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Women-in-Hockey Digest Saturday, October 16 1999 Volume 01 : Number 514
In this issue:
Re: Girls in Boy's Locker Rooms
Re: Girls in Boy's Locker Rooms
Re: Girls in Boy's Locker Rooms
Re: mouth guard question
The Stench
Girls changing with boys
yay!
Re: The Stench
Re: yay!
MINNESOTA WOMEN'S HOCKEY
Re: mouth guard question
Re: The Stench
Sad warning for a new season
Senior Rec Tournament: Victoria, BC
washing gear
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 19:31:52 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Girls in Boy's Locker Rooms
Hi I'm 16 and have been playing on a boys' team since I was 6. I have always
changed with them until last year. Last year I believe USA hockey made a rule
that girls' can not change with boys' in the locker room. Girls' can only be
in the locker room while the door is open or if another female is present. At
least this is how they explained it to me.My coaches even asked if I could
change with the team if my parents said it was ok and they said no. I don't
know if this applies to this situation, but I hope this does.
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:16:16 -0400
From: Debbie Minden
Subject: Re: Girls in Boy's Locker Rooms
Chuck,
Good post. If the kids work it out themselves, then they will get
something that they are comfortable with. I think you may be right about
the parents having the problem. When someone noticed that my daughter had
matured a little, one of the mothers went balistic. She was ignored, and
everything settled down.
One of my other daughters played hockey and was too shy to change with the
boys. She lasted half a season. The coach was unhappy because whe showed
some talent. I think being left in the girls' locker room and out of the
loop was too much for her and she never felt that she belonged.
Just a thought. Could you imagine hanky panky between kids who smelled as
bad as 15 year old hockey players?
Debbie
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 21:50:54 -0400
From: Debbie Minden
Subject: Re: Girls in Boy's Locker Rooms
Could someone please site the USA Hockey rule about boys and girls changing
together? One of the men on another list has been very good about sending
all the rule changes of USA Hockey, and this is not one of them
Debbie Minden
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:36:20 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: mouth guard question
In a message dated 10/15/99 7:11:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
email@hidden writes:
<< To all the women who had their dentist make a mouth guard -
I have something made for me called a "night guard". Are they the same? Is
your mouth guard
worn on the upper teeth or the lower teeth, or is it "in the middle" like
the boil and bite stuff? I'd like to know if I can use my existing thing as
a mouth guard...
-LK in Virginia >>
Best bet - ask your dentist. My teeth (and my brain) are worth a lot more to
me than the $200 custom made mouth guard, and certainly worth a lot more than
the $25 Shock Doc.
In other words, it is worthwhile to spend the money to get the RIGHT
equipment as opposed to not spending the money and risking injury and/or
disfigurement. This is true regarding other equipment as well - e.g. HELMETS.
Jill
# 77 LI Hurricanes
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:56:39 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: The Stench
In a message dated 10/15/99 9:48:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
email@hidden writes:
<< Just a thought. Could you imagine hanky panky between kids who smelled as
bad as 15 year old hockey players? >>
I don't get it............... If gear is properly cared for (AIRED OUT
IMMEDIATELY upon returning home, and even a schpritz of Febreeze) it will not
smell all that much.
I have a wet gear locker and my gear gets unpacked, febreezed, and hung to
dry EVERY TIME I play, regardless of how tired and/or lazy I am when I get
home. When this is not possible, extra Febreeze helps a lot.
Also - if a clean T-shirt and shorts are worn under the gear everytime, this
will reduce the sweat that gets on the gear, and slow down the gear
fermentation process. (I wear a cool-max T shirt and compression shorts -
not bulky - I don't even know it's there. Plus, the CoolMax dries very
quickly - so the gear does not have as much of a chance to get as sweaty.)
Some gear is beyond hope, but if you start caring for your gear when it is
new, and wash it about every 6 months, the side effects will be minimal.
