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Women-in-Hockey Digest   Wednesday, October 20 1999   Volume 01 : Number 519



In this issue:

   Women's Hockey Articles
   Re: skates
   Re: the mysteries of hockey movies
   Re: skates
   Re: skates
   Skates
   Re: 2000 IIHF Womens World Hockey Championship 
   Re: skates
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   Re: Hockey movies and novels 
   Re: Hockey movies and novels
   Re: 2000 IIHF Womens World Hockey Championship

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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:55:05 -0700
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell" 
Subject: Women's Hockey Articles

Canoe is doing an excellent job of running stories on women's hockey. Four
more were posted today, concerning pioneer Shirley Cameron, some nastiness
at a NWHL game and women's hockey participation breaking the 50,000 mark in
Canada. You can find them at the link below:

http://www.canoe.ca/HockeyWomen/home.html

Phil, Victoria, BC

Phil and Debbie: ICQ #5997159.

Phil moderates e-mail lists on the Victoria Salsa Hockey Club and British
author Nick Hornby. Check them out at: www.onelist.com

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:05:41 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: skates

In a message dated 10/19/99 4:40:03 PM Central Daylight Time, 
email@hidden writes:

<< 
 Can you tell me how much I should expect to spend?  And what's a good
 mid-level skate to invest in?  Brands, etc.
  >>


Hi Nina -

I'm posting your email to the whole list, becuase I;m sure ther are otehrs 
out there who may be able to help you as well.

The skates are really a personal preference.

Most people will tell you there are 2 brands - Bauer & CCM.  Word is that CCM 
gives you a better fit if your foot is wide, and Bauer gives you a better fit 
if you have a narrow foot.  This is true - I cannot even get my foot into a 
Bauer.

Mkae sure you go to a PRO SHOP to buy your skates (not Kmart or sports 
authority.)   Make sure they know how to fit your skates.  A rule of thumb is 
that if your toes touch the end when you are standing up straight, but do not 
touch the end when you flex your knee and ankle, you are off to a good start. 
 A good skate fitter will make you put your foot all the way forward (with 
the laces undone) and then try to stick a few fingers between the back of 
your heel and the skate.  (I'm not sure how many fingers back there provide 
for a good fit.)  IF it meets this criteria, then you are off to a good 
start.  Tie up the laces  as tight as you will have them when you skate.  
Make sure the skates are wide enough for you.  They should be snug, but not 
tight.    

Wear the skates for a while.  If you hate them immediately, they are not for 
you.  If you have to think about it, they coudl be OK.  Try on several pairs. 
 Try wearing one model on your left foot, and  another one on your right.  
Don;t worry if you are annoying the salesperson  by taking so long - it is 
their job to fit you and if you buy skates that do not fit you properly, you 
will be back to annoy him more than you are annoying him now.

the prices are all over the place.   You can get really cheap one for about 
$100, all the way up to $500.  I would opt for something in the middle, 
budget permitting.  I bought a pair of CCM 752's (no longer made) that went 
for $279.  But, since my foot is so small, I got the jr size, and paid only 
$179.    

The sizes run SMALL.  e.g.  I take a women's  8.5 in sneakers, boys 6 in 
sneakers, and 5.5 in ice skates.  

When you find a pair of skates you like, it usually is nto worth schlepping 
all over town to see if you can find them for less money.  The differenc eof 
$10 or 20  is not worth the time & effort.  See if  you cna get them to throw 
in some freebies instead (a few free sharpenings, or a skate hook, soakers, 
or even laces.)

I am not sure of the women;s skates -  I have never tried them.  Supposedly 
they fit your foot better, but I have not heard if they are as durable as the 
men;s skates.

Good luck!

Jill

# 77 LI Hurricanes
"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:29:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden (Bronwyn S. Beistle)
Subject: Re: the mysteries of hockey movies

According to email@hidden:
> 
> 
> I saw the preview for Mystery Alaska a few months ago while going to the 
> movies with a friend from my team.   I saw the lake, heard the scrape of 
> skates on the ice (I screamed in excitement  - "Holy  its a hockey 
> movie!"  Then we saw the skater, the hockey skates, etc, and my hopes were 
> confirmed.

