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Women-in-Hockey Digest Saturday, March 20 1999 Volume 01 : Number 395
In this issue:
WIH Re: Boring List
high school hockey questions
Re: Olympic team try-outs
Re: Olympic team try-outs
(wih) lack of coverage in the US
Re: WIH Re: Boring List
Re: WIH Re: Boring List
World Championship Final
Re: (wih) lack of coverage in the US
Re: World Championships
Re: Women's Sports Magazines
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:00:08 -0500
From: "TeePee Communications"
Subject: WIH Re: Boring List
> It has been boring but I am sure that will change with Chanda back! The
> problem with the World Championships are that there is so little news
> around compared to the Olympics. Personnally I couldn't get at all
> interested in it this year even though I am really involved in Women's
> Hockey. I just chalked my lack of interest up to lack of news? I am also
> surprised that with the ECAC Championships just completed and all the US
> Regionals wrapped up that postings for news, comments, reports or whatever
> would made the list busy? What's up?
>
I think you are correct, lack of interest does go along with lack of
news.
I am surprised that some of the Fox Sports Regional channels can
carry Women's college hockey , but no one can carry the World's.
Don't take that as college hockey isn't good, it is, but the World's
are so much bigger.
As a satelite tv dealer, I know there are ways for people in the US
to see the games if they really want to, albeit somewhat pricey.
Lack of news ? College Basketball is wrapping up, preseason
baseball is on, and the NBA is going again. We all know women's
hockey takes a back burner to these, unfortunately.
Someone hinted bad goaltending may have lost the US the World's.
Maybe the TSN Challenge, but not the Gold at the World's. Erin
Whitten kept the US in the game. I believe it was the lack of
experience, especially defensively. Canada seemed to work very
well as a team, the US seemed to work as individuals.
All the above is my $ .02 worth ( $ .0145 Cdn)
Tim
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:14:14 -0700
From: Mitzi Witchger
Subject: high school hockey questions
Instead of doing this piecemeal, as has been the case so far, I'm
asking all of you W-I-N readers for help.
I'm doing research to get ALL the information I can about the
growth of high school girls hockey programs in prep, private, parochial,
public schools, whether at the varsity, jv, or club level. This would
include teams from the Minnesota Miracle (98 high school teams in 98-99);
Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Maine, Massachuesetts, Michigan, New
Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Rhode Island, Vermont,
Wisconsin; East, West, North, South; USA, Canada, wherever.
The states listed above have boys ice hockey teams that in some
manner come under the auspices of their state high school athletic
association. That means in those states girls high school hockey has a very
good chance of becoming a reality as it did in MN, IF schools are out of
compliance with Title IX (most are) AND there's a boys high school hockey
team, AND girls themselves formally request (in writing with a request for
a written answer within a couple of weeks, or at a school board mtg, which
is a public mtg) a girls hockey team.
Some of these questions you may not have answers for; just answer
those you can. I'd take all the information you want to give me about your
team.
For my research and to help get information to others who want high
school girls hockey teams but encounter administrative roadblocks, I would
like to know all you want to tell me: Where you are located; how may other
girls teams are there in your state; why you want a high school girls
hockey team; have you asked your school for one; who did you ask; what was
their response (according to the Office of Civil Rights, cost CANNOT be an
excuse for not fielding a team); is it in writing? Your team's history:
how your program got started; how long it has been in existence; if it is
funded in the same manner your boys team is; why, why not; how many players
annually make the team; how many try out; how many go on to play college
hockey; if and how your youth association is supportive of your high school
program; if and how adult women's teams are helpful? Does it cost to play;
is there a ticket fee for fans; is it the same as the boys team; what is
the amount? What about scheduling of practice ice and games; is it rotated
so that each team gets the best and the less good hours some of the time;
are varsity games played back to back, or on rotating niites? How much does
your program cost your school? As you can tell some of these questions are
for teams already in existence.
I'd like to hear from MN teams as well: about how they got started,
etc. I plan ultimately that this information will form the basis of a book.
