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Women-in-Hockey Digest Wednesday, January 7 1998 Volume 01 : Number 094
In this issue:
Re: roller vs. ice
Re: roller vs. ice
Roller vs. Ice
Re: roller vs. ice
Calgary
roller & ice
Re: roller & ice
ICE HOCKEY IN SACRAMENTO
roller hockey
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Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 08:46:37 -0600
From: Meg Ewen
Subject: Re: roller vs. ice
Regarding roller vs ice hockey, the biggest difference is stopping. I
have not tried to hockey stop on roller blades yet and I don't find my
self doing big circle stops on ice, so mechanically I'm ok there and I
play both regularly, many times both in the same week. I really haven't
found myself doing things incorrectly in either sport, but I could see
things like, off sides causing confusion ( I mentally play ice rules all
the time if possible, so I won't screw up). I can puck handle in roller
hockey much better than ice, but I go much faster on ice (due to the
ability to stop on a dime). I like both, but ice takes precedence.
Meg #4 Phantoms
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:57:34, -0500
From: email@hidden (BOBBIE STANFILL)
Subject: Re: roller vs. ice
Please, tie up the list! I'm 41+, skated on quads years ago, bought myself
hockey ice skates last Mother's day & have been on them about 6 times. For
Cmas, my present was inlines with full hockey gear! There's about 6 of us
who want to start an over-20 women's team once we get steady on our feet.
Inlines probably, because ice is severely lacking here in north Texas.
Goalie-son has been told by his private coach to stop playing inlines for
awhile, as the moves are different. You can't slide
sideways on wheels, and getting up from the floor is slower because you
can't "dig" into the surface. But basic rules and motions are the same for
both...don't fall down, get up when you do, play the puck/ball, and watch
your back.
bobbie, goaliemom in texas, no daughters, but a 15yo son who's encouraging
ME to play
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> How do people who play both find the transition between the two? I
guess I have a
lot of questions about this and would welcome any advice - email me
privately at email@hidden if you don't want to tie up the list.
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:27:23 -0600 (CST)
From: email@hidden (daun defrance)
Subject: Roller vs. Ice
I made the transition from roller to ice about 6 months ago. Since that
time, I have watched many people do it and these are my impressions. The
difference between roller hockey and ice hockey is similar to the difference
between men's and women's lacrosse. They are two different sports and
probably should be approached as such. Just because you are good at tennis
doesn't mean you will master raquetball overnight. This may sound
pessimistic, but I have seen many frustrated roller hockey advanced players
go out to an ice pick up and expect to be in their old form.
The largest difference in the skating (in my opinion) is the stopping and
the speed. A "hockey stop" is much easier on ice, where the contact between
the blades and the ice surface does allow some lateral movement. Rubber on
sport court is not as forgiving. The roller puck is much lighter, passes
slower and lighter, and shots softer. No offense to roller hockey, I've
caught some plastic pucks in my day and they HURT! :)
I have found that the biggest adjustment from roller to ice comes from
timing and that pesky offsides rule in ice hockey. Oh yes, playing
five-on-five with a center takes some getting used to as well. I have seen
a lot of roller hockey players play with full ice pads but it's not the "in"
thing to do and it can be very hot. Ice pads would be overprotective for
roller hockey, so it's legal to wear ice pads on the court but not to wear
roller pads on the ice. When in doubt, buy ice.
And now I'll return to my men's versus women's lacrosse simile. Roller
hockey is like women's lacrosse, "no" contact and geared toward a more
unrestricted flow of the play with passes to advance the play instead of
cradling through a couple of defensemen. Ice hockey, even in novice league
play, is much more physical. I've seen lots of roller guys start whining
about getting bumped or checked. There is a "code" of conduct that
eliminates open court hitting in roller. Not so in ice. Women's lacrosse
is "no" contact. I say that in quotes because women still whack the hell
out of each other only now they're not wearing pads.
