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Women-in-Hockey Digest Tuesday, October 19 1999 Volume 01 : Number 518
In this issue:
Re: Hockey movies and novels
Re: Hockey movies and novels
Re: fighting in hockey
the mysteries of hockey movies
Re: the mysteries of hockey movies
RE: Hockey movies and novels
Novice Questions...
Re: Novice Questions...
RE: hockey in finction
RE: hockey in finction
Re: Hockey movies and novels
2000 IIHF Womens World Hockey Championship
Re: fighting in hockey
Re: the mysteries of hockey movies
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:13:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "J.E. Hamer"
Subject: Re: Hockey movies and novels
> There are some funny parody
> bits about hockey (although very fight-centric) in the movie Strange Brew.
>
I was wondering if anybody was going to bring up this movie. The hockey
turned figure skater movie is "Cutting Edge". The classic line from the
movie is "Toe Pick!"
J.E.
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:38:00 -0700
From: Anne Paulson
Subject: Re: Hockey movies and novels
At 01:38 PM 10/19/99 -0400, Louise wrote:
>Can any of you recommend any other fiction about hockey?
There are a couple of picture books called
_The Moccasin Goalie_ and _The Final Game_, about
a little boy, Danny, and his two friends Petou
and Anita, who join the town team. Danny has a club
foot and can't wear skates, but plays goal in his
moccasins (as did the author in his youth). In _The Final
Game_, we find our heroes being ignored by the bigger boys on the
team. Just before the final playoff game, Danny's big
brother comes home on injured reserve from the Maple
Leafs. He gives the team the secret advice that lets Anita
and Petou win the game. Nice book. Sweet illustrations.
- --Anne Paulson
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:20:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden (Bronwyn S. Beistle)
Subject: Re: fighting in hockey
I love both Mystery, Alaska (despite its flaws) and Slapshot. Go figure.
I guess the things I object to most in pro hockey aren't fighting, or the
lack of fighting, but dirty stick-work (which seems to lead to the
nastiest injuries) and too much obstruction (which leads to really boring
games).
Anyway, I always thought that Slapshot was satirizing (lovingly) the goon
tactics in the picture. I didn't think I was supposed to believe that the
Hansons play hockey the right way--they were there to be laughed at.
Seemed like a movie by somebody who was fond of pro hockey and pro hockey
players, but saw their flaws (or at least the flaws they often have)
pretty clearly--just IMO.
Bronwyn Beistle
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:56:08 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: the mysteries of hockey movies
I totally agree that Slapshot was satirizing the pro-hockey scene, but
certainly didn't show much actual hockey playing, which is what I was looking
for. I know it has it's beloved place in the hearts of the hockey guys I
know, and yes it was quite funny in places. My favorite scene in Mystery is
when the guy at the beginning is skating on the frozen river and you just
hear the sound of his skates and breathing in that magnificent wilderness.
It was even better in the previews when it didn't have the titles
superimposed over the scene. One can practically smell the ice and feel the
cold. Ahhh. Wait, do I have time to go catch a matinee of it right now....
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:18:48 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: the mysteries of hockey movies
There's also a hockey movie called "Rookies" which I've seen on the
Odyssey Channel a couple time. It's been awhile since I've seen it, and I get
all the hockey movies kind of mixed up anyways, but I don't think theres much
fighting in it. Since the Odyssey Channel is mainly a
religious/spiritual/family orientated channel (for those of you who've never
heard of it) they wouldn't show something with a lot of fighting or sex. Of
course, they could've cut those parts out. But from what I remember, its a
good movie.
Also, Disney has a somewhat new movie, that was on the Disney Channel
called "Genius." About a 14 year old kid who loves hockey and goes to
college. And although the main focus of the movie is about this kid trying to
seperate a gravitron, theres still some hockey, and fighting.
And, another Disney movie, that was just on a couple of Sundays ago was
"H-E Double Hockey Sticks" About the devil using his powers to sell the
Stanley Cup to a player for his soul. I watched parts of it, so I don't
really know if there was much hockey in it.
