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Women-in-Hockey Digest Thursday, October 21 1999 Volume 01 : Number 520
In this issue:
National Post Story
National Post Story: Team Canada
lots of skate/skating questions
Re: lots of skate/skating questions
Re: lots of skate/skating questions
Re: lots of skate/skating questions
Custom Fitted Goalie Skates
Re: Custom Fitted Goalie Skates
Skates
Team Finland Ready to Step Up?
Re: lots of skate/skating questions
Re: lots of skate/skating questions
Re: National Post Story: Team Canada
Bauers and CCMs
Re: lots of skate/skating questions
resolution to Itech problem
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:40:49 -0400
From: email@hidden
Subject: National Post Story
Dear email@hidden,
Your friend email@hidden thought you might want to read:
Cracking lineup now a big chore on women's team
http://www.nationalpost.com/network.asp?f=991020/106754
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:39:43 -0700
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
Subject: National Post Story: Team Canada
Cracking lineup now a big chore on women's team
http://www.nationalpost.com/network.asp?f=991020/106754
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:09:39 -0600
From: Susannah Brooks
Subject: lots of skate/skating questions
I guess this message could be in the same vein as the "how to pick skates"
thread. I just started playing with a U. of Wisconsin club team after two
years dinking around with a bunch of guys. I love playing but it's amazing
how many little nuances you miss when you start late, so here are my silly
questions:
I have limited time to do free skating outside of practice. Does anyone
know of some good books or teaching aids to use in teaching yourself to
skate better? Most of the hockey books I've seen at Borders, etc. focus on
group drills or rules. I've been playing defense and can skate backwards
semi-passably, but I'm still trying to integrate it in games. I have
trouble pivoting and I can't really stop in less than 15 feet :)
Also, perhaps continuing the thread on finding a good pair of skates, does
anyone have tips on keeping the skates tight? I have an older pair of Bauer
3000s which seem to fit nicely but I end up getting wobbly very quickly.
I've tried keeping my laces nice and waxed and I use a skate tightener,
wrap the laces around my ankles, etc. but I tend to lose the fit within 5
minutes of being on the ice and waste time trying to tighten on the bench.
Finally, does anyone know of exercises to strengthen and stretch the
arch/plantar fascia? I've found that when I haven't skated for a bit, my
arches throb almost immediately. If anyone else has had this problem, do
you find that some sort of insole helps? Wearing thinner socks? (Should I
be wearing thin or thick socks?)
Thanks for any little tips you can pass on.
Susannah
UW C Team #69
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:49:37 -0700
From: Anne Paulson
Subject: Re: lots of skate/skating questions
At 11:09 PM 10/20/99 -0600, Susannah Brooks wrote:
>
>I have limited time to do free skating outside of practice. Does anyone
>know of some good books or teaching aids to use in teaching yourself to
>skate better?
I took a Robby Glantz clinic (www.robbyglantz.com, I think), and
also bought his Secrets of Hockey Speed video. It's really good.
- --Anne Paulson
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:19:53 +0200
From: Nick Heim
Subject: Re: lots of skate/skating questions
At 23:09 20.10.99 -0600, you wrote:
>Also, perhaps continuing the thread on finding a good pair of skates, does
>anyone have tips on keeping the skates tight? I have an older pair of Bauer
>3000s which seem to fit nicely but I end up getting wobbly very quickly.
>I've tried keeping my laces nice and waxed and I use a skate tightener,
>wrap the laces around my ankles, etc. but I tend to lose the fit within 5
>minutes of being on the ice and waste time trying to tighten on the bench.
>
>Finally, does anyone know of exercises to strengthen and stretch the
>arch/plantar fascia? I've found that when I haven't skated for a bit, my
>arches throb almost immediately. If anyone else has had this problem, do
>you find that some sort of insole helps? Wearing thinner socks? (Should I
>be wearing thin or thick socks?)
You are on the wrong track here. The skate should provide your ankle with
some support, thats right. But the most common problem with beginners is,
that they really lean on to the sides of the skates. Thats entirely wrong!
Try to stand straight on the skates, no lateral bending. Try to feel the
blade right in the middle under your foot.