The advice I tell would-be hockey players is to decide which is more
convenient (rink location, cost, amount of playing time) and stick with that
game for a couple of months to get the fundamentals. Timing is everything
in these sports and even after playing both I still whiff on one-timers
whenever I stray back to roller. It's easier to learn timing and skating
fundamentals if you are consistent with your program. In the meantime,
while you are developing muscle memory, watch the other sport on tv or go to
open skates to slowly work that into your program. Just because you're
playing ice doesn't mean you have to ignore roller of vice versa. Even
though you are not learning the sports simultaneously, I believe that you
will improve at a more consistant rate and be a stronger player at both in
the long run. It takes a unique player that can lace up for a drop-in ice
game and then head over to a roller league game afterwards. It takes time
but it also takes a committment to the fundamentals.
Sorry for rambling. I've got way too much time on my hands until the spring
semester starts. :)
Daun
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Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 10:05:21 -0800
From: Michelle Svatos
Subject: Re: roller vs. ice
I have quit playing roller while learning ice (for ~ 1 year)
because I felt there were several habits I learned in roller that
were a problem.
First, of course, is the stopping and speed control.
The last thing you want to do in ice hockey is be making wide turns
to stop or slow -- it is inefficient and you will be forever behind
the play and tend to overskate the puck. To me, ice hockey skates just
have more precise control with their 2 blade edges, and the game
requires
you master them -- love it or hate it!
Also, it seems alot of roller teams I know (and I have no idea how
general this is in other places) have fewer people per team, so
that line changes do not happen as frequently... as a result, you
need to skate longer shifts. This means that the workout is of
a different nature; I guess better endurance but lower intensity.
Anyway, I've learned that nothing makes my ice teammmates more
exasperated than someone skating at a reduced intensity for a long
time -- they want 60-90 second shifts full out! So for me, there
is a different rhythm to the workout and I had to train my brain to
think correspondingly.
That said, once you are really good at either of them, I bet these
differences aren't so much of a problem. It's getting there that is
the hard part, I think.
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Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 10:31:19 -0500
From: Madeleine Oldham
Subject: Calgary
does anyone have any information on Calgary April Ice this year?
- -madeleine
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:52:52 -0500
From: "Kristen M. Ede"
Subject: roller & ice
At first, I found going from roller hockey back to ice hockey very awkward.
After a few weeks playing rollerhockey for the first time last summer, I
almost fell on my butt when I stepped on the ice for a summer hockey game.
I was very surprised that my ice skates felt so unstable. My teammate (who
played roller hockey with me) & I exchanged looks of amazement as we
cautiously skated around the rink, getting back the feel of the ice skates.
(The length of the skate blade that you actually skate on is much shorter
on ice skates than rollerblades, especially if you have your ice skates
rockered). As well, there was a definite hesitation to stop suddenly and I
found myself circling more like I do in rollerhockey.
After a few more weeks of playing both games, the transition was getting
easier. I was able to separate the two styles of skating.
For me, roller hockey was good off-season conditioning. It kept up the
strength in my quad muscles and increased the strength in my groin muscles.
Because my rollerblades were heavier, my speed seemed to increase on my
relatively lighter ice skates. Since I wasn't able to rely on my skating
as much in rollerhockey, I was forced to practice more puck handling &
dekking moves that also improved my ice hockey game.
Just my two cents worth....(thats 1/2 cent in U.S.$$)
Kristen
Thunder Bay Blades
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:01:33 EST
From: Jen29H
Subject: Re: roller & ice
I don't play ice, but I want to get my word in here somewhere, I'd feel left
out otherwise. Last year was my first season for roller hockey, or any other
hockey for that matter, other than the floor and field hockey games in gym,
and the games with my brother and 2 other kids. At the clinic, where they just
wanted to see how good we were so they didn't have 1 team with all good
players and another team with players that had never played before, I was
pretty nervous, and I was not used to my new skates. I should mention that
this was a 6 week rec league, played in a parking lot (that needed to be
swept, and was a little unlevel) right next to the lake. It wasn't very big
either. there would be 2 practices a week and then a game on saturday. I
showed up at my first practice and I was nervous again, after I tied my skates
and put the helmet on, I stepped off the grass into the parking lot, lost my
balance and fell. sure I'd skated many times before that and fell a lot too,
but I felt like such an idiot, and that didn't help my nervousness. My first
game, in front of people, I had an assist. Anyways throughout the 6 weeks I
was getting pretty good, and could actually skate while in control of the
ball. Still I crashed a lot, partly because I couldn't find an effective way
to stop, and secondly because sometimes while turning I'd get tripeed up. Sure
I came home with a torn up thigh once or twice, but I'm pretty used to that.
