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Women-in-Hockey Digest Thursday, March 12 1998 Volume 01 : Number 177
In this issue:
Re: Skating Skills
re: skating skills
Re: Girls playing with boys
Re: Girls playing with boys
Cereal Box Covers
Beer Leagues
RE: skating skills
Re: Beer Leagues
Re: Beer Leagues
Re: Beer Leagues
Re: better fitting pants?
Re: Skating skills
Re: Cereal Box Covers
Equipment Problem!
Re: Equipment Problem!
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:07:09 EST
From: ILUVBEEZ34
Subject: Re: Skating Skills
<< We have been running into a skating problem and I was wondering what
others
have done to assist players.
We are starting to get roller hockey players coming out for ice hockey. A
lot of these girls are excellent roller hockey players but when it comes to
ice : ( We are considering having them take figure skating lessons to
learn the basics. They need to learn how to do inside/outside edges,
stopping, crossovers etc. They are unable to do the drills, therefore are
getting discouraged in ice hockey.
Any info would be greatly appreciated!! >>
I have a question about the opposite. I have been playing ice for a year, and
my coach suggested that I try roller to work on my stickhandling and other
drills like that. I can do basically everything on ice- forwards/backwards
crossovers, backwards skating, stopping ( although I don't do that quite the
right way.. it seems that I've made up my own method somewhere in-between
snow
plow and hockey stop.. im still working on getting it right the RIGHT way!).
Anyway, I get on my rollerblades and I feel totally inept. I can't stop, and
I've even had the breaks taken off cause I was told it would make it easier.
I
also have a hard time just skating normally.. and the crossovers, forget
about
it. If anyone has any suggestions, they would be great to hear. Thanks!
Amy #20
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:38:05 -0600 (CST)
From: "Wendy R. Painter"
Subject: re: skating skills
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:11:23 -0800
> From: Judi Stevens
> Subject: skating skills
>
> ice : ( We are considering having them take figure skating lessons to
> learn the basics. They need to learn how to do inside/outside edges,
I would say go with the idea that Jill mentioned, about having them get
together for some private lessons rather than making them do figures. I
got rooked into that last January, when neither of the two rinks in town
had a hockey program suitable for a 24-year-old woman, and thus they
"encouraged" me to take figure skating lessons.
I did enjoy the figure skating, but the blades ARE different, and on my
fairly new hockey skates, things just don't feel the same. Although I
know the theory, I'm having to re-learn the execution. And if your rink
uses the USFSA program, your hockey players will have to get through
several months of lessons before they even get to cross-overs. I am
considering doing exactly what Jill suggested and paying for a few private
lessons where a HOCKEY skater will help me do hockey stuff...
Wendy
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:35:53 -0700 (MST)
From: email@hidden (Laurie Solgon)
Subject: Re: Girls playing with boys
At 04:13 PM 3/11/98 -0800, Don Howell wrote:
>My one daughter took hit after late hit and kept on going.Penalties were
>called but....
>Anyways she finally took a hit in front of our bench that l couldn't
>believe and she ended up going to the hospital for stitches in her arm. My
>other daughter plays defense and an opponent hit her from behind and tried
>to drill her in the head. The Ref saw it and grabbed him before he
>connected.
My daughter is a first year Bantam. She also never has had any problems in
general. The coach tells all the girls to put their hair up, but then the
coaches call them by name on the ice and I think some of the other boys
catch on. Rachel got drilled last sunday and pulled both groin muscles and
hurt her back a little over her tail bone.
She has played with the boys for five years because we're lucky if we have
one or two girls playing as each level in our club. I want her to continue,
but when I think of how badly she could get hurt as a midget, it scares me.
Short of keeping her on the house team (she has skated competitively for the
last 3 years) the only other alternative is to try and get her on the girl's
team in Phoenix (we live in Tucson). But then I've heard the girl's team
doesn't really have anyone to play.
We have a booth at an arts fair next weekend. They allow a limited number
of non-profit organizations to have a booth. Hopefully we can distribute a
bunch of flyers and get the interest up with the girls. The only way that
all of our daughter's won't have to worry about "the goons" is if more girls
start playing hockey. It's getting too late for some of our daughters, but
hopefully not for our granddaughters.
