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Women-in-Hockey Digest Friday, February 13 1998 Volume 01 : Number 129
In this issue:
hockey, of course
minnesota hockey
Re: commercials
Re: hockey, of course
Re: Luge and Hockey/ TV Coverage
Re: Need some advice
Re: commercials
ice hockey in Portland, OR
American Collegiate Championship
Re: Need some advice
Nat'l Championship Tix.
Re: Need some advice
Re: Need some advice
breaking in skates.....
Is CBC broadcasting the game live?
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:17:25 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: hockey, of course
Women's hockey and the olympics is great and all, but watching the games and
interviews is awesome, all except for one thing. They all have their stories
about playing with the guys, and how now us girls have so many opportunities
to play on all girl teams. and all I can think is, "yea, well what about me?"
We don't have much hockey here, I'm not even sure that they have a girls
program at the rink 30 miles away. But it really wouldn't matter, the waiting
list is already a mile long. So thats pretty much out of the question.
Theres still roller hockey, but the program only allows you to play up to
10th grade, so this is my last season, as a player, in that program. The
other roller hockey nearby is set up a lot better, the only problem, it
doesn't seem like they allow girls to play. In the program I'm in, for the
equipment needed it always says suggested but not required-cup (if neccasary)
Showing that the program is co-ed. On the other roller hockey program, a cup
is required, and plus when they lady came up to my mom I was sitting on the
ground tieing my skates and the lady said if your "son" would like to play
roller hockey this summer you should look at this. I should've stood up and
said something like "do I look like a guy to you" or something along those
lines, but I didn't. I'm hoping to get into that league this summer, if I
can, it costs $200 for the roller hockey USA thing, and the league fee, I
think. But then theres all the approved equipment I don't have, and I'd have
to get different wheels since its indoors. So playing in that league is a
looong shot since I'm already going to Florida for a band trip this spring.
I'm sorry to ramble on like this, but it just doesn't seem fair. I'm 15,
and finally found something I love, and have stuck with. Its the only thing I
like, and don't get bored with. I have no idea what I want to do with my life,
and at 15 barely playing hockey, only ice skated once, a career in hockey is a
long shot. Not to be negative or anything, but its most likley the truth. Sure
theres college programs, but not in this state, theres I think 3 colleges with
club womens teams, and then they happen to be the most expensive colleges in
state. and I can't get a scholarship for hockey since I don't even play, and
well my grades aren't the best in the world, and the only thing left would be
for band, and well I'm pretty good, but not scholarshp material for that.
Well most of you are probably getting bored with my rambling on how my
situation sucks, so I guess I'll bring it to a close. All I want to do is
play, I hear kids at school talk about hockey, and saying they should play
this weekend. But the all live in the city, where parking lots and paved roads
are everywhere. Meanwhile I'm out in the boonies, watching the games on tv, or
the ones I taped, or on the internet looking at the hundreds of hockey sites.
Or playing wayne gretzky hockey on the computer which gets old when you beat
the other team only socres 1 goal a game, and you score at least 13. Sure I
love hockey, and theres times where I'm ok with watching the games on tv,
especially the women (which will be gone after the olympics, for now anyways)
but lately its not enough, just sitting back and watching gets boring. But now
its just too much, with the nice winter we've had here in colorado, and the
perfect weather for roller hockey, its too much. And yea I would consider
myself a little down or depressed at the moment but I think its kind of a good
reason to be.
I want to play the game I love, thats not much to ask is it? The baseball
program in our town is huge, the colorado rockies just sponsored a new field,
it probably cost over 5,000 dollars, how much does the city put into hockey?
maybe 200 dollars at the most. We play in a small parking lot, right next to a
lake, and most of the time nobody bothers to sweep the parking lot before
practice or the games, and I would say about half the crashes last year during
our practices were caused by little rocks or twigs, or trash. And at half the
practices we only had one goal, since the other one broke and nobody bothered
to fix or replace it. Its a joke.
I guess I'll shutup now, but I could probably go on for another page or
two. It's just that it'd be nice to get to play the sport I love.
Jennie
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:37:11 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: minnesota hockey
with all the luck I have, of course I'm missing out on all the girls hockey in
minnesota. The funny thing is, my dad grew up in minnesota and half of my
relatives live there, and none of them even play hockey. Me and my cousin are
the only 2 that have ever played hockey, and well he quit after his first
season, and we're both in colorado. strange. I like it here in colorado, I
just wish sometimes we decided to live in my dad's home state. Then I'd be
playing hockey, sigh, but of course its my luck that I'm stuck here for at
least another 2 years.