That was pretty much my reaction too. :-) Except I was with non-hockey
folks, who just assumed their customary "she's nuts but she's our friend,
so let's indulge her" attitude. :-)

I don't play (yet) but I had a great time at this movie (though I agree it
wasn't the peak of cinematic excellence, or anything). You could tell who
in the crowd really followed hockey--there were several moments when most
of the crowd was quiet, and a handful of people were laughing their heads
off! 

Bronwyn

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:49:38 -0400
From: Linda Deno 
Subject: Re: skates

At 01:05 AM 10/20/99 -0400, email@hidden wrote:

>Most people will tell you there are 2 brands - Bauer & CCM.  Word is that CCM
>gives you a better fit if your foot is wide, and Bauer gives you a better fit
>if you have a narrow foot.  This is true - I cannot even get my foot into a
>Bauer.

CCM does actually make a narrow skate as well (something that not all pro 
shop employees are aware of in my experience, but whoever orders the skates 
ought to know about it). So if you find for whatever reason you like CCMs 
but they are a bit too wide for you, ask to try the narrow width skates - 
they're labeled with different letters stamped into the heel of the liner 
than the regular wider skates are (I think it might be E / H, but I'm not 
sure - if anyone is interested I can check on that, since I have a pair of 
the 652 narrows that I am very happy with).

Linda

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:24:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "J.E. Hamer" 
Subject: Re: skates

I think another thing you must realize is the break-in period.  From what
I understand, the Bauer's take longer to break-in.  Personally, I use
CCM's.  I know that most people have been talking about CCM Tacks.  You
might also want to look into CCM Edge's, preferably the Edge 4.3.  As for
getting the higher end models, ie. Bauer 5000 and CCM Tacks 952, these may
or may not be the best.  Most of the pros use the older models, but they
also have extra reinforcement.  Also take into consideration any foot
problems, ie. flat feet, width, etc, when buying skates.

J.E.

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:54:15 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Skates

I didn't include this in my last email to you so here you go.  In response to 
what someone else wrote, CCM's run pretty narrow.  I have an extremely narrow 
foot and have gone through three pairs of Tacks.  I also just think they're 
more comfortable than other skates, but that depends on the model.  I know 
that Bauer makes a pair of skates that are especially cheap.(70-90).  Tacks, 
depending on where you buy them can be purchased for around $150 and up.  The 
best are the 1050's for ice, but you can expect to spend in the upwards of 
$400 for those.  I have the roller hockey version of that skate(970's) and I 
must say they're the most comfortable skates I've ever been on.  Other brands 
you might want to look into are Easton and Mission.  Good Luck

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:15:00 -0400
From: email@hidden (Patti Domingo)
Subject: Re: 2000 IIHF Womens World Hockey Championship 

email@hidden writes:
>SCHEDULE, TICKET INFORMATION AND EVENT LOGO ANNOUNCED FOR 2000 IIHF
>WOMEN'S
>WORLD HOCKEY CHAMPIONSHIP
>
>MISSISSAUGA, ON  The Canadian Hockey Association and the Ontario Women's 
>Hockey Association announced the official game schedule, ticket
>information 
>and the event logo for the 2000 IIHF Women?s World Hockey Championship
>April 
>3-9, 2000.
>
>
This is to bad because it also happens to be the same weekend the USA
Women's/Girl's National Championships are held in Troy MI.  Poor
scheduling, luckily we should know well in advance if we make the
Nationals,because if not I'll be in  Canada.

Patti

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:58:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jenn Nejedlo 
Subject: Re: skates

- --- "J.E. Hamer"  wrote:
> Bauer 5000 and CCM Tacks 952, these may or may not be the best.  