Not that my stuff isn't a tad pungent at times, but it certainly does not
announce my presence.
Jill
"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:24:34 -0700
From: Don Howell
Subject: Girls changing with boys
>Let the kids work it out. They are capable.
>
>- - Chuck Collins
I agree with Chuck on this one. My daughters played on boy's team right
through Midget. Each year they would ask the coach to ask the boy's what
they wanted to do about the dressing room situation. Every year the boy's
wanted them part of that situation too. The pregame banter is important.
Everyone wore shorts and it was never a problem. It helps when the girls
have played with the boy's for a number of years and are accepted as part
of the team. Chuck is right this is very common in California and I am
aware of many girls who play on boy's teams and I have never heard of a
problem. The kids work it out without much trouble. Girl's try very hard to
be part of the team. In the most cases they don't want special treatment
and the boy's accept and respect them. I have to say times change. I don't
think my generation would have been as mature about it!
Don Howell
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:41:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Susanica Tam
Subject: yay!
hi everyone,
this is Susan....i don't contribute to the list too
much 'cuz i don't have much to say, but i like reading
everything--but guess what? Last night i played my
first hockey game! Since I have been 12, i have been
hotly debating the topic of hockey with my parents.
They don't think i should play...=(..it's been just
impossible talking to them.. i think i tried
everything. But 4 years later, i've finally made some
progress...the game was soo exhilerating. All the
"study sessions" at friends houses where we slipped
out
to go to stick times...the sneaking out to play...it's
all been worth it. I'm so glad i got to play, even
though I felt kind of lost and embarassed..everyone
else seemed to be so good!I want to get better...and
play more......well it's a start i guess. I want
to thank everyone who helped me and provided advice
along the way. (there are a lot of you). Sorry if i'm
boring you, but i can't contain my excitement!
oh yeah, can somebody tell me how to adjust my helmet?
My friend went to boarding school so he gave me his
old
helmet...towards the end of the game i realized it was
hurting me, near my temple on both sides. Can i adjust
it? Should i get a new one? What kind?
THANKS!!!!!
love,
Susan #21
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 23:58:33 -0400
From: Debbie Minden
Subject: Re: The Stench
We are talking about teenagers, not adults. Right after a game, they all
smell bad. Some care for their equipment like you do, and some don't. If
you try to to into a locker room after a game or practice, these
adolescents can just blow you away. Do not judge the teenagers by your
standards.
Debbie
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:03:47 -0400
From: Debbie Minden
Subject: Re: yay!
Get someone to check out the helmet for you. They are adjustable. But
remember, your helmet is your most important piece of equipment. You
cannot do much without an intact brain. So if you need a new helmet,
spring for one. If not, you can make your present helmet larger by moving
the screws. A team mate can show you how.
Good luck.
Debbie
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 01:03:55
From: "Craig Roberts"
Subject: MINNESOTA WOMEN'S HOCKEY
GOPHERS ROUT HUSKIES FOR VICTORY IN WCHA-WOMEN'S LEAGUE OPENER
Minnesota got goals from seven different players and Nadine Muzerall had a
career-high five points as the Gophers beat St. Cloud State 10-1 in the
Western Collegiate Hockey Association-Women's League opener for both
teams.
Muzerall scored her lone goal of the night on the power play, just 1:45 into
the opening period, to kick off the Gophers' scoring spree, the fourth
consecutive game in which they've scored 10 goals against the Huskies.
Laura Slominski, who set up Muzerall and Kris Scholz for the game's first
two goals, scored at 11:48 of the opening period when she stole the puck
along the left wing boards in the St. Cloud State zone, skated behind the
net and poked home her own rebound on a wrap-around.
The Gophers scored five times in the second period, including a pair of
Tracy Engstrom goals, but the Huskies got their first goal in four games
versus Minnesota when Rebecca Olson scored on the power play at 15:30.
The Gophers outshot their guests 44-10 with Erica Killewald stopping nine
shots while St. Cloud's Laura Gieselman made 34 saves.
