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Women-in-Hockey Digest Thursday, May 27 1999 Volume 01 : Number 437
In this issue:
So you wanna be a goalie...
Re: Wimmin's Ruggah
Re: Bruises (was Re: Wimmin's Ruggah)
paint for a mask
HELMETS!
Re: HELMETS!
Re: paint for a mask
Re: so you wanna be a goalie...
Re: so you wanna be a goalie...
High-Performance Summer Skate in Chicago
Women in "rough" sports
Manon Has A Boy!
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:18:19 -0500
From: "Westbrook, Summer"
Subject: So you wanna be a goalie...
I friend of mine who is participating in Adult skating/hockey classes has
determined she wants to be a goalie. This is based on prior experience as a
soccer goalie, very good hand/eye coordination, and she is very smart about
any sport she plays (sees the plays well, etc.)
Problem is, she not a very good skater at this point and is a little
discouraged with that, but not giving up. Plus the Dallas area has little or
no goalie instruction male or female. Are there ways to 'test the water'
before making the huge investment in the new equipment? What are some steps
to starting down the road to net minding? Any advise would be appreciated,
including starter gear suggestions, how it should fit, books, whatever.
thanks
Summer
#4
Brewers
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:50:02 -0400
From: Ali Lemer
Subject: Re: Wimmin's Ruggah
At 9:28 AM -0400 5/26/99, email@hidden wrote:
>
>This rugby sounds cool, but I really have no desire to deliberately go out
>there and get beaten up.
Well, playing rugby isn't "deliberately go[ing] out there and get[ting]
beaten up". I played rugby for a couple of seasons when I was at school in
England (with no ice hockey, so I needed something to do) and back home in
New York, and while yes, you can certainly get hurt playing, not everyone
walked off the pitch every game with black eyes and bruises all over her
body. The point of the game is scoring, not beating people up; people often
say that "hockey is all about fighting", which is, as we all know,
inaccurate as well. Rugby is a very cool game, and from my experience,
engenders much more camaraderie and teammateship than hockey does, probably
because of the structure and nature of the game -- and that's something I
miss in hockey, actually, although I too would definitely rather play
hockey than rugby (hockey's my first sports love). I'm glad I did play
rugby, though, as it was a lot of fun.
[....]
>I'm sure that rugby requires a great amount of skill, but it also requires an
>equal amount of loose screws in the ol' melon. (IMHO.) Ice hockey, even
>without body checking, and with the protective gear is a great sport. By no
>means, do we have it easy. Put one of those rugby players in a pair of ice
>skates, and see how they slip & slide, and fall flat on their face.
Actually, a friend of mine from rugby just starting playing hockey this
season (due to my influence, I'm afraid :-) and she's not fallen any more
than the other players. Her skating's fine; she's just working on her
stickhandling, like any beginning player.
>Not only
>do we have to learn a game that moves at a lighting fast pace, but we have to
>learn how to ice skate as well. It's been 2 years for me, and I am still
>working on the skating. I would hope that anybody attempting to play rugby
>already knows how to run.
Well, yes, but there are different kinds of running. There's the kind of
running that's just flat-out fast in a straight line (which most people
know already), and the kind of running that means quick pivots and weight
shifts so you can "deke" around people without sacrificing too much speed
(or falling over). Rugby is definitely a challenging game, with a lot to
learn. For example, tackling is not just throwing yourself at someone and
knocking her down; there are specific ways to tackle someone, and it has to
be learned and practiced, like any other skill.
Anyway, rugby is not just a haven for loonies (no more than ice hockey is,
anyway, and I know a lot of people who think I'm crazy for playing that --
perhaps crazier than for playing rugby, since I started off in college
playing on a men's checking team, whereas women and men never play rugby
together). Yes, there's no padding like in hockey, but it's not as
necessary -- you're not pounding each other into hard plastic boards at
high speeds; when you do fall, you fall on a dirt pitch, which is much
softer. I found learning rugby to be much more challenging than learning
hockey -- there are many more rules that seem more arcane and confusing,
and like most people, I can skate faster than I can run, so I really had to
move my ass in rugby. Learning how to tackle was the most fun, I think; I
really enjoyed playing inside centre because it meant I got to throw lots
of tackles (whereas playing wing wasn't as exciting because it's mostly
just running).
If anyone on the list has ever been interested in rugby and there's a team
near her, I would definitely recommend giving it a try. It's quite a lot of
fun. And thanks to whoever forwarded the article; except for the
unfortunate comment about lesbians at the end, I enjoyed reading it.
- -- Ali.