Jennie
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:54:58 -0400
From: "Lucy Vincent"
Subject: RE: Hockey movies and novels
> Amazons: An intimate memoir by the first woman ever to play
> in the NHL, Cleo Birdwell - somewhat funny
I read Amazons before I was a hockey player or a fan, and I thought it was
nonfiction most of the way through it, because that's where the library had
shelved it. (I let them know it's fiction.) Note that when the description
says intimate, that's an understatement. If you don't want to know about
this character's sex life, don't read this book.
For those of you who haven't seen Mystery, Alaska, yet, you should do so. It
makes a good date movie for both gals and guys, and even for my
non-hockey-fan husband.
One more note: The Hershey Bears (south central Pennsylvania, USA AHL team)
frequently has a youth team skate for 5 minutes after the first period, and
this past Saturday they had an adult team as guests for the first time - and
they selected a women's team to do it! The attendance was 5,039 and it was
very exciting, especially just before we went out on the ice. Once we were
out there, we didn't even notice all those people: just the puck. Bear #21,
Steffon Walby, visited us afterwards and talked & signed stuff for us - he
was very nice, and so was his Calder Cup ring from 1997 with the Bears.
Lucy
#17, Better Half
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:55:27 -0700
From: email@hidden (Nina)
Subject: Novice Questions...
Hello,
I tried accessing the FAQ and archives for this list but unfortunately it's
been taken down for the time being. Argh. So I know these questions have
probably been asked a bunch of times, but here goes nothin' I apologize in
advance!
I am *brand spanking new.* Meaning, I've been thinking about playing
hockey for a bit, but never done anything about it. I'm 27 years old, and
haven't been on skates in, well, 20 years. I live in the LA area and I've
already investigated a few places for skating clinics and the like, so I
can figure out if I can actually *skate* much less play hockey. Everyone's
told me I'm nuts, but I need the voices in my head to stop telling me to
play hockey. So playing hockey is the only option I have right now.
However, my questions is basically summed up to this: how should I approach
learning how to play? I know I'll at the very least have to invest in a
pair of skates initially, so how much should that cost? Any ideas on used
equipment? When should I look into getting my own equipment (pads, stick,
etc.)? And where's a good place to look for all of this (on the net,
sporting goods stores you like, etc.)
Again, I apologize for the complete and utter cluelessness of this missive.
Please feel free to email me privately if you'd like to keep the list
traffic down. I appreciate any ideas/help encouragement you have to offer.
Thanks,
Nina Bargiel
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:40:25 -0400
From: Val Schmitt
Subject: Re: Novice Questions...
Hi Nina,
I'll let everyone else answer the technical LA-related questions
(where to buy gear, what programs to look into, etc.) BUT, don't
give up! You're the same age I was when I started playing (and
given experiences on this list, we're average to young to be
starting as women!). You owe it to yourself to at least try it for
a year or two.
I was a hockey fan all of my life and before (there are tons of
stories in my family: the time I cried for 90 minutes straight
when I was 6 weeks old, because the Rangers scored while my dad
was holding me and he jumped up and screamed; or how they would
carry me into Islander games till I was 6 or so, because then it
was free, since I was a "baby"; or the time they waited till the
period ended in the playoff game on TV before taking me to the
hospital for stitches...), but I had never played hockey because,
you guessed it, I was a girl! When my company started a hockey
team, my boss practically insisted that I play, since he knew how
nuts about it I am (it's probably one of the reasons I was hired -
"hockey fanatic" is a great thing to add to one's resume!). And am
I glad he insisted! I'll never be an olympian, or even play one on
TV, but there's nothing to compare to actually playing and
realizing how difficult and wonderful and frustrating and
exhilirating it is.
Definitely find a beginners program or league and expect to be
frustrated for a while - like you, I hadn't skated in years (and
even when I had, it was uncomfortably on figure skates) but that's
part of being a beginner. Find open ice time - not stick time,
just skating - and go practice skating. You'll find it gets easier
every time you're out there, and remember, when you're playing
hockey, you have padding on! I found it made a world of difference
to know that I wouldn't get hurt if I fell down - it might take me
a while to get back up, but I would be OK!
Oh, and everyone will tell you, and they're right, splurge for a
*new* helmet that *fits*. The rest of the gear can be used, but
don't play games with your brain.