The other wrong thing is the lacing. Don't tighten your laces to much and
don't wrap them around your ankles. That takes the flexibility to bend your
knees and ankles forward. Also it is very likley, that the problems with
your arches come from too tightened laces. About the socks: Don't use two
ore more socks, it gives you a spongy feeling in the skate. Tennis socks
should be ok for most people, they consist of cottom and can take up more
perspiration in contrast to nylon socks, so it doesn't wet the skates too
much.
For strengthen the fascia: skate, skate, skate....
The best book for really learning how to skate is "Powerskating" from Laura
Stamm http://www.laurastamm.com
Nick Heim
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:20:09 -0400
From: Debbie Minden
Subject: Re: lots of skate/skating questions
>
>I have limited time to do free skating outside of practice. Does anyone
>know of some good books or teaching aids to use in teaching yourself to
>skate better? Most of the hockey books I've seen at Borders, etc. focus on
>group drills or rules. I've been playing defense and can skate backwards
>semi-passably, but I'm still trying to integrate it in games. I have
>trouble pivoting and I can't really stop in less than 15 feet :)
If you can afford it, get a figure skating coach to give you a couple of
lessons. A book is great, but nothing like the real thing. If you can get
a coach, or an older, experienced skater (junior to senior level) it
should cost you about $10 - $14 for a 15 minute lesson. My guess is that
in your area it will be cheaper. Then practice, practice, practice. Two
to four 15 minute sessions should give you some good pointers. Just a bit
more than a book. You will also get the info you need about your trouble
with your skates.
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:16:52 -0400
From: email@hidden
Subject: Custom Fitted Goalie Skates
> Can you please add this to the digest:
>
> Does anyone know where I can get custom fitted Goalie Skates?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Naomi
> Ottawa, Ontario CANADA
>
>
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:02:46 -0400
From: "Ron Goldey"
Subject: Re: Custom Fitted Goalie Skates
Try contacting a local CCM or Bauer authorized dealer in your area. Bauer
has a dealer locator on their web site at http://www.bauer.com . So does CCM
at http://www.ccmsports.com .
Tell your dealer you would like to make an appointment with their
manufacturers rep or college rep. Explain to them that you will be happy to
run the sale through their store, but you need custom fitting, so you need
the guy's name and telephone number. If the first dealer you contact won't
give you a name, call another one. Another option is to contact the ice
hockey equipment manager at a university. That person will definitely know
who you need to contact.
Good luck
Ron Goldey
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Subject: Custom Fitted Goalie Skates
>
>
>
> > Can you please add this to the digest:
> >
> > Does anyone know where I can get custom fitted Goalie Skates?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Naomi
> > Ottawa, Ontario CANADA
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:36:09 -0600
From: Shawn
Subject: Skates
>I think another thing you must realize is the break-in period. From what
>I understand, the Bauer's take longer to break-in. Personally, I use
>CCM's.
>
>J.E.
I wear Bauers and never had a problem - no break-in period, never a
blister, etc. I think that, like Jill said, getting someone to fit your
skates properly is the most important thing. Someone knowledgeable will
fit you in several brands and models and you can choose what feel best for
you. It does seem that the teams I play on are mostly made up of Bauer
skates (Men's Rec and Women's teams) but there are quite a few CCM's,
Nike's, and a few other brands out there.
Skates (and helmets) are something to take seriously. If your skates don't
fit, you aren't going to like skating. So be sure and spend the time and
money to get the right fit.
Shawn
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:50:24 -0700
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
Subject: Team Finland Ready to Step Up?
From the Canoe site this morning:
http://www.canoe.ca/HockeyWomen/oct20_hkywom.html
Phil, Victoria, BC
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:01:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: "J.E. Hamer"
Subject: Re: lots of skate/skating questions
> Also, perhaps continuing the thread on finding a good pair of skates, does
> anyone have tips on keeping the skates tight? I have an older pair of Bauer
> 3000s which seem to fit nicely but I end up getting wobbly very quickly.
> I've tried keeping my laces nice and waxed and I use a skate tightener,
> wrap the laces around my ankles, etc. but I tend to lose the fit within 5
> minutes of being on the ice and waste time trying to tighten on the bench.
I would not suggest wrapping the laces around your ankles. I used to do
this until my coach stopped me. I have a really bad problem with weak
ankles after numerous sprain from other activities. I either try to get
my ankles taped or I put tape around the top of the skates. This usually
helps quite a bit.
>
> Wearing thinner socks? (Should I
> be wearing thin or thick socks?)
>
I think it's supposed to be thin socks.