The two teams meet again Saturday at the National Hockey Center in St.
Cloud, Minn., which will be the first meeting of the two teams on the
Huskies' home ice.
Goals by Period 1 2 3 Tot
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St. Cloud State..... 0 1 0 - 1
Minnesota........... 3 5 2 - 10
1st period - 1, MINN, Nadine Muzerall 1 (Laura Slominski) 01:45 (pp). 2,
MINN, Kris Scholz 1 (Laura Slominski, Courtney Kennedy) 07:05. 3, MINN,
Laura Slominski 1 11:48. Penalties - Amanda Mathison, SCSU (interference)
01:14; Emily Buchholz, MINN (cross-checking) 04:31; Fiona McLeod, SCSU (high
sticking) 08:00; Winny Brodt, MINN (high sticking) 08:00; Courtney Kennedy,
MINN (roughing) 12:42.
2nd period - 4, MINN, Kris Scholz 1 (Nadine Muzerall, Ronda Curtin)
03:20. 5, MINN, Tracy Engstrom 1 (Ambria Thomas, Kelly Olson) 04:43 (pp). 6,
MINN, Ambria Thomas 1 (Shannon Kennedy) 13:11. 7, SCSU, Rebecca Olson 1
(Jennifer Swanson) 15:30 (pp). 8, MINN, Laura Slominski 2 (Nadine Muzerall,
Courtney Kennedy) 16:15 (pp). 9, MINN, Tracy Engstrom 2 (Nadine Muzerall,
Winny Brodt) 19:11. Penalties - Nadine Muzerall, MINN (holding) 00:41;
Heather Jo Clark, SCSU (holding) 03:50; Courtney Kennedy, MINN (roughing)
10:42; Abby Cooper, SCSU (interference) 11:06; Alyson Sundberg, MINN
(checking) 13:53; Carrie Tonkin, SCSU (interference) 16:04.
3rd period - 10, MINN, Betsey Kukowski 2 (Kris Scholz) 04:51. 11, MINN,
Lacey Franzmeier 1 (Winny Brodt, Nadine Muzerall) 17:56. Penalties - Winny
Brodt, MINN (tripping) 14:17.
Shots on goal - SCSU 1-5-4-10; MINN 17-18-9-44. Power plays - SCSU 1 of
6; MINN 3 of 4. Goalies - SCSU, Laura Gieselman 0-1-0 (44 shots-34 saves);
MINN, Erica Killewald 1-0-0 (10-9). Referee-Jerry Krieger. Asst RefS-Evonne
Young; Robin Taylor. A-1180. T-2:12.
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Craig Roberts
Assistant Sports Information Director
Women's Intercollegiate Athletics
University of Minnesota
Check out our website at www.gophersports.com
Or call the Diet Coke Gopher Sports Hotline
612-626-STAT (7828)
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 09:52:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Margaret Lillard
Subject: Re: mouth guard question
> From: L Krist
> Subject: mouth guard question
>
> To all the women who had their dentist make a mouth guard -
> I have something made for me called a "night guard". Are they the same? Is
> your mouth guard
> worn on the upper teeth or the lower teeth, or is it "in the middle" like
> the boil and bite stuff? I'd like to know if I can use my existing thing as
> a mouth guard...
I'm not sure which type of night guard you're talking about.
Back when I got my braces off about 25 years ago, I was given this thing
called a night guard that fit over my upper and lower teeth. It was a soft
thing molded to my teeth, made in my dentist's office. The instructions
specifically said it could be used as a sports mouth guard; however, I
wouldn't have done so partly because of the size but mainly because --
with my upper and lower teeth both encased in the thing -- I couldn't talk
while using it.
A couple of years ago, I was having problems grinding my teeth at night.