So don't listen to the naysayers telling you you're nuts - just go
out and do it! You won't regret it. (and heck, if you do, at least
you'll know you tried.)
Good luck!
- -Val
Nina Bargiel wrote:
>
> I am *brand spanking new.* Meaning, I've been thinking about playing
> hockey for a bit, but never done anything about it. I'm 27 years old, and
> haven't been on skates in, well, 20 years. I live in the LA area and I've
> already investigated a few places for skating clinics and the like, so I
> can figure out if I can actually *skate* much less play hockey. Everyone's
> told me I'm nuts, but I need the voices in my head to stop telling me to
> play hockey. So playing hockey is the only option I have right now.
>
> However, my questions is basically summed up to this: how should I approach
> learning how to play? I know I'll at the very least have to invest in a
> pair of skates initially, so how much should that cost? Any ideas on used
> equipment? When should I look into getting my own equipment (pads, stick,
> etc.)? And where's a good place to look for all of this (on the net,
> sporting goods stores you like, etc.)
>
- --
Val Schmitt ** email@hidden Life is change.
http://people.ne.mediaone.net/vschmitt Growth is optional.
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:39:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jennifer Marie Sokol
Subject: RE: hockey in finction
Has anyone else out there seen the movie Hockey Night
It stars Megan Follows as a teen who moves to a town that
doesn't have a girl's team. She tries out for the boy's
team. There is a good mix of hockey and teen love story.
Drawbacks....drunk scene and a "come to the rescue" fight.
Fairly old movie, lot's of male chauvenist remarks, but she
makes them eat their words in the end!!
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:51:08 -0400
From: Louise
Subject: RE: hockey in finction
At 05:39 PM 19/10/1999 -0400, Jennifer Marie Sokol wrote:
>Has anyone else out there seen the movie Hockey Night
>It stars Megan Follows as a teen who moves to a town that
>doesn't have a girl's team. She tries out for the boy's
>team. There is a good mix of hockey and teen love story.
>Drawbacks....drunk scene and a "come to the rescue" fight.
>Fairly old movie, lot's of male chauvenist remarks, but she
>makes them eat their words in the end!!
That's right! I think this was a made-for-TV movie, probably on the CBC.
Megan Followes was in her early teens when the movie was made (around the
same era as the first Anne of Green Gables movie.) Wasn't she a goalie in
the story? This movie may be rather loosely based on a true story about a
goalie in North Bay (whose name I forget).
Louise
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:50:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Hockey movies and novels
OK There was a really awesome movie on CBC over the summer about Gordie Howe and the old Red Wing bunch. It was about how the leage was managed with the original six or something. I didn't get to see the end or the begining so i have no clue what it was called... sorry
- -J
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:59:56 -0400
From: KL Sports
Subject: 2000 IIHF Womens World Hockey Championship
SCHEDULE, TICKET INFORMATION AND EVENT LOGO ANNOUNCED FOR 2000 IIHF WOMEN'S
WORLD HOCKEY CHAMPIONSHIP
MISSISSAUGA, ON The Canadian Hockey Association and the Ontario Women's
Hockey Association announced the official game schedule, ticket information
and the event logo for the 2000 IIHF Women?s World Hockey Championship April
3-9, 2000.
The Championship organizers released the final 20 game schedule for the 2000
IIHF Women's World Hockey Championship which includes 13 games in
Mississauga at the Hershey Centre, six games at satellite venues all within
Ontario in Barrie, Kitchener, London, Niagara Falls, Oshawa, Peterborough
and one game at Iceland in Mississauga. Canada will play all of their games
at the Hershey Centre except their second game versus China, which will be
in Kitchener.
This marks the third time Canada has hosted the Women's World Championship.
The OWHA hosted the first World Championship in Ottawa in 1990 and partnered
with the City of Kitchener to host the Championship in 1997. The 2000 IIHF
Women?s World Hockey Championship will bring together a total of eight
teams: Canada, Sweden, China and Japan in Pool A; the United States,
Finland, Russia and Germany in Pool B.
"This will be a great event and will provide hockey fans in Ontario and from
across Canada with the very best in women's hockey," said Bob Nicholson,
President of the Canadian Hockey Association.