According to the MN State High School League in 1999-2000 there
will be at least 110 high school girls ice hockey teams in MN, funded just
the same way the boys teams are. That success can happen in other states,
too. Advocacy, education, communication, & dedication are parts of the
answer.
I appreciate you help in finding that answer.
Please send your information to email@hidden. Thank you!
Mitzi Witchger
GREAT! Girls Really Expect A Team!
More and more girls are learning what most boys have known for so long:
Sports are about so much more than the score!!
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:46:01 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Olympic team try-outs
How does the selection process for Team USA(olympics) work? Is there a tryout
somewhere? We live in the mid-west(St. Louis, MO area) and this is my 12 yr.
old daughter's goal. There aren't any girl's teams in our area. She has
played 7 years on boys' teams. She recently tried-out for a women's team but
they said you have to be 18 or over to play in the tournaments they attend but
asked her to practice with them anyway which is a good opportunity for extra
ice time. Olivia doesn't want to wait until she's on a college team to try to
make Team USA so, I'm stymied on what to do next. Thanks for any assistance
you can give me.
Debbie (#49's Mom)
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:09:11 -0500
From: Louise
Subject: Re: Olympic team try-outs
At 10:46 AM 19/03/1999 -0500, email@hidden wrote:
>How does the selection process for Team USA(olympics) work? Is there a
tryout
>somewhere? We live in the mid-west(St. Louis, MO area) and this is my 12 yr.
>old daughter's goal.
When I used to be involved with women's teams in the USA, there used to be
lists in the annual USA Hockey Handbook, of the players who had attended
that year's invitational camp for elite female players in their late teens.
I don't know how you would get invited to those camps, but you could start
by calling or writing to USA Hockey officials such as your district's
Girls'/Women's Section Rep - see below.
>There aren't any girl's teams in our area. She has
>played 7 years on boys' teams.
Have you considered working to put together a girls' team or teams in your
area? As your daughter gets older, she would probably enjoy playing with
girls, even if she continues to play on a boys' team as well. If there are
other girls playing boys' hockey in your area, you could start by getting
those girls together for occasional practices, exhibition games, and
tournaments. Call your district Girls'/Women's Rep for advice and
contacts - on the USA Hockey website the listing is:
CENTRAL DISTRICT (Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Wisconsin)
Judy Ferwerda (608) 829-1449
Louise
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:23:08 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: (wih) lack of coverage in the US
In a message dated 99-03-19 07:47:15 EST, email@hidden writes:
<<
Forgive me. I thought ESPN might pick up the games for you guys to the south
of us. >>
The lack of coverage of women;s hockey in the US is pathetic. Especially
considering the success of the US Olympic team.
I think it boils down to who (they think) the current hockey audience is -
(keeping this VERY PC) people who like to watch the hard hits and the fights.
(and those who like to crush beer cans on their foreheads.) Why do you think
that the US ratings for the NHL all-star game are so low? Because this game
is based on skill and finesse. The is virtually no checking, and certainly no
fighting. Sounds a lot like the women's game, eh?
Jill
# 77 Brooklyn Blades
# 77 LI Hurricanes
"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:45:52 -0500
From: Val Schmitt
Subject: Re: WIH Re: Boring List
TeePee Communications wrote:
> As a satelite tv dealer, I know there are ways for people in the US
> to see the games if they really want to, albeit somewhat pricey.
Even without the cost factor, this isn't quite true - I tried to get a baby
dish, but the trees around my neighborhood conspired against me - short of
putting a 20-30 foot pole up from my chimney, there was no way for me to get it
working. So I'm stuck with cable, regardless of what I want.
But then again, if the games were on satellite I could have gone to a sports bar
and asked for them to be put on...
- --Val
Val Schmitt ** email@hidden Life is change.
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Nighthawks Ice Hockey C Team Co-Captain #22 --Karen Kaiser Clark
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:19:35 -0500
From: "TeePee Communications"
Subject: Re: WIH Re: Boring List
Date sent: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:45:52 -0500
From: Val Schmitt
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: WIH Re: Boring List
> TeePee Communications wrote:
>
> > As a satelite tv dealer, I know there are ways for people in the US
> > to see the games if they really want to, albeit somewhat pricey.