J.E.
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:09:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden (Bronwyn S. Beistle)
Subject: Re: lots of skate/skating questions
According to J.E. Hamer:
> I would not suggest wrapping the laces around your ankles. I used to do
> this until my coach stopped me. I have a really bad problem with weak
> ankles after numerous sprain from other activities. I either try to get
> my ankles taped or I put tape around the top of the skates. This usually
> helps quite a bit.
>
That's good to know, as I have a permanently weakened right ankle (which
hopefully I'll be getting fixed as soon as insurance comes through, but
it'll never be the same as the other one).
Bronwyn
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:28:58 -0400
From: Louise
Subject: Re: National Post Story: Team Canada
At 08:39 PM 20/10/1999 -0700, Phil & Debbie Cottrell wrote:
>Cracking lineup now a big chore on women's team
>
>http://www.nationalpost.com/network.asp?f=991020/106754
Thanks for the heads-up. It was mostly a pretty good article, but I
thought the last paragraph was kind of ironic. (And I'm hoping that this
comes under the "quoting a small portion for purposes of criticism" part of
the fair-use copyright doctrine)
>And if a famous name doesn't make that final cut, if coach Mel
> Davidson is second-guessed for his roster
>moves, then the women's
> game will have really arrived.
Maybe the women's game will have *really* arrived when hockey reporters
remember (or check first!) that Mel Davidson's full name is Melody, and
write about *her* roster choices.
Louise
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:28:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: LM
Subject: Bauers and CCMs
Someone else posted that they thought CCMs broke in faster than Bauers.
I've observed the exact opposite. Everyone I know who wears Bauers said
they were comfy within a few skates. But those who I have seen purchase
CCMs in the last year or two have had a lot of trouble. A friend who
bouhgt a new pair over a year ago is still complaining. Another friend
ended up returning them.
In any event, I agree with what another poster said. Walk around the
store in the skates for a while and compare the different brands. Some
people swear by CCMs some by Bauer. There are also Eastons, Nike and
Grafs.
Laura
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:34:54 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: lots of skate/skating questions
In a message dated 10/21/99 10:04:36 AM Central Daylight Time,
email@hidden writes:
<< I would not suggest wrapping the laces around your ankles. I used to do
this until my coach stopped me. I have a really bad problem with weak
ankles after numerous sprain from other activities. I either try to get
my ankles taped or I put tape around the top of the skates. This usually
helps quite a bit.
>>
In the past, I have broken my left ankle, and severely sprained my right one.
I, too, felt wobbly and I could not get my skates tight enough.
If you are a skier, you will notice that many ski boots come with velcro
straps on top of the boots - to make them fit tighter around you calf.
Keeping this in mind, I went to a local ski shop, and bought velcro straps,
and used those around my ankles to keep my skates tight. This is more
practical than tape, becuase you can easily adjust them in between shifts, or
while taking a knee during practice.
This may slightly limit the flexitbility in your ankles, thus limiting you
ability to use your edges, but its a fair trade off not to get my ankles
broken.
But, if you are a beginner, you will not be using such sharp angles on your
edges anyway. As I became more experienced, I started to loosen the straps,
until I felt that I did not need them anymore. With practice, you will also
be able to tie your skates tighter, and have less of a need for the velcro
straps. Also, as you skate more, you ankles will get stronger, and also
eliminate the need for the straps.
I used them for jsut less than 2 years. I still carry them in my bag, for
the toimes when I get stressed before a game, and I can;t seem to tie my
skates right.
You should be able to find these straps in any ski shop, or even a shop that
sells rollerblading gear.
Also re: socks - THIN is the way to go. Try the coolmax socks (not cotton)
- - wicks away the sweat, feet stay dry, and don;t get cold as quickly.
Good luck! :-)
Jill
# 77 LI Hurricanes
"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:58:30 -0700
From: "Tanya & Patrick Martin"
Subject: resolution to Itech problem
I just want to thank everyone who helped me with my rust problem with my new
Itech mask. I have come to an understanding with Itech and must say the
customer service in Canada is a tad better than the now defunct US office.
Apparently every mask will have a small unpainted spot where the hook pulls
the mask down the production line. The lesson I have learned is to examine
what you intend to buy carefully.
Thanks again and hope I haven't bored anyone to tears but had to fulfill my
obligation.
Tanya, #35
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