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Women-in-Hockey Digest      Sunday, May 24 1998      Volume 01 : Number 214



In this issue:

   In urgent need of assistance...
   Re: In urgent need of assistance...
   Re: In urgent need of assistance...
   Re: In urgent need of assistance...
   Re: In urgent need of assistance...
   Equipment Salvage
   Wickenheiser invited to Philly Camp
   Re: Equipment Salvage

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Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 11:41:16 -0500
From: Madeleine Oldham 
Subject: In urgent need of assistance...

Help!

	My sewage pipes backed up, flooded my basement, and drenched all of my
equipment.  So now it all smells like sewage.
	A while back there was a discussion of how to clean equipment.  I
thought I'd remember, but I don't, and now I'm sorry.
	Can anyone tell me the best way to get rid of this terrible stench? 
There was some discussion of baking soda and something else...
	Also, do you totally immerse everything or are there some things that
you don't want to get totally wet?  Skates, for example - is there any
way to remove the smell from the boot?
	Please help - I have to skate on Monday!

- -madeleine

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 18:04:14 EDT
From: PokeCheck8 
Subject: Re: In urgent need of assistance...

<< Help!  My sewage pipes backed up, flooded my basement, and drenched all of
my equipment.  So now it all smells like sewage.  A while back there was a
discussion of how to clean equipment.  I thought I'd remember, but I don't,
and now I'm sorry. Can anyone tell me the best way to get rid of this terrible
stench?  There was some discussion of baking soda and something else... Also,
do you totally immerse everything or are there some things that you don't want
to get totally wet?  Skates, for example - is there any way to remove the
smell from the boot? Please help - I have to skate on Monday!>>

Awwww  MAN, Madeline!  Throw it OUT!!!  
Honestly- If it really WAS "sewage" that pervaded your equipment, then you
have a bigger problem that just a stench: namely, bacteria.  There is an
industrial-strength bacterial cleanser (which hospitals use) called
"Clockwise".  It takes out STENCH & stains...this stuff even kills the HIV
bacteria- use it!  

Seriously- if you can't get a cleanser like this- don't wear your gear!!!
Have you ever heard of Impetego?  It is a particularly nasty bacterial skin
infection one gets from exposing themselves to the bacteria found in fecal
matter (SEWAGE).  You really don't want to catch it!

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 18:23:29 EDT
From: Goneskatin 
Subject: Re: In urgent need of assistance...

Hi there,
The first thing I would be worried about is disinfecting your gear, before you
worry about smell. If it was soiled with sewage, it could be contaminated with
scary bacteria like hepatitis, E. Coli, staph, strep, etc. Hepatitis can
survive outside a host for a long time, and on dry surfaces. Even the lesser
bacteria can cause some nasty skin infections if you don't get them off your
gear. I would recommend soaking everything that got wet in some preparation of
bleach solution (1 cup in 48 qt cooler, or 2 cups to 1/2 bathtub full water).
The weaker the bleach solution, the longer you should soak the items. If you
don't have time to do a long soak, go higher on the strength of bleach (2 cups
to 48 qts), but you will have to rinse more times to get rid of the bleach. I
soak my gear once a month outside in a 48 qt. cooler with a combo of bleach,
laundry soap (Melaleuca brand...cuz it has Tea Trea Oil in it, natural
antifungal). I let it sit for a few hours with bricks weighting it down under
water level, then agitate well with an old stick to loosen oils and dirt.
Finish with at least two rinses of clean water, and more if you can still
smell a bleach odor on the gear. My criteria for being done with rinsing is
when the stuff rinses clear and the bleach odor is barely noticeable. You
don't want to leave any residue of bleach because it will cause premature wear
of the material, especially anything cotton. This will fade colors on your
gear! I have been doing this with the 2nd hand gear I bought last Sept, and it
has held up well.

I would not recommend that for the skates, but I would spray them down well
with Lysol and let them air dry in the sun for a day. There is a great product
on the market to neutralize odors that we have found useful in Houston (fungus
capital of the world because of the humidity here)....Stinkout is the brand
name, made by SLAM! ph. 714-375-0459 fx 714-842-2135,
email@hidden. I would use that lastly, if there is any residual
odor that the bleach/soap steps didn't take care of. Good luck! And do realize
that using the bleach will deteriorate your gear much more rapidly, but it is
better than dropping $$ for new gear, eh?

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 18:28:55 EDT
From: Goneskatin 
Subject: Re: In urgent need of assistance...