FYI -
Bauer's new model is the 7000. CCM's newest is the Tacks 1052.
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:12:47 -0600
From: "Danielle Dufour" 
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?_CHA_Release_3_Nations_Cup_details/Communiqu=E9_ACH_D=E9ta?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ils_Coupe_des_trois_nations?=

>  CANADIAN HOCKEY ASSOCIATION CANADIENNE DE HOCKEY
>
>                             NEWS RELEASE / COMMUNIQUE
>
>October 20, 1999
>NR093.99
>
>MONTREAL AND SHERBROOKE, QUEBEC TO HOST 1999 3 NATIONS CUP FROM NOVEMBER 28
>TO DECEMBER 5, 1999
>
>MONTREAL, QC ö Montreal, QC and Sherbrooke, QC will host the 1999 3 Nations
>Cup from November 28 - December 5, 1999, the Canadian Hockey Association
>announced on Wednesday.
>
>The 3 Nations Cup will bring together the three medal-winning nations from
>the 1999 Womenâs World Hockey Championship in Espoo, Finland: Canada, USA
>and Finland. Canada has won gold at two previous 3 Nations Cup tournaments,
>in 1996 and in 1998. The USA won gold in 1997, while Canada took the silver
>medal.
>
>ãWe are excited about the 3 Nations Cup taking place in Quebec and are
>confident that the organizers will make this the best ever,ä said Bob
>Nicholson, President of the Canadian Hockey Association. ãFans in Quebec
>have been supporters of womenâs hockey in the past, such as during the
>National Teamâs tour with Team Finland last winter.ä
>
>The eventâs organizers, Montreal Sport International, unveiled the official
>schedule. The tournament begins on Sunday, November 28, 1999 in Sherbrooke
>with a rematch of last yearâs 3 Nations and Womenâs World Hockey
>Championship Final: Canada vs. USA. The final game will take place on
>Sunday, December 5, 1999 at 2 p.m. EST.
>
>ãIt will be a fantastic opportunity for hockey fans in Quebec and from
>nearby to see womenâs hockey at itâs finest,ä said Marc Campagna, president
>and chief executive for Les Internationaux de sports de MontrŽal.
>
>Tickets go on sale on Friday, October 22, 1999 with RŽseau Admission at
>514-790-1245 or 1-800-361-4595. Tickets cost $5 (Senior citizens, Students
>with cards, Children 12 and under) and $7 (adults) for all games other than
>the final. Tickets for the final will be $7 and $9. All games will be
>general admission.
>
>For further information on the Canadaâs National Womenâs Team and the
>Canadian Hockey Association, visit the CHAâs official website at
>www.canadianhockey.ca
>
>AndrŽ Brin
>Manager, Communications
>GŽrant, Communications
>Canadian Hockey Association
>Association canadienne de hockey
>tel: 1-403-777-3609
>fax: 1-403-777-3635
>http://www.canadianhockey.ca
>
>Daniel Courtois
>Communications & Marketing
>Montreal Sport International
>1-514-872-1997
>email@hidden
>
>1999 THREE NATIONS CUP OFFICIAL SCHEDULE
>
># DATE DAY & DATE        HOME @ VISITOR TIME
>PALAIS DES SPORTS SHERBROOKE
>1 28-11-99 dim 28 nov Sun Nov 28 Canada @ ƒtats-Unis / USA 16 h 00
>2 29-11-99 lun 29 nov Mon Nov 29 ƒtats-Unis / USA @ Finlande / Finland 19 H
>30
>3 01-12-99 mer 1 dec Wed Dec 1 Finlande / Finland @ Canada 19 h 30
>
>ARƒNA MAURICE-RICHARD MONTRƒAL
>4 02-12-99 jeu 2 dec Thu Dec 2 ƒtats-Unis / USA @ Canada 19 H 30
>5 03-12-99 ven 3 dec Fri Dec 3 Finlande / Finland @ ƒtats-Unis / USA 19 H
30
>6 04-12-99 sam 4 dec Sat Dec 4 Canada @ Finlande / Finland 19 H 30
>7 05-12-99 dim 5 dec Sun Dec 5 1ire / first place @  2ime / 2nd place 14
H
>00
>
>***************************************************************************
*
>***
>***************************************************************************