Laurie Solgon
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:23:25 EST
From: Bryndlion
Subject: Re: Girls playing with boys
on 3/11
dhowell wrote
> l am looking forward to seeing them move on to College where they can play
"pure" hockey without the crap! lt will be good for them to be able to make
plays without fear of someone taking their head off!<
Good Luck in your quest and theirs (your daughters) I don't know if you know
this but predgidouse (<~~sorry) doesn't change as a person gets older. If you
think that entering college is going to change the way, the boys they play
with, view them as players you are mistaken.
For example women entering the citadel, it's against the law to keep them out
but that didn't stop 300 or 400 guy's who didn't even know this girl from
mentally tormenting her until she quit. I'm not saying every rink across
america is like this but my expirience is, I still have to yell at male refs
to stop trying to get a date with one of my players and watch the game>
Not many men are like myself in the fact that they still do not take women
playing hockey seriously. It is still just a novelty!
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:59:12 -0500
From: Karin Lofstrom
Subject: Cereal Box Covers
Does any know where you can buy the protective plastic boxes to cover
collector cereal boxes?
It would be a great help if anyone could provide me a store name, address,
phone number, fax or even email.
I have a large collection of the Canadian Women's Hockey Team members that
appeared on cereal boxes and other treat boxes.
Cassie Campbell, Geraldine Heaney and Vicki Sunohara. I am in the process
of hopefully getting some of them autographed if anyone is interested.
Also within the next couple weeks we will have 8" x 10" action photos of the
Canadian Women's Team members at the Nagano Olympics. We may be able to get
some autographed as well.
For more Canadian Women's hockey team products checkout our website at
www.trytel.com/~klsport
If you have any special requests for items please send us a private email at
email@hidden
Karin Lofstrom
KL Sports
"sport source for women"
2746 Farriers Lane
Gloucester, Ontario
Canada K1T 1X8
fax: (613)739-3316
email: email@hidden
web: www.trytel.com/~klsport
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:38:25 -0500
From: Cindy Goodman
Subject: Beer Leagues
Yesterday in the Toronto Sun there was an article by Steve Buffery that said the Canadian women's national team is lagging behind the US program and that it will continue to do so unless Canadian Hockey officials do something to change this trend. There were a couple of quotes by Shannon Miller supporting this notion. One of the quotes in particular I found interesting. She said it's time to take our best players out of the "beer leagues". I can't speak for the western leagues but the AAA league in Ontario is far from a "beer league". In fact this year the Canadian women's National program almost completely destroyed the Central Ontario Women's League where 9 of the National team members normally play because they were all out in Calgary training. Why not have the training centered in Toronto where they could all play on different teams and still compete at a high level of competition instead of playing the US team over and over. I also don't believe for one minute that I woul!
d call the Quebec elite level league a "beer league". This type of labelling by Miss Miller doesn't do anything except shift the blame for what is really wrong with the women's program. I agree with her that the women's game is in need of some changes and that it's important to have good qualified coaches and managers in a position to teach our elite players. It would be nice to see some incentives to lure retired elite players to stay on and coach by offering them a proper coaching education. As opposed to learning everything on the job so to speak. And let's face it some people no matter how much education and experience they gain just don't have the right make up or judgement for the game no matter what.
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:30:44 -0800
From: Judi Stevens
Subject: RE: skating skills
Hi all,
Thanks for all the responses!! I assumed that you would know that the
girls would be wearing their HOCKEY skates with the figure skater. We have
used a figure skater in the past with the mites/squirts, working
specifically on edges and stopping - usually 4 wks. With the older groups,
working with a figure skater is totally out of the question.
Some of the rinks here offer 1/2 price or free public skating for those
signed up in the programs. This does give them the extra ice time but the
still need to learn how to skate.
Judi
- --
Thanks,
Judi Stevens
phone: 619-618-3921
fax: 619-618-1460
email: email@hidden
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:27:46 EST
From: Goneskatin
Subject: Re: Beer Leagues
Yada, yada Shannon Miller..........what I want to know is when and where
is the next "beer league" tryout. And will they discriminate against me if,
being Canadian, I drink American beer?
Terry <-----in training with Sam Adams
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:30:46 -0400
From: Debbie Minden
Subject: Re: Beer Leagues
>Yada, yada Shannon Miller..........what I want to know is when and where
>is the next "beer league" tryout. And will they discriminate against me if,
>being Canadian, I drink American beer?