In a message dated 98-05-23 18:14:22 EDT, email@hidden writes:

>Awwww  MAN, Madeline!  Throw it OUT!!!  
>Honestly- If it really WAS "sewage" that pervaded your equipment, then you
>have a bigger problem that just a stench: namely, bacteria.  There is an
>industrial-strength bacterial cleanser (which hospitals use) called
>"Clockwise".  It takes out STENCH & stains...this stuff even kills the HIV
>bacteria- use it!  
>
>Seriously- if you can't get a cleanser like this- don't wear your gear!!!
>Have you ever heard of Impetego?  It is a particularly nasty bacterial skin
>infection one gets from exposing themselves to the bacteria found in fecal
>matter (SEWAGE).  You really don't want to catch it!
>
>

It doesn't take much to kill HIV bacteria. And you are NOT going to get HIV
from soiled hockey gear! Bleach, give the proper amount of time, will kill
just about anything. We use a weak bleach solution in the operating room to
wipe down the tables and floor between cases. Bleach is very cheap to use vs.
the commercial cleansers, too. I think the gear is worth salvaging, if
properly disinfected.

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:37:47 EDT
From: DAT  BYTES 
Subject: Re: In urgent need of assistance...

In a message dated 98-05-23 14:56:16 EDT, email@hidden writes:

<< 
 Help!
 
 	My sewage pipes backed up, flooded my basement, and drenched all of my
 equipment.  So now it all smells like sewage.
 	A while back there was a discussion of how to clean equipment.  I
 thought I'd remember, but I don't, and now I'm sorry.
 	Can anyone tell me the best way to get rid of this terrible stench?  >>


Perhaps you should wear the gear as it is.......if it really smells THAT bad,
the defense will stay away from you for sure.  Use this opportunity to score
goals!!!

Now,  here's my serious answer:

Use this as an excuse to buy new gear.  Personally, if it were my gear that
got all covered with sewage, I would be so skeeved (sp??) that I would not be
able to wear it.

But, keep in mind,  this is comming from someone who sprays EVERYTHING with
Lysol the second I get home - and throws my gloves and other goodies in the
wash evrry couple of months.....

(When I went to get my skates sharpened, the guy commented: "Your skates smell
sooooooooo good!!"  A ratehr odd comment, I thought!!)

Good luck!

Jill

# 77 Brooklyn Blades
"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires"

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Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 11:48:59 EDT
From: Bryndlion 
Subject: Equipment Salvage

    The recent event of Madeleine's equipment (sorry Madeleine you just happen
to jog the memory) has led to the next list of ideas brought to the attention
of myself as a player and a coach.

List of Way to Protect Yourself From Your Equiptment:

1.   Tear a fabrick softner dryer sheet in half put one half into each of your
gloves. 
    a. Remember to take them out before you play.
    b. after every couple months (even if your not playing in the off season)
2.   Do the same for your skates
3.   Call your insurance company.
    1. Some insurance companies will allow you to claim your equiptment on
your home owners policy. 
    NO this does not cover worn out equiptment you cannot claim your stuff is
to old. (I wouldn't have typed this one if it hadn't already been asked)
     NO this will not cover you if the eqiuptment is stolen from your car.(I
know this one first hand!)
  


 Just thought I would share ,However I took to long to type those first three
things so I forgot a lot of the rest I will just have to list them all and
remember next time the subject comes up.

"They shoot... the lion RoArS...
STILL no score"

Bryndlion

P.S. NO Martha Stewart is not my mom.....
  

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Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:05:45 -0700
From: Alan Chim 
Subject: Wickenheiser invited to Philly Camp

Just read in this morning's Vancouver Province that Hayley Wickenheiser has
been invited to attend the Philadelphia Flyers Prospects camp 

Check out:  http://www.canoe.ca/HockeyWomen/may23_hwom.html for the full
story.

Alan.

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Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 16:05:00 -0400
From: Debbie Minden 
Subject: Re: Equipment Salvage

>1.   Tear a fabrick softner dryer sheet in half put one half into each of your
>gloves.

1.  If you have sensitive skin, watch out for this one.  One of my kids
with exzema can't tolerate any fabric softeners.  This would keep her off
the ice for ages.

>3.   Call your insurance company.

2.  Get tough with your insurance companies.  They should cover anything
that was damaged in a broken pipe flood.  They do squat for the act of God
type floods.  Also, if the theives do enough damage to your car-break
windows, scratch paint and dismember locks -  they should cover stolen
equipment.  They cover other things taken from cars.  What is it, taking
hockey equipment is punishment enough?

Debbie

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