Ali Lemer -=- ali at panix dot com -=-=- http://www.brookylnblades.org -=-
"Dolphins: the world's smartest mammals! Do they wear pants? -=-=-=-
No! But they wish they did! That's how smart they are!" -- Tom Servo -=-
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:27:35 -0700
From: Anne Paulson
Subject: Re: Bruises (was Re: Wimmin's Ruggah)
At 09:48 AM 5/26/99 -0400, Val Schmitt wrote:
>Your post reminded me of a great story told by our goalie a few
>years ago. She was at her yearly physical and at the end of all
>the tests and inspections the doctor sat down and said "Everything
>looks fine, but I noticed that you have a number of bad bruises...
>can we talk about your personal relationships and whether there
>are any problems I can help with?" She burst out laughing and
>explained that she's an ice hockey goalie.
LOL! Good for the doc, though. All too often women who really
are being battered get their symptoms ignored by the medical
system.
- -- Anne Paulson
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Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:32:43 -0700
From: "Tanya Martin"
Subject: paint for a mask
I am trying to fix up some old equipment for a friend to use and was
wondering if anyone new what kind of paint you can use on a face mask?
Tanya
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:36:28 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: HELMETS!
It is with great sadness that I write the following:
Now that springtime is upon us, I'm sure that there are lots of hockey
players (and non-players alike) out there taking to the concrete on our
rollerblades.
I used to think nothing of popping on my knee pads, wrist guards, and
rollerbaldes and heading out for the paths. Next time I head for the
asphalt, I can guarantee that I will be adding a helmet to my list of
equipment.
A good friend of mine just attended the funeral of her 21 year old cousin,
who died tragically and needlessly in a rollerblading accident. The cause of
death was "massive head injuries."
She was a very good skater, and almost always wore her helmet. She was not
wearing her helmet on this particular day.
the newspaper article can be found at www.eagleharbor.net
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, WEAR YOUR HELMETS!! ALL THE TIME!!
Jill
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:48:39 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: HELMETS!
Thanks Jill for the report on Jessica and her untimely death. I just wish
there was a way to get young people to understand the frailty of their
heads.....helmets may not look "cool" but funerals aren't very "cool" either.
Nor is it very fun to spend the rest of one's life with brain damage.
On a less serious note about inline skating outside, protective gear isn't
always enough...warming up and paying attention help too. I was just
learning to skate and play hockey when I went out one morning to practice my
skating in my neighborhood. I wasn't really in the mood, hadn't warmed up and
wasn't paying attention. Just half a block down from my house I went down a
driveway to get into the street, my wheels caught and I fell back, catching
my full body weight on my right arm. I had broken both bones in my right
arm straight across! I was so ANGRY because I knew right away it would be a
long time before I could play hockey again. My anger helped me cope with the
pain!
It took two month in a cast, and two months more of recovery before I got
back to playing hockey again. My arm will never be the same, it is bent and
doesn't have full rotation. My insurance only covers hospitalization, so I
am still making monthly payments on the costs and will be for several more
years.
The moral of the story is that a moments care and thought can really make a
difference in one's life. Whether it's taking the time to wear a helmet,
check out your route, warm up, or just to decide if it's the right time to do
the activity.
So please use care in your summer activities, we need all the women hockey
players we can get!
laura
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:17:08 -0400
From: "TeePee Communications"
Subject: Re: paint for a mask
> I am trying to fix up some old equipment for a friend to use and was
> wondering if anyone new what kind of paint you can use on a face mask?
It all depends what the mask is made of.
Something like and Eddy mask is made up differently than
something like an Itech, (which is why they're approx 3x the price
of an Itech).
When I bought mine the label warning said do not paint it. Then
how come they painted it white?
I think the best thing to do would be to contact the manufacturer,
they would know best. Some paints are harmful, not to the point
where you notice anything by looking at it, but slowly eat away at
the kevlar and fibreglass, to the point where the mask may not offer
sufficient protection. I've had shots that caved in the cage to the
point where it cut into my face, ( but i stopped the puck :-) so with
shots that hard you don't want to soften the mask.
Which reminds me, it is a good idea to replace the cage at the
start of every season, hairline cracks or hidden rust can be
dangerous if not lethal.
Tim
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TeePee Communications
Womens Hockey Photo Website
http://web.idirect.com/~teepee/hockey.htm
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:53:43 -0800
From: Syrilyn Tong
Subject: Re: so you wanna be a goalie...
She should see if there is anyone out there who is approximately her size
so that she can borrow some equipment for awhile. Then, if there is any
drop-in hockey, or maybe a lower level league that she can play in, she can
try it out. Speaking for myself, I was in her shoes when I began my hockey
career (couldn't skate, but had played goal in broomball and floor hockey),
but decided I had better learn to skate 1st. I did, but by that spring I
had borrowed equipment and never looked back (once a goalie, always a
goalie). I suspect the same will happen of her.... As for good
books/videos, the two best I have found are the video "The Puck Stops Here"
and the USA Hockey book "Coach's Goaltending Manual". Both are advertised
in USA Hockey's magazine, and probably on their web page, too. Tell her
good luck!!
