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Women-in-Hockey Digest Thursday, June 25 1998 Volume 01 : Number 235
In this issue:
helmet causing skin irritations
Great practice
Hockey in London
Creutzfeldt-Jakob-Disease and HGH and Athletes
Re: helmet causing skin irritations
Admin note on mail problems with AOL.
Re: Re: helmet causing skin irritations
Re: London Teams
Women vs. Men coaching etc.
Re: Mail order hockey gear?
ME
Re: Mail Order Hockey Gear
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:05:49 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: helmet causing skin irritations
I know this was discussed once before, but I don't remember what was said
about it or anything. Since I've recently started indoor inline hockey, I've
needed to upgrade to an approved helmet and a face mask, before I used a
cheapy unaprroved Jofa and never had problems with it now. Since playing
indoor, my forehead and chin have been breaking out, so how can I
prevent/treat/whatever this?
Jennie
wanted #29, but the jerseys only went to 10, so for now #8 on the Blackeyes
(yea I know, dumb name, but its better than shootin pucks in the basement)
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:22:35 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Great practice
I just got home from an unusual practice and I'm so happy that I had to share
with someone. I went to stick and puck at the rink with my friend (who is
also a goalie) not knowing that there were two sessions. After the first one,
my friend couldn't stay, but i decided to, anyway. I was out there for a bit
kinda keeping to myself cause it seemed like everyone else knew each other
there, but then one of my coaches came up to me and wanted to know if I could
stay an extra hour. So, I decided to stay. It turned out that he was running
a semi-advanced adult hockey class, and he thought that I could benefit from
staying, and he was one goalie short for the scrimmage at the end of class.
The other goalie and I were talking the whole time, he was helping me with
positioning and the sort. During the scrimmage when either the other goalie
or I made a nice save someone would always tell us, which made me feel SOO
good considering I'm still learning, and any little thing helps my confidence.
After, in the locker room, we were all talking, and it was so nice to have a
normal conversation in the locker room without the put-downs and cracks that
ususally occur among players my age (Bantam/Midget), or at least the one's
I've had experience with... AND, they invited me to drop by next Tuesday
because they usually have only one goalie and would like to have me join them.
I'm so happy! It was great. I enjoyed playing with then so much more than my
normal teammates. Anyway, like I said, I'm just really in a good mood right
now and I tend to talk a lot when I'm happy, so I'll spare you having to read
anything more and finish here.
Amy =]
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:19:57 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Hockey in London
Does anyone have any info of any women's ice hockey teams in London, England?
I just found out that I'm most likely going to be in London on business for
about 2 weeks around New Years. I'd love to hook up with a team that would
take a drop in either for a game or 2 or even just for a practice.
I'm just happy that I have all this time to research & plan in advance.
I'm gonna go through withdrawal symptoms (irritablility, crankiness, and bouts
of nastiness) if I go that long wihtout playing!!
Thanks.
Jill
# 77 Brooklyn Blades
"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires." - or, as (I'd imagaine) they say in
England - "Only you can prevent hockey stick fires, mate. Cheers."
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:05:00 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Creutzfeldt-Jakob-Disease and HGH and Athletes
Please excuse me if this is a duplicate post.
I want to make you aware that athletes who used cadaver-derived Human
Gonadotrophin Hormones (HGH) in the past are at high risk of developing
Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD), the horrendous infectious fatal brain-
deteriorating disease. Physicians used cadaver-derived HGH until sometime in
1985 when people who had been treated with it as children developed CJD.
Since then they have used a synthetic HGH. However, there are reports that
athletes have used cadaver-derived HGH since 1985. (See end of e-mail). I
would ask you to please make other women in hockey aware of the danger of
getting CJD as a result of the use of cadaver-derived HGH. Also, I'd be
interested in hearing of any CJD cases you know of among athletes.
Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) has greater public health consequences than
the mere number of reported case might lead one to believe because it is not a
reportable disease in most places, is often misdiagnosed, is infectious and is
not killed by normal sterilization. CJD is a horrendious infectious fatal
brain-deteriorating disease for which there is no treatment or cure. It is
caused by a prion, which is a protein. One strain of CJD (nvCJD, i.e. new
variant CJD) is linked to bovine spongiform encephalopathy (i.e. Mad Cow
Disease) in England. CJD is more common than reported. In one study of
Alzheimer patients 13% when autopsied were found to really have CJD.