>Terry <-----in training with Sam Adams
>
Terry,
If you are really a true-blue Canuck, how can you drink American swill? If
you recant now, you will receive a 'case two-four' de Bra'dor with a Crown
Royal chaser. (Now don't all you Yankees pretend to be Canadian to cash in
on this deal!)
- --Debbie
P.S. My husband says 'what's wrong with playing in a beer league?'
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:30:55 -0800
From: Don Howell
Subject: Re: Beer Leagues
>Royal chaser. (Now don't all you Yankees pretend to be Canadian to cash in
>on this deal!)
>--Debbie
>P.S. My husband says 'what's wrong with playing in a beer league?'
>
There is absolutely nothing wrong with "Beer Leagues"! As a matter of fact
l played some of my best hockey in "Beer Leagues". lf it hadn't been for
the beer l would have retired long before l did!:-)
l had a chance to get back home a couple of weeks ago and we played a game
in Windsor Ont.. We walked to the dressing rooms and there were empty beer
cases piled in the hall! God it made me homesick:-(
We need "Beer Leagues" to unite and rise up and not take this slight
without a fight. Beer leaguers deserve respect!
By the way l'll trade a case of Miller Genuine for a case of Export anyday!
A retired but proud "Beer Leaguer"
Don Howell
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:21:30 -0900
From: Syrilyn Tong
Subject: Re: better fitting pants?
Only if you don't sweat like a pig!! I used to wear them and I sweat
profusely, thus, they were extremely hot. But, I suppose if you don't have
my problem, they were very comfortable.
Syrilyn Tong
email@hidden
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:51:36 EST
From: Acroflyr
Subject: Re: Skating skills
I am a reformed roller skater myself. I used to skate on the old quad skates
way back when, and about 3 years ago started inline skating. This past fall I
began ice skating.
Initially I was very humbled by my lack of skill on the ice, but actually
within just a couple of weeks I was able to do most of what I had been doing
on inlines on the ice. The crossover, forward, and backward skating came along
pretty quickly. The only glitch I have had is trying to hockey stop to the
right. For some reason I just have a harder time in that direction.
For the most part though it has fallen into place well. Whatever you are able
to do now on inlines, you should be able to do on ice skates with some ice
time.
My .02 cents
C. White
Good luck
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:12:04 EST
From: CammiFan21
Subject: Re: Cereal Box Covers
This is what im going to do. Buy 4 boxes take the cereal out of all the
boxes. Flatten two keep two in the box shape. Take them to fast frame and
get 'em framed
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:07:39 -0600 (CST)
From: heather bremer
Subject: Equipment Problem!
I am a freshman at the University of Illinois and plan on playing on our
intramural team next year. Since it's the first year that I'll be playing
I don't know much about equipment. I was recently told by a girl that is
currently on the team that I don't need to buy equipment that is made for
women. The only thing that she suggests getting was a pelvic protector.
I would think that I would want to get women's shoulder pads as well.
Anyone have any advice regarding equipment I should be getting? (Brands,
styles, etc.) I'd really appreciate your response. Thanks!
Heather
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:30:54 EST
From: LuvCLemx22
Subject: Re: Equipment Problem!
In a message dated 98-03-12 23:32:38 EST, email@hidden writes:
<< The only thing that she suggests getting was a pelvic protector.
I would think that I would want to get women's shoulder pads as well.
Anyone have any advice regarding equipment I should be getting? (Brands,
styles, etc.) I'd really appreciate your response. Thanks!
>>
She's right, you certainly don't need "Women's" equipment, much of your
decision might depend on your size and build. I wear Junior Med pants and
they fit perfectly in almost every brand I've ever tried, but I am pretty
small - 4'11" 98 lbs. If you have more of an hourglass figure, I have heard
that the Women's pants fit better. I've seen one of the women's chest
protectors "Cooper" and I was not impressed, it wasn't protective and
substantial enough for me. I have a "thing" for heavy duty protective
equipment and since you are a beginner, I would suggest that if you can afford
it. I just bought Eastons top of the line Pro series shoulder pads/chest
protector and although I'm sure I look like ROBOCOP in it, I don't care, it
affords me maximum protection. Good Luck!
Jackie
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