Syrilyn Tong
email@hidden
email@hidden
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:38:36 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: so you wanna be a goalie...
Perhaps you can speak with the director of the hockey program at your local
rink. I'm sure they msut have piles of old gear lying around that she can
either borrow or keep.
When I got my start, the director of the hockey program at the rink just GAVE
me a pair of used hockey skates. OK, so they turned out ot be 3 sizes too
big, but after using these skates 3 or 4 times, I was hooked on skating, and
anxious to learn hockey!! I went out and bought a pair of brand new skates.
(in the right size.) And, subsequently, gave the old skates back to the rink
so that someone else can enjoy them.
Jill
# 77 LI Hurricanes.
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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:17:13 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: High-Performance Summer Skate in Chicago
Greetings...
For the third consecutive summer, Johnny's Icehouse will be home to the only
High-Performance invitational skate in the Chicagoland area featuring
advanced level players from Division 1 and college club, top senior teams,
AAA midget, high school and select AAA pee-wee teams.
A maximum of 22 players (30 overall) will meet on 6 consecutive Thursday
evenings at Johnny's, beginning July 15 and running thru August 19, 8:15pm
to 9:45pm.
Cost will be $15 per skater. Players will need to bring a white and colored
jersey.
Our format will consist of 20-30 minute quick tempo warm-up/flow drills
followed by a 60-70 minute competitive scrimmage under the
direction/supervision of veteran Illinois women's coach Dave Logan. Our
event is for experienced, advanced level players only; this is not a
beginners or limited experience skate for those new to hockey.
Current and former players from the following universities and organizations
who will be participating include those from D1 programs Yale, Harvard,
Princeton, Boston, Cornell and club skaters from Michigan, Michigan State,
Wisconsin. Top players from senior teams Illinois Storm and Chicago Ice as
well as youth organizations Team Illinois and Chicago Young Americans will
also be back this summer.
There are a reasonable number of slots still open. Local and out of state
visiting players, vacationing or graduating college players, and select youth
players are welcome to participate. Please e mail coach Logan at
email@hidden or phone 312-633-1197 for more information. Include name,
phone number, address and brief comments on your experience and current
hockey activity.
"Sharpen 'em up and tape it tight" as we hit the ice this summer for what
promises to be another exciting, challenging, fun-filled skate!
This is an opportunity to skate with a mix of new players and maintain your
edge prior to the competitive Fall season through a fun , fast-paced skate.
Of particular benefit will be the chance for skilled youth players (not less
than age 14 please) to skate along side current and former Division 1 level
players as a means of evaluating their progress.
"Sharpen'em up and tape it tight" as we hit the ice this summer for what
promises to be another exciting, challenging, fun-filled skate!
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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:17:10 -0700
From: Ingrid Moon
Subject: Women in "rough" sports
> As for the bruises incurred playing hockey, I have had quite a few. Unlike
> the rugby players, I do not make any efforts to hide my bruises at the
> office. I once had a puck mark on my lower thigh. It was from stepping in
> front of a slapshot that would have most certainly been a goal. It was a
> pretty cool diversion during the weekly project status meeting. ;-)
Some of the worst bruises and injuries I get are from the women's league I
play in, not the men's league I play in. The women's league is a spread of
skill levels, six balanced teams with newbies and A players on the same
teams. (Hey, there's not a lot of hockey in So Cal) The men's league is
divided by skill into divisions; we play in a no-check lower-intermediate
level. No man apologizes to me for any kind of hit, nor do I expect him
to, nor will I do the same. And so far, in my thwo big fights, no one, not
even my boyfriend, has come to my aid (I won't allow him to). Although he
has been known to go ballistic and fly off the bench...
As for perceptions at work, my boss loves to announce to people in
meetings, "I brought Ingrid to make sure the meeting goes my way."
Everyone knows I play hockey. And oddly enough, I don't think I'm
perceived (for once in my life) as "one of the guys." Either that or I
work with a lot of horny programmers.
I have experienced men who have a problem playing *with* women on the ice,
but not that they have a problem with women playing in general. For the
most part it has been a very pleasant experience and most men in my area
are very accepting. One thing's for sure--*I* am not going to be the one
to leave a team because some man on the team can't get with the program.
Ingrid
http://www.ingridmoon.com
email@hidden
(818) 760-6544
ICQ# 14366239
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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:21:13 -0400
From: Ken
Subject: Manon Has A Boy!
Just read today that Manon Rheaume has given birth to a baby boy on May
24. Info on her new official website below.
http://www.manonrheaume.com/
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