in town are commercially owned, find out
their rental fees (especially whether it's any cheaper during the day,
after midnight, or during the summer), and find out how to apply for ice
rental or get on the waiting list.  If there is an arena owned by your
university or by any other public or semi-public body, find out how ice
time is distributed there, how you can request ice time, and how you can
apply for a subsidised rate.  

Well, that may be more than you wanted ... Starting a female hockey club is
a lot of work, but it can also be enormously rewarding.  Have fun!

Louise

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:06:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Susanica Tam 
Subject: the Zambonis

Hi,
does anyone know where i can get a copy of a Zambonis
CD? Preferably not online, since i don't have a credit
card.
thanks,
Susan

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:27:56 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: the Zambonis

In a message dated 10/28/99 10:00:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
email@hidden writes:

<< does anyone know where i can get a copy of a Zambonis
 CD? Preferably not online, since i don't have a credit
 card. >>

I believe the "Hot Off The Ice" catalog sells them- you could order with a 
check or money order.  Or e-mail the Zambonis from their website & ask,  
www.thezambonis.com/ 

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:23:48 -0600
From: "Danielle Dufour" 
Subject: Fw: CHA Release/ French release to follow

>  CANADIAN HOCKEY ASSOCIATION CANADIENNE DE HOCKEY
>
>                         NEWS RELEASE / COMMUNIQUE
>
>October 29, 1999
>NR095.99
>
>PAT QUINN NAMED HONOURARY HEAD COACH OF THE CANADIAN HOCKEY ASSOCIATIONâS
>PLAY RIGHT PROGRAM
>
>TORONTO, ON ö The Canadian Hockey Association, in cooperation with Procter
&
>Gamble, announced Friday that Pat Quinn, Head Coach and General Manager of
>the Toronto Maple Leafs will be the Honourary Head Coach of the CHAâs Play
>Right  Program.
>
>On the heels of the recommendations from the Molson Open Ice hockey summit
>held this past summer, the Canadian Hockey Association and Procter & Gamble
>teamed up to introduce the PLAY RIGHT Program, a grass roots initiative
>focusing on helping children play at their best by assisting coaching
>development through a strong communication network and the tools to educate
>children at all levels of the game.
>
>Quinn will provide support and encouragement to the minor hockey system in
>Canada  by his endorsement of the Play Right Program.  Quinn and the CHA
>both have the same goals for the Play Right Program :  to promote, through
>the an educational program for minor hockey coaches in Canada, that
positive
>attitude, skill development, nutrition and conditioning are key components
>which allow children to play at their best.
>
>ãThe development of hockey players begins with the education of minor
hockey
>coaches, and to ensure they run practices that are fun and focused on skill
>development,ä said Quinn. ãThe Play Right Program gives coaches tools to
>improve their knowledge of the game and ways to ensure that the game is fun
>for kids involved in minor hockey.ä
>
>The PLAY RIGHT Program provides coaches with support in three main areas :
>
>? The PLAY RIGHT Challenge : rewarding and encouraging coaches to teach
kids
>to Play Right, any CHA registered team that plays a penalty-free game prior
>to December 15, 1999 can enter to win specialty skill development clinics
>for the team, as well as BAUER hockey equipment.  For entry forms call
>1-800-668-5068 or  visit the Canadian Hockey Association web site,
>www.canadianhockey.ca.
>
>? The PLAY RIGHT Canadian Hockey Coaches Club : is an opportunity to help
>minor hockey teach young players to play at their best through an exclusive
>club Îon-lineâ where coaches gather, exchange and share information on the
>development of the game via the Canadian Hockey Association web site at
>www.canadianhockey.ca.  The club includes live chats from CHA National team
>coaches, regular newsletters and discounts on the purchase of coaching
>resources, with a goal of enhancing the development of coaches in Canada.
>
>? The PLAY RIGHT International Coaches Conference (ICC) : is an additional
>opportunity  for coaches to learn how to teach young players to play at
>their best.  Coaches from all levels of play and experience to take part in
>a four day conference with presentations from top coaches from around the
>world.  The ICC will be held in Vancouver at the University of British
>Columbia from July 6-9, 2000.  The theme for this yearâs conference is
>ÎCoaching 2000 ö Today and Beyondâ with the focus on modern coaching
>methods.
>
>The Canadian Hockey Association and PLAY RIGHTâs brands; Pringles Potato
>Chips, Sunny Delight Fruit Drink, Folgers Coffee, Tide Laundry Detergent
and
>Febreze Fabric Refresher, hope the PLAY RIGHT Program provides  the tools
>for young children to do their best  and have fun while playing the game.
>
>PLAY RIGHT believes playing a sport is only the beginning : positive
>attitude, skill development, conditioning and nutrition allows players to
>play at their best.  PLAY RIGHT wants to reinforce the message that kids
>should not only get out and play, they should learn to ÎPLAY RIGHTâ.
>
>For more information on the Canadian Hockey Association, visit the official
>CHA website at www.canadianhockey.ca
>
>AndrŽ Brin
>Manager, Media Relations
>GŽrant, Relations mŽdiatiques
>Canadian Hockey Association
>Association canadienne de hockey
>tel: 1-403-777-3609
>fax: 1-403-777-3635
>http://www.canadianhockey.ca

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