In the United States and throughout the world people get CJD through 3 means:
familial (genetic), sporadic (don't know how) and iatrogenic (through a
medical procedure such as human pitutitary growth hormones and human
gonadotrophin fertility treatments received in 1985 and before, contaminated
surgical equipment and dura mater and cornea transplants.) CJD can take
decades after exposure for the patient to show symptoms. However, once a
person shows symptoms their decline is rapid and they die within a year of
first showing symptoms.
CJD should be considered whenever a patient develops a rapid dementia and
myoclonus. The initial symptoms are subtle and ambiguous and include insomnia,
depression, confusion, personality and behavioral changes, strange physical
sensations, and memory, coordination and visual problems. Rapidly
progressive dementia and usually myoclonus (involuntary, irregular jerking
movements) develop as CJD progresses. Also, language, sight, muscular
weakness, and coordination problems worsen. The patient may appear startled
and become rigid. In the final stage the patient loses all mental and physical
functions. The patient may lapse into a coma and usually dies from an
infection like pneumonia precipitated by the bedridden, unconscious state. The
duration of CJD from the onset of symptoms to death is usually one year of
less. A 14-3-3 spinal fluid test is over 95% effective in diagnosing CJD when
symptoms are present. (For information on the test contact Dr Clarence
Joseph Gibbs, Jr.; National Institutes of Health, (30l) 496-4821 or 6321.)
CJD patients often die at home and therefore have home health service and have
family members as caregivers.
Since early signs of CJD are often psychological, victims will often receive
psychological treatment as either an in-patient or an outpatient. In
addition, people, including school-age children of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease
victims who die in their 40s or younger, often require counseling to deal with
the death. And, then there's the recipients of medical treatments such as
human pituitary growth hormones and dura mater transplants who are at high
risk of CJD and the people with a genetic mutation for familial CJD who must
live with CJD hangiing over their heads. Another group includes people who
receive withdrawal notices that the blood they or, worst yet, their children,
received came from a pool which included a donor that died of CJD. While the
question of whether CJD is passed through blood products is yet to be
resolved, receiving this type of notice causes great
anxiety in people.
Also, since normal sterilization methods do no kill the CJD infectious agent
and, it can therefore be spread by surgical instruments, it is more of a
danger to public health than mere number of cases would suggest..
Whether CJD is spread by human blood is controversial,. Many people get
transfusions every year. Pooled blood products are withdrawn as a precaution
if it is found after the product has been released that a person in the donor
pool has died of CJD of is at higher risk of contracting CJD. However, by
this point it has often already been used in humans. Many people such as
hemophilliacs and Alpha !-Antitrypsin Deficency sufferers use blood products
constantly to maintain their health and therefore, receive many withdrawal
notices. In additon, many people get gammaglobulin shots. Also, while the
controversy remains as to whether CJD can be passed through blood products,
blood products continue to be used as an ingredient in vaccines such as the
measles-mumps-rubella, rabies and allergy shots; in InVitro Fertilization
(IVF) cultures; and in medical test fluids.
Even though people have recieved notices that the blood products they were
given have been withdrawn due to CJD risk they can still donate blood. Also,
England recently decided to not use its own people to get blood plasma any
more and to get blood plasma from other countries due to fears of nvCJD (the
CJD related to Mad Cow Disease) being transmitted through blood. Yet people
from England can donate blood in the United States and Canada. At the end of
this e-mail I have included the U. S. Congressional Mandate requesting the
Centers for Disease Control to conduct a study to assess whether the CJD
infectious agent is spread through blood products.
CJD Voice is an e-mail discussion group. Most members have lost a loved one
to CJD or currently have a loved one with CJD. Other members include people
who took human pituitary growth hormones as children and therefore are at
higher risk of getting CJD and people who received notices that the blood
products their children received were from a pool that included a person who
died from CJD. It provides support to these people as well as tries to
increase funding for CJD research so treatments and a cure can be found. The
CJD webpage has a message board, chat room, links to other websites with CJD
information and a list of CJD researchers accepting financial contributions.
The address for the CJD Voice Webpage is
http://members.aol.com/larmstr853/cjdvoice/cjdvoice.htm
Please feel free to visit the website and to refer other people to it.