My dentist made me a night guard out of rather hard plastic that actually
shattered once when we were trying to fit it. Obviously, that wouldn't
work for game use. From the same mold, he made me a bite guard for games
of soft plastic. It is molded only to my upper jaw and doesn't cover the
whole front of my teeth, hence the name 'bite guard'. But it offers the
same protection as a Shock Doctor, in that it cushions the impact if you
get hit in the head and your jaws rap together.
You can use your existing thing if:
_ It's soft, malleable plastic (try twisting it)
_ It's colored (or you can safely color it)
_ you can attach it to your mask (I poked a little hole through the front
of mine and used a bit of braided dental floss to tie it on)
Basically, ask your dentist.
In general, sports-specific mouth guards -- including the boil-n-bite --
go only on your upper teeth.
But, again, it's best to just ask your dentist.
Margaret
Brooklyn Blades, #49
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:49:46 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: The Stench
In a message dated 10/16/99 12:04:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
email@hidden writes:
<< We are talking about teenagers, not adults. Right after a game, they all
smell bad. Some care for their equipment like you do, and some don't. If
you try to to into a locker room after a game or practice, these
adolescents can just blow you away. Do not judge the teenagers by your
standards.
Debbie >>
EVERYBODY smells bad after playiing. (If you don;t you were not playig hard
enough!) Some just smell worse than others. I can almost guarantee that the
ones who don't care for their gear are the ones who make up for the majority
of the stench.
I can't agree that ALL teenagers stink to the extent that you desribe. I was
manager of a HS age team over the summer and their locker room was no worse
than any of my own team's locker rooms. (granted, this was an all grirl's
team.) So, you must be implying that the teenage boys are (generally) the
ones who stink.
I've never had the honor of walking into a teenage boy's locker room afetr a
game. But, I have shared locker rooms with men. What I have observed it
that YES, when guys are present, the smell is generally worse. I also
observed that (generally) they do not seem to care for their equipment. Case
in point - they way they poked fun at me when I sprayed febreeze on my gear
after every time we played. But then, I coninced one brave soul to sniff my
febreezed glove, and he sheepishly admitted that the spray was a good idea.
I was not "judging" anybody. You mentioned something about a horrible smell
in the locker room, and I went on a tangent on how to care for gear so it
does not become something that can be used for biological warfare.
Jill
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:36:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Margaret Lillard
Subject: Sad warning for a new season
Tonight is the first practice for the Brooklyn Blades 1999-2000 season,
the team's fifth season and my fourth as a member of it.
So it was an interesting bit of timing to be checking in on the
Canuckleheads and find this article that I hope all my teammates and
opponents take a minute to look at:
http://www.vancouverprovince.com/hockeypage/stories/3005588.html
Good luck to all of you who are starting a new season this year, and safe
skating!
Margaret
Brooklyn Blades #49
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:14:29 -0700
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
Subject: Senior Rec Tournament: Victoria, BC
The second annual Lindal Sportsmanship Tournament (hosted by the Victoria
Stingers) is being held at rinks in the Greater Victoria area March 17, 18
and 19, 2000. The first tournament was a big success and organizers are
interested in hearing from travelling teams that want to come to beautiful
Victoria in the early Spring. The Stingers are the pioneers of women's rec
hockey in Victoria (over 30 years of history) and are renowned as a
friendly, fun outfit. All skill levels are welcome.
For information, contact Teri Cotton at:
Phone: (250) 478-5251
or fax/phone: (250) 478-5203
E-mail can also be sent to:
Debbie Cottrell-
email@hidden
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 13:01:34 -0500
From: lohr
Subject: washing gear
>Some gear is beyond hope, but if you start caring for your gear when it is
>new, and wash it about every 6 months, the side effects will be minimal.
How do you wash your hockey equipment? I have played for three years and now
am playing college hockey. The school provides most the gear, but the gear I
have to provide definatley reaks. How can I wash it to make it last longer
(hopefully 4 more years)? The washers I have access to are typicall college
dorm washing machines. Not to great.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Karen
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