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Women-in-Hockey Digest Tuesday, June 23 1998 Volume 01 : Number 233
In this issue:
Re[2]: Coaching
Re: Coaching: Men vs Women
Re: Re[2]: Coaching
Re: Re[2]: Coaching
Hockey School for Adults run by Angela James
Women's Open Inline Tournament - July 17-19 - Seattle
Autograph Cassie Campbell Photos
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 07:56:22 -0500
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re[2]: Coaching
I too would feel very abused in your sitaution.
However, you have to recognize the arena you are addressing - women
involved with ice hockey. If you glanced at a list of ocupations
represtented on any women's ice hockey team, you would see doctors,
lawyers, engineers, scientists, police officers, fire fighters, computer
specialists -- in short, you would see women who have forged their ways
in fields that traditionally have been *very* women unfriendly. If we
had all just bagged it and just decided to do something easier, some
field where we didn't find resistance, hostitilty, duplicity,
discrimination - where would we and our daughters find themselves today?
Certainly not on the ice!
So, while we are all very sorry that these things have happened to some
of the dedicated male coaches on this list, I think you have to be able
to look at these experiences from our perspective - which is, "that's too
bad, it shouldn't have happened, but it did, so what are you going to do
now?"
Jan.
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:55:31 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Coaching: Men vs Women
In a message dated 6/17/98 9:10:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, email@hidden
writes:
<< You're sending out a lot of mixed signals here Jill.
i.e. it certainly can't hurt to walk a mile in someone else's shoes?
don't just sit there and whine about it?
-----Original Message----- >>
You are taking these TOTALLY out of context. Go back, read the entire mail,
in order, and try again. It does make sense.
Jill
# 77 Brooklyn Blades
"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:54:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian John Rodgers
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Coaching
Obviously, because i chose to work within the field of women's hockey, I
am very aware of the challenges met and overcome by women to ppush the
sport into the position of success it is now enjoying.
I actually enjoyed the prospect of working with women as, based on my own
experiences in competitive male hockey, as the sport did not yet seemed
bogged down in the politics that are embedded in the male side of the
sport. Women seemed to play the game for the love of the sport, as all
sports should be played, yet the game was not governed by exogenous
factors so dominant in male hockey....success there equates with the
possible earning of big dollars, and the cultural currency of being good
at a sport so representative of CDN. culture. The idea of playing the game
because you love it gets lost to both parents and players. Not in all
cases, but certainly in any.
Working in women's hockey seemed to be a place where the idea of
participating in a sport for enjoyment seemed to be the foremost issue. I
am very aware that the pioneers of women's hockey had to fight hard in a
male doninated sector to bring the game up to the level that it currently
enjoys. I realise true equality is still a long way off...but the game is
getting there.
But, to be a male working in this field now is not at all similar to being
a female trying to break the hold of male domination.
When I first became involved in the sport, and i have worked at 2 of the
highest echelons of women's hockey, I always felt that I was perhaps
taking
the spot a woman should fill. I knew I had the right qualifications, but
felt that my presence may inhibit the progress of women that wanted to go
further in the coaching area of the sport.
That is why I do not feel as though it would be right to try to fight to
aintain my position. If I truly respect the position of females, and I
have worked hard to promote the sport, to act as any kind of roadblock to
a females success would seem to me to be counter productive to my initial
goal.
My complaint is that the powers that be who were in part responsible for
deciding my fate do not have the best intentions at heart. They ony wish
to
pay lip service to the idea of equality, certainly not pay money...
In my positon, I feel the best move I can make is to step down and let
deserving women enjoy coaching at the higher levels of the sport.
But, the attitude of those making these decisons are not truly made in the
best interests fo the sport, rather they are made to avoid having to deal
with the true isssues of equality...and in my mind that means paying
varsity women coaches the same as men...they work as hard for no monetary
reward.
In short, I am not in a position to break down barriers, I have been put
in a position where I have perhaps become a barrier. So, to try to compare
a man's position in this case to the women that have worked hard to remove
barriers in other walks of life is a knee jerk reaction that does not fit.
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:03:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian John Rodgers
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Coaching
I want to make it clear taht my postings are not intended in the least to
make any kind of statement that sounds as though I feel sorry for myself;
rather, I am trying to point out that if the sport is really going to get
equal treatment, it must mean more than just putting women in jobs held by
men. If the school I worked for really wanted a top notch program and
feamle coach, they would pay to get one. Part of my desire not to fight
for my job is that I do not feel I or anyone else woman or man should work
for as many hours as the program currently demands for next to no pay.
As for what I am going to do now...lots of things, I feel I have made a
decent contribution to the sport of women's hockey, I feel proud of what I
have done, and will continue to support it at different levels, and hope
that girls continue to play for the love of the game...and that the sport
can maitain its beauty in the face of the pressure that has worked to
erode the male game. Good Luck!
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:37:47 -0400
From: Andria Hunter
Subject: Hockey School for Adults run by Angela James
Angela James (former Team Canada member) of Breakaway Sports directs a
hockey camp that is offered specificly for adults (either women or
men). Breakaway offers 1.5 hour sessions once a week (in the evening)
for eight weeks during the months of July and August. It's a great way
to get ready for the upcoming hockey season!
If you're interested, please see their web pages at:
http://www.whockey.com/school/breakaway/
Fill out and mail the registration form (print it from the web page) as
soon as possible because the classes are filling quickly. If you need
more information, you can contact Breakaway Sports at 416-494-5545.
Here is some information from the web page:
BREAKAWAY SPORTS INC. offers summer courses geared toward improving
adult skating and hockey sills. Directed by Angela James, four time
World Hockey Champion, and our staff have an outstanding record of
delivering high quality instruction to both the male and female,
novice to advanced hockey enthusiast!
CLASSES are Monday, Wednesday, or Thursday evenings, 8 weeks from
July to August, with each session being 90 minutes of on-ice
instruction. Teach/student ratio is 1:10. Sweaters are included.
Cost is $170 plus GST. The hockey school operates out of the
Seneca College arena in North York (just north of Toronto).
Andria Hunter
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 15:45:00 -0700
From: "HARRIS, zharris"
Subject: Women's Open Inline Tournament - July 17-19 - Seattle
Seattle In-Line Arena's Challenge Cup In-line Hockey Tournament
Women's Open Division
Must be USA Hockey member team
July 17-19
Seattle, WA
$300 per team
$150 deposit holds your spot
3 game guarantee
Call (206) 937-1201 for more details
Come check out the beautiful city of Seattle and play some hockey!
We are the city of outdoors (hike, bike, sail, sunbathe!, ski, etc),
coffee, microbrews and more! Hope you can make it!
email@hidden
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:44:29 -0400
From: Karin Lofstrom
Subject: Autograph Cassie Campbell Photos
If you are interested on bidding on a Cassie Campbell autographed
photo in her red Olympic Team uniform please checkout the web site
address below.
For other women's hockey team photos and products please checkout the KL Sports web site at
www.trytel.com/~klsport
Also we have Vicky Sunohara autographed photos and will be able to fill requests for most Canadian Team players if you are interested in purchasing signed hockey cards or photos. Please email us direct at email@hidden
Karin
KL Sports
"sport source for women"
2746 Farriers Lane
Gloucester, Ontario
Canada K1T 1X8
fax: (613)739-3316
email: email@hidden
website: www.trytel.com/~klsport
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