Feel free to distribute this information to whomever you choose.
email@hidden
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Creutzfeldt-Jakob
Disease Program
A Congressional Mandate
In response to concerns that CJD may be transmitted through blood or
blood products, the U.S. Congress requested that the
CDC conduct a study to assess whether CJD is a threat to the safety of
the nation's blood supply. Researchers believe that
the risk of transmission to humans through blood products is very
small since there have been no known cases of CJD
contracted by humans in this manner. However, precautions are being
taken to assure that the blood supply is safe from this
infectious agent. Current blood safety policy requires that any blood
products made from blood donated by a person who
later develops CJD, or is found to have risk factors for CJD, must be
withdrawn. Until the question of transmissibility is
resolved, the availability and the price of blood products will
continue to be adversely impacted by shortages caused by
recalls and the destruction of blood products which, to date, has cost
over $100 million.
The Program: How You Can Help
Because the signs and symptoms of CJD may not develop for up to 30
years, a person could be infected and not show any
symptoms during his or her lifetime. Furthermore, there is no
screening test available for CJD and the only sure way to test
for CJD is by analyzing brain tissue after death. The CJD program asks
families of individuals who have received blood
products to donate brain tissue after their death. The brain tissue
will be shipped to Stephen J. Armond, M.D., Ph.D.,
Professor of Neuropathology, University of California, San Francisco
to test for evidence of CJD. Other brain tissue will be
stored at CDC in Atlanta for analysis in the future when more is known
about the cause of CJD.
Participation in the CJD program is voluntary. The CDC is aware that
the death of a family member is a difficult time to make
important decisions. Therefore, the CDC is working through your
regional coordinator, physician, and treatment center staff to
provide support to you and your family as you discuss brain tissue
donation. To help with making an informed and rational
decision, the CDC has developed information packets which answer
commonly asked questions about the program including:
how to authorize the donation; how confidentiality will be assured;
the ability to retrieve the brain tissue without disfigurement
and without affecting funeral arrangements; and the time frame for
receiving test results.
HGH and Athletes Articles
Almond, Elliott and Cart, Julie. The new danger of HGH: The drug that athletes
take that may have killer virus. Los Angeles Times July 28, 1985, Section IX,
page 20.
Deyssig, Roman and Frisch, Herwig. Self-administration of cadaveric growth
hormone to power athletes. The Lancet 1993; 341: 768-769.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:16:49 -0700
From: email@hidden (Megan Bryant)
Subject: Re: helmet causing skin irritations
I think "Kiss my face" soap was mentioned as a good after-game facial cleanser.
Also, airing out your helmet and cleaning it periodically is a good thing.
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Megan Bryant
Rhythm & Hues
310 446 7551
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:27:20 -0700
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Admin note on mail problems with AOL.
Hi, folks. The plaidworks list moms here.
Starting about a week ago, we started having problems sending mail to,
and receiving mail from, AOL. The problem was not ours, and the problem
was not AOL's. It was somewhere out in the middle of the net. It was a
problem affecting all customers of my ISP (and possibly a larger group
of networks, we still don't know for sure), and there were also some
outages and delays to other parts of the network, including hotmail.
The bottom line is, though, that basicaly no e-mail sent FROM AOL got
to plaidworks i the last week, and until yesterday, very little got
out.
We tracked down the site causing the problem Tuesday night and got them
to confirm the problem, and then they disappeared on us again, so with
the help of my ISP, we implemented what can only be termed a detour
around the outage, allowing us to route mail around the blockage. This
allowed us to SEND all of the pending AOL mail starting Wednesday
(which is why all of you on AOL got it in a big gulp). we also
implemented a similar detour for incoming mail, but for technical
reasons, it takes longer for that to be recognized by other internet
sites -- the incoming detour started working sometime about 2AM this
morning, allowing mail to flow.
That's why everyone on the lists is seeing bunches of AOL mail, some of
it fairly old, posted to the lists this morning.
And the good news (I guess) is that about three hours after the detours
were finally fully in place, they finally fixed the network, because
(yawn) when I woke up this morning, things seem to be working normally
again. We're leaving all of the detours in place we need them again,
but we're hoping this is done.
Many thanks to the folks at Znet (www.znet.com) for help trying to fix
all of this, and working with us to get things flowing despite the
problems. We seem to be returning to normal, but you can expect to see
delayed messages from AOL today, and for AOL people, we apologize for
the outages, even though it wasn't our fault (we're still not sure
who's fault it is... we *think* it was a misconfigured router inside
att.net, but don't have confirmation).
Anyway, I felt everyone ought to get an update on it, both because all
of you on AOL were getting lots of silence and a few bounced emails to
us, and because the rest of you are getting a big batch of delayed mail
all at once...