>
> Even without the cost factor, this isn't quite true - I tried to get a baby
> dish, but the trees around my neighborhood conspired against me - short of
> putting a 20-30 foot pole up from my chimney, there was no way for me to get it
> working. So I'm stuck with cable, regardless of what I want.
>
> But then again, if the games were on satellite I could have gone to a sports bar
> and asked for them to be put on...
>
>
Yes, it IS true, you would have to buy a Canadian system, and
subscription, which ends up to be fairly expensive for one or two
women's hockey games ( 2 more coming up next weekend ).
And yes they are on satellite, just not the one at your local bar or
your standard dss system.
Tim
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 18:18:53 -0800
From: KL Sports
Subject: World Championship Final
Just wanted to let any of our American list members know that if you are
interested in getting a video copy of the World Championship Final Game
please email me directly.
KL Sports "Sport Source for Women" is also in the process of getting some
new photos from the World Championships. We will be adding both Team
Canada and Team USA actions shots to our website. www.trytel.com/~klsport
I'll update you when we have them available.
Also we have copies of the National Film Board Video "The Game of Her Life"
available which come with a set of 8 NFB hockey cards (Manon Rheaume,
Cassie Campbell, Vicky Sunohara, Hayley Wickenheiser, France St.Louis,
Angela James, Shannon Miller, Luce Letendre) You can check this out on our
website or email me directly if you are interested in a copy.
KL Sports
"Sport Source for Women"
3492 Southgate Road
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada K1V 9P9
fax: (613)739-3316
email: email@hidden
web: www.trytel.com/~klsport
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:17:28 -0800
From: Don Howell
Subject: Re: (wih) lack of coverage in the US
>
>I think it boils down to who (they think) the current hockey audience is -
>(keeping this VERY PC) people who like to watch the hard hits and the fights.
>(and those who like to crush beer cans on their foreheads.)
I am not sure I agree totally with that. I think people have trouble
relating to the Allstar game. While you can see the best players there is
nothing on the line. There are no rivalries as much as they try to talk the
match ups up. The players do take it easy so no one gets hurt which does
take away something though.
I don't think women's hockey is that mild. Good teams play very aggressive
and physical hockey. I admit fights are very few and far between but that
is fine! I think people who have not seen top level women's hockey have a
perception that is unfounded. I took some male friends to see US and Canada
play in San Jose last year and they were very cool about it and went so
they wouldn't hurt my feelings. They were very surprised at what they saw!
It will take time but it will happen!
Don Howell
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 21:32:35 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: World Championships
In a message dated 99-03-18 20:26:52 EST, email@hidden writes:
>Quite significant, I think.
>Also this year there were no indications that (ahem) inappropriate
>relationships existed between staff and players
We miss a lot of the news down here (Houston), Phil. What relationships are
you referring to?
Terry P
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 10:58:33 -0800
From: Nancy and Leonard
Subject: Re: Women's Sports Magazines
>re: women's sports magazines
>
>Actually, before Conde Nast bought "Women's Sports and Fitness", it was a
>serious women's sports magazine. I would hate to have just resubscribed
>long term to the magazine when it was bought out--one month they're
>publishing articles about training for long-distance running, orienteering,
>sports nutrition, and the like, and the next month there's an article about
>two women who dressed up as "golf ho's" (I'm not kidding) to see if they
>could pick up a rich guy at a professional golf tournament.
>
>Laurie
I totally agree. I started reading the magazine back in 1972 when it was
first started
by Billie Jean King as WomenSports. Needless to say, I am not renewing
my subscription.
I feel like I'm reading Vogue Goes To The Gym. I have received free
trial issues of SI
for Women and Amy Love's Real Sports. Both seem quite good and I'll
continue getting them.
Of course, I have been subscribing to Hipcheck from Issue 1 and will
stick with that, too.
I have noticed that sports specific magazines (I also cycle, ski, and
figure skate as well
as play hockey) tend to have better women's sports coverage than general
market fitness magazines.
We may still have a long way to go, but it is still way better than
pre-Title IX (when I was in
high school)!
Nancy Donahue
mailto:email@hidden
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