*
>***
>
>  CANADIAN HOCKEY ASSOCIATION CANADIENNE DE HOCKEY
>
>                         NEWS RELEASE / COMMUNIQUE
>le 20 octobre 1999
>NR093f.99
>
>MONTRƒAL ET SHERBROOKE ACCEUILLERONT LA COUPE DES TROIS NATIONS  DU 28
>NOVEMBRE AU 5 DƒCEMBRE, 1999
>
>MONTRƒAL (QUƒBEC) ö Les villes de MontrŽal et Sherbrooke au QuŽbec
serviront
>dâh™tes pour la Coupe des trois nations 1999 qui se dŽroulera du 28
novembre
>au 5 dŽcembre prochain, a annoncŽ aujourdâhui lâAssociation canadienne de
>hockey.
>
>La Coupe des trois nations rassemblera les trois pays mŽdaillŽs du
>Championnat du monde de hockey fŽminin  de 1999 ˆ Espoo, en Finlande: le
>Canada, les ƒtats-Unis et la Finlande. Le Canada a remportŽ la mŽdaille dâ
or
>ˆ deux occasions ˆ la Coupe des trois nations, en 1996 et en 1998. Les
>Etats-Unis, quand ˆ eux, ont pris la mŽdaille dâor en 1997, tandis que le
>Canada sâest contentŽ dâune mŽdaille dâargent.
>
>ãNous sommes trs contents de tenir la Coupe des trois nations au QuŽbec et
>nous sommes confiants que les organisateurs feront en sorte que ce soit la
>meilleure ˆ date,ä a dit Bob Nicholson, prŽsident de lâAssociation canadien
>de hockey. ãLes amateurs du QuŽbec ont ŽtŽ de fidles partisans du hockey
>fŽminin dans le passŽ, tel que lâhiver dernier lors de la tournŽe de lâ
>ƒquipe nationale canadienne et de lâƒquipe finlandaise.ä
>
>Les Internationaux du sport de MontrŽal, promoteurs du tournoi, ont dŽvoilŽ
>le calendrier officiel. Le tournoi sera lancŽ le dimanche, 28 novembre 1999
>ˆ Sherbrooke avec une reprise de la finale des Jeux olympiques de Nagano et
>du Championnat du monde 1999 : Canada / ƒtats-Unis. La finale aura lieu ˆ
>MontrŽal ˆ lâarŽna Maurice-Richard dimanche, le 5 dŽcembre 1999 ˆ 14 h 00,
>heure de lâEst.
>
>ãCe sera une occasion en or pour les amateurs de hockey du QuŽbec et des
>environs de voir du hockey fŽminin ˆ son meilleur,ä a notŽ Marc Campagna ,
>prŽsident et chef de la direction des Internationaux du sport de MontrŽal.
>
>Les billets seront en vente ds vendredi, 22 octobre, 1999 sur le  RŽseau
>Admission au 514-790-1245 et au 1 800 361-4595. Les billets cožteront $5
>(åge dâor, Žtudiant(e)s avec cartes, enfants de 12 ans et moins) et $7
>(adultes) pour toutes les parties ˆ lâexception de la finale. Les billets
>pour la finale seront disponibles au cožt de  $7 et $9. Toutes les parties
>seront en admission gŽnŽrale.
>
>Pour plus dâinformation sur lâƒquipe nationale fŽminine du Canada et sur lâ
>Association canadienne de hockey, visitez le site Web officiel de lâACH au
>www.canadianhockey.ca
>
>AndrŽ Brin
>Manager, Communications
>GŽrant, Communications
>Canadian Hockey Association
>Association canadienne de hockey
>tel: 1-403-777-3609
>fax: 1-403-777-3635
>http://www.canadianhockey.ca
>
>Daniel Courtois
>Communications & Marketing
>Internationaux de sport de MontrŽal
>1-514-872-1997
>email@hidden
>
>
>CALENDRIER OFFICIEL DE LA COUPE DES TROIS NATIONS 1999
># DATE JOUR ET DATE   LOCAL@ VISITEUR  HEURE
>PALAIS DES SPORTS SHERBROOKE
>1 28-11-99 dim 28 nov Sun Nov 28 Canada @ ƒtats-Unis / USA 16 h 00
>2 29-11-99 lun 29 nov Mon Nov 29 ƒtats-Unis / USA @ Finlande / Finland 19 H
>30
>3 01-12-99 mer 1 dec Wed Dec 1 Finlande / Finland @ Canada 19 h 30
>
>ARƒNA MAURICE-RICHARD MONTRƒAL
>4 02-12-99 jeu 2 dec Thu Dec 2 ƒtats-Unis / USA @ Canada 19 H 30
>5 03-12-99 ven 3 dec Fri Dec 3 Finlande / Finland @ ƒtats-Unis / USA 19 H
30
>6 04-12-99 sam 4 dec Sat Dec 4 Canada @ Finlande / Finland 19 H 30
>7 05-12-99 dim 5 dec Sun Dec 5 1ire / first place @  2ime / 2nd place 14
H
>00
>