?It is an international honour to have the Women?s World Hockey Championship
at the Hershey Centre in Canada?s sixth largest City, Mississauga,? said
Mayor Hazel McCallion, City of Mississauga. ?It?s been a pleasure to work
with the Ontario Women?s Hockey Association who have been pioneers in women?
s hockey. We look forward to presenting, to the world, the best world
championship ever.?
The championship begins at the Hershey Centre in Mississauga on April 3,
2000 at 4:00 pm EST with Russia facing the bronze medal winners of the 1999
WWHC from Finland. Team Canada opens it?s title defence on April 3, 2000 at
7:30 pm EST at the Hershey Centre against Japan. The gold medal game will
close out the Championship on April 9, 2000 at 7:30 pm at the Hershey
Centre.
Team Canada has won gold at all five Women?s World Hockey Championships in
1990, 1992 (Tampere, Finland), 1994 (Lake Placid, USA), 1997 and last year
in Espoo, Finland, compiling a 25 ? 0 ? 1 record.
?We are pleased to be hosting this championship in the city of Mississauga,
the home of Mayor Hazel McCallion, well known throughout the world as the
driving force behind the development of the game,? said Fran Rider,
Chairperson of the Organizing Committee. ?This event will focus on
excellence of the players and on the positive values of female hockey.?
The Organizing Committee launched ticket information, highlighting a package
that includes all 13 games at Missisauga?s Hershey Centre for $139.50 and a
VIP Package for $179.50 which includes club seating and a commemorative
event souvenir. The regular $139.50 package has a minimum $190 value
compared to single ticket prices. Packages for the Hershey Centre are
available at all Ontario Ticketmaster outlets and by calling 416-872-5000.
Tickets for satellite venues include individual game prices ranging from
$8.00 in Niagara Falls and Peterborough, $10.00 and $15.00 in Kitchener and
$10.00 at all other venues. Prices do not include applicable taxes and
service charges. Tickets for satellite locations can be purchased by calling
Barrie 705-737-6850; Kitchener 519-745-0303 or 1-800-265-6368; London
519-661-3629; Niagara Falls 905-358-3808; Oshawa 905-728-5162; Peterborough
705-743-3561 and Iceland, Mississauga 905-507-7777. The ticket packages for
the Mississauga games and the single game tickets for the satellite sites
will go on sale Tuesday, October 26, 1999.
TSN/RDS, the official broadcaster of the Canadian Hockey Association, will
broadcast four games live.
For further information on the Canada?s National Women?s Team, the 2000 IIHF
Women?s World Hockey Championship and the Canadian Hockey Association, visit
the official website at www.canadianhockey.ca,
email the event at
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at 905-282-9711.
For more information:
Fran Rider
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2000 IIHF Womens World Hockey Championship
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Joanne Gray
Event manager
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1-403-777-3620
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:06:52 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: fighting in hockey
I remember a movie called Hockey Night (I think). It had two themes one was a
boy living up to his potential and the other was a girl playing goalie. The
movie was made in the 80's. The line that the coach had the kids say before
the game was:
Coach:"Where's the game?"
Team: "Up here.(pointing to their heads)"
coach: Who are we?
Team: "Number 1"
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:33:37 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: the mysteries of hockey movies
I saw the preview for Mystery Alaska a few months ago while going to the
movies with a friend from my team. I saw the lake, heard the scrape of
skates on the ice (I screamed in excitement - "Holy its a hockey
movie!" Then we saw the skater, the hockey skates, etc, and my hopes were
confirmed.
We were so excited about this movie. Of course, we went to see it together a
little while ago. It was entertaining, although I think half the fun of it
was because we play hockey.
I would not consider this movie to be a great work of cinematic art, but it
was entertaining nonetheless. Anyone who plays hockey should see it.
In the movie, the "walkway" to teh ice from the locker room is awesome! More
rinks should have this system! :-)
I would love to get my mitts on one of those "M" jerseys - has anyone seen
these for sale anywhere?
Another hockey movie I rememebr seeing was "Miracle on Ice." (about the
1980 men;s olympic hockey team & their quest for the Gold.) I have vague
recollection of the movie, and I would like to see it again. Does anyone
know of video chains in NYC (or Chicago) that would have this movie?
Jill
# 77 LI Hurricanes
"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."
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