When you play 2 on 2 on a country road (it is paved) you get used to diving
into things. Whoa I'm getting way of track. One more thing, the only other
girl in the league was on the same team as me, so it was pretty cool.
It was in a parking lot as I told you, so it was pavement, which is a lot
harder on the wheels. We played with a ball, which I think is a lot harder to
play with, I'd much rather use a roller hockey puck, even if they do hurt a
lot more, Except in this league we probably wouldn't use the really hard
ones(like the anti gravity ones with metal disks in them) Its probably a good
thing we didn't I got hit in the face with the ball twice, both times during
practice. The setup was really messed up, they need somebody that knows what
they're doing. There were 3 people out per team at a time, 2 forwards and 1
defense, including one of those plastic goalie things with the 5 holes, with
about 9 people per team. Each shift was 2 minutes long, I think that was like
the league rule or something so everybody got equal playing time. There were 2
halfs, I dunno, how long they were, all I know is the game couldn't go over
and hour. There was maybe a foot high little plastic border thing so the ball
didn't roll out every 5 seconds, none of the lines were drawn, not even a
crease line. And then they yelled at you if you were too close to the goal,
which made me made, it doesn't take more than 30 seconds to take a piece of
chalk out and draw a crease in front of the goal. There were penalties, and it
was no contact. Of course when somebody did get hit they never noticed.
Stopping is definetly hard, but I think itd be a lot easier on the sport
court stuff. I'm not sure of course since I've never played. About switching
from ice to roller, I dunno. Guys in the NHL do it, Mark Messier was in one of
the pro leagues during the summer.
Well I should end this, because I'm rambling, and I'm not sure if half
of its on track, but hey its hockey, and I guess thats all that really
matters.
Jennie Hawks
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Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 19:01:19 -0800
From: Mimi and Julie
Subject: ICE HOCKEY IN SACRAMENTO
If anyone is in the Sacramento (CA) area and would like to play women's
ice hockey, we now have "Skatetown". Our first slot is this Sunday,
January 11, @ 5 p.m. In the future we will have Friday nights at 9:45
p.m.
If you would like additional information, please e-mail me.
Thanks,
Julie
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 10:33:13 -0800
From: Tammie Weigl
Subject: roller hockey
I grew up in NJ and ice-skated/played hockey for about 10 years in my
youth (I'm now 35).
When I moved to the West Coast in '88, my husband and I got into
roller-blading and roller hockey, mainly in pick up games--very loose
and informal. I found the first few weeks very frustating, mainly due
to the things that have been mentioned previously, stopping and turning
differences. But as Jennie points out, you can learn, if you don't mind
a few cement wipe outs and bruises. I only gave up playing four years
ago due to the birth of my two kids, and hope to get back into shape to
play again this summer.
On the topic of roller hockey sticks. I never liked the KMART/Toys R US
Franklins. The people my husband and I used to play with all used
Titan ice hockey sticks with Fiberglass re-inforced blades. I still
have my stick and I prefer the weight and the feel of it over the normal
roller hockey stick. I've never tried the CCM brand, but a friend of
mine back east recommended them out of all the roller hockey specific
brands.
And as for all the recommendations on skates, Thanks to Everyone! I am
really psyched about getting back into the game, even with my rusty
skills!
Tammie
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