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:08:52 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Hockey movies and novels 

In a message dated 10/19/99 5:42:20 PM !!!First Boot!!!, email@hidden 
writes:

<< Can any of you recommend any other fiction about hockey? >>
Well, i can tell you a bunch of books not to read unless you're wanting 
something totally misleading with a hockey base and that's this series about 
the WHL (Western Hockey League)  I dont remember the name of the series, but 
it was something to do with Lightning.  The books are about WHL players 
(16-20 year olds here) with one getting involved with the mafia and somehow 
beating it, another where a prespective buyer of a team has the team's 
equitment sabitadged so they cant play well so they'll be a cheeper team to 
buy... all a buncha garbage.
but a book i'd really recomend about hockey is "from Across the Red Line: an 
American Hockey Player in Russia"  (at least im pretty sure thats the name).  
it's by Tod Hartije (sp?) and it's a good story about his experiances in the 
Russian hockey system.
Jessie

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:46:20 -0400
From: Pia Cseri-Briones 
Subject: Re: Hockey movies and novels

>Subject: Re: Hockey movies and novels

How about the Ken Dryden/CBC series from the late 80's "Home Game". Yeah
Dryden can be a bit dry, but I enjoyed it, and the series did cover all
kinds of different people playing hockey in Canada. Or for that matter his
book about being with the Canadiens ("The Game") is a pretty good read.

I also recently got the chance to see the videos on the 1972 Canada/Russia
Summitt Series. Four part series: first 2 tapes are a documentary on the
series, and the last 2 tapes are game 8 in its entirety. Classic cold war
Soviets vs. North America. Lots of fun and fairly riveting drama.

cheers!
Pia

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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NŽcora : Cine_Arte
e-mail: email@hidden
http://www.servtech.com/~pcb/
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:45:34 -0400
From: iggy 
Subject: Re: 2000 IIHF Womens World Hockey Championship

  [snip]
This is to bad because it also happens to be the same weekend the USA
Women's/Girl's National Championships are held in Troy MI. 
  [end snip]

what what what?!? there's a big ol' tournament right around the corner
from me? can anyone send me the details on this?

also, i've just started out playing inline hockey and once a week is 
just not enough. i've been considering trying ice hockey also. is this
a difficult transition? and i know there are several people on this 
list who are in the know about detroit area hockey leagues. can anyone
recommend one that would have a league that would be appropriate for
someone who knows the basics of hockey, but hasn't skated on ice since
she was a wee little girl? 
any info would be appreciated. thanks!

peace,
amy

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