And I'm glad it got back up in time for the drafts...
chuq
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Chuq Von Rospach (Hockey fan? )
Apple Mail List Gnome (mailto:email@hidden)
Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:email@hidden)
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:18:22 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Re: helmet causing skin irritations
I use witch hazel. It's a mild and astrigent. You can get it with aloe in it
too. It won't dry your face out and it's cheaper than any name brand
cleansers.
Also, keeping your helmet clean is a good place to start. Hot hot water and
antibacterial soap will do the job.
:>
good luck.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:23:08 -0700
From: email@hidden (Megan Bryant)
Subject: Re: London Teams
Andria Hunter has a list of teams in England.
I have links to all of these teams on my page too, at:
http://www.rhythm.com/~oblio/europe.html
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Basingstoke Lady Bison
http://www.lossy.demon.co.uk/hockey/
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Chelmsford Cobras
http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~sonic/cobras.html
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Guildford Lightning
http://www.catalog.com/cgibin/var/hockey/LIGHTNING-HOCKEY/welcome.htm
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Oxford City Zodiacs
http://www.brookes.ac.uk/~p0071480/zodiacs.htm
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Oxford University Women's Ice Hockey
http://www.brookes.ac.uk/~p0071480/ouwihc.htm
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Slough Phantoms
http://www.lossy.demon.co.uk/hockey/slough
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ENGLISH ICE HOCKEY ASSOCIATION
http://www.ice-hock.demon.co.uk/
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Megan Bryant
Rhythm & Hues
310 446 7551
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:49:58 -0400
From: Morris Winchevsky Centre
Subject: Women vs. Men coaching etc.
I've noticed that the battle of the sexes coaching debate has quieted down
lately, but I just wanted to add some thoughts on the issue. Without
responding specifically to any of the comments that were already listed,
these are just my general thoughts on the matter.
I am a believe stongly in equal opportunities for men and women. And this
carries through to the hockey aswell. As a player for 18 years, and on
approximately 20 teams I have had women as coaches on 2 on those teams. I
think it's great that there are men who are coaching and involved in
women's hockey who are doing someing to improve and expand the development
of the game. Even though I hate to say it, having men involved is for some
people the only this that gives women's hockey validity. However, on the
occations that I have had women coaches, instructors and referees it felt
much more appropriate and comfortable. It's unfortunatly that these women
experience such severe scrutiny. Just think of the microscope that Shannon
Miller and the women refs for all the women's world tounaments were under.
It reminds me of that old saying "A woman had to work twice as hard to be
considered half as good"
On a personal note, I've been wanted to coach hockey for a while now, and I
had been struggling with the decision of weather to coach a girls team or a
boys team. Well after reading all of your comments and thining long and
hard, I've come to the decision to coach girls. I think it is an exciting
time for young girls to be starting hockey, they will be surrounded by
women coaches, conveniors, refs and role models. All of which were
positions filled by men when I was starting out.
I am very grateful to all the men who have coached, instucted and refed me
in the past. It was obviously a good experience (most of the time) to keep
me playing to this day. But it's very exciting and I'm thrilled that
women's hockey is giving opportunities no more than just women hockey
players. After all it's not like women have opportunities for coaching and
reffing in men's hockey.
Elissa Hermolin
#33 Coyotes
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:02:52 -0400
From: Andria Hunter
Subject: Re: Mail order hockey gear?
>Hi! I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good, reputable mail
>order hockey source in the USA/Canada?
Here is the address for the "Mostly Hockey" store in Barrie, Ontario.
I buy my equipment from their location in Scarborough, Ontario.
http://www.mhbhockey.com/
Andria
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:10:36 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: ME
Hi Everyone-
I'm new to this list. My name is Liz. I'm 15. I play Ice Hockey for my
school. The Champlin Park Rebels. I'm a goalie. On the J.V team. Supposedly
Varsity too. But we all know how that goes. Lets see theres not much else
about me except the fact that I idolize Sarah Tueting. Well Anyways thanx for
listening to me babble!
Luv,
Liz
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:23:24 -0700
From: Maura Grogan
Subject: Re: Mail Order Hockey Gear
I just ordered new skates and face shield from Cyclone Taylor and was very
pleased with the prices and service. Their website is
www.cyclonetaylor.com. If you do a search under hockey equipment on the
web you'll find all sorts of options. Good luck! Maura.
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