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 23:14:09 -0500
From: Louise
Subject: Re: commercials
Jessica Yeo said:
>BUT there is two [CBC commercials] i really love
>
>One is the coca cola on that says canucks
>
>the other one is with the two little girls, one
>pretending to be wickenheiser(?spelling?)
Yes, I still cry every time I see the "I'll be Wickenheiser and you be
Drolet" one. And when my defence partner sat beside me on the bench last
night and said in a little squeaky voice, "This time I'll be Wickenheiser"
I laughed so hard I almost choked.
I also like the Royal Bank ad talking about Lesley Reddon, the Cheerios ad
with the little boy goalie getting ready for early practice, and the Bay
Street road hockey game.
Saturday's game might not be as exciting as Tuesday's, but I'm looking
forward to both. The CBC is going to tape-delay Saturday's game to Noon
EST - don't know about the SRC.
Louise
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 00:19:55 -0500
From: Louise
Subject: Re: hockey, of course
At 07:17 PM 2/12/98 EST, email@hidden wrote:
>Women's hockey and the olympics is great and all, but watching the games and
>interviews is awesome, all except for one thing. They all have their stories
>about playing with the guys, and how now us girls have so many opportunities
>to play on all girl teams. and all I can think is, "yea, well what about me?"
Yes, that must be really painful, Jennie. I've used your letter to make
some comments about *real* things that you, and other would-be hockey
players, can do to increase your prospects of playing hockey.
In the recent book _Too Many Men On the Ice_, by Avery and Stevens, the
authors comment on the ways that female hockey associations seem to be
"re-inventing the wheel" in their initial struggles, in towns and regions
all over the USA and Canada. This really hit home with me, because I
remember my mother's struggles to get ice time from our township recreation
committee, to persuade local families that hockey would be suitable for
their daughters, and to organise balanced, female-only teams. That started
25 years ago, in our home town, and gradually the female hockey
associations there won credibility, ice time, and respect. (The Stoney
Creek Girls' Hockey Association will be honouring their founders tomorrow
night Friday 13 February 1998, at their tournament.) But when I moved away
from home, and became involved with female hockey in other Ontario towns,
and in the USA, I discovered the same battles going on all over, many at a
much earlier stage. Sometimes, I find that really discouraging.
I've actually been wishing that the media would stop describing each
Canadian or US national team player with "She started playing with the boys
and ...", and tell more about the girls' hockey leagues that many of the
younger players played in as children and teenagers. I think it would be
good for people to hear that *girls'* hockey associations exist, because I
think that might promote the founding and growth of *girls'* hockey in even
more centres. I know that Vicki Sunohara, Laura Schuler, and Karen Nystrom
are products of Scarborough Girls' Hockey. (In fact, I remember attending
the final game of the Intermediate A championships the year Sunohara and
Schuler - maybe Nystrom too - were playing for Scarborough and Kim Ratushny
was playing for Nepean. It went into overtime.) I think Cassie Campbell
grew up playing for the Brampton Canadettes. I know that Jayna Hefford
grew up playing for the Kingston Kodiaks (then called Frontenac County
Girls' Hockey.) And somebody mentioned here yesterday that four players
on Team USA grew up playing with the Connecticut Polar Bears, another
organization of girls' hockey teams.
You mentioned your mother watching one of your roller hockey games. How
supportive of your interests are your parents? Did they attend the
Canada-USA game with you? Are they watching the Olympic coverage with you?
Encourage them to watch. Ask your parents to help find a roller hockey
program you can play in next year, or to help set up an all-girls' program.
Tell them about the safety problems your roller hockey games have, because
the parking lot isn't swept. Make sure they know that hockey isn't just a
passing fancy for you.
>We don't have much hockey here, I'm not even sure that they have a girls
>program at the rink 30 miles away. But it really wouldn't matter, the waiting
>list is already a mile long. So thats pretty much out of the question.
Are you on that waiting list yet? Go ahead and *find out* whether there
are any female teams at that arena - maybe there is a women's team, not run
by the rink, which rents ice there, or a group of women who scrimmage
sometimes. When you meet other girls who play roller hockey, talk to them
about putting together a girls' roller hockey team, and about trying ice
hockey. You could also find out whether that rink has beginner skating
lessons on weekends or some other time you might be able to get there.
When you feel more confident on skates, you'll feel better about following
up on potential hockey opportunities.
All the best,
Louise
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 22:26:59 -0600
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Luge and Hockey/ TV Coverage
If I remember correctly, another problem with the triple cast was that it
still did not provide good coverage of the "less popular" events. I did
not subscribe at the time, but would have been much more tempted to do so
had they been covering sailing in any amount of detail (my summer sport).
IMHO, for any secondary broadcast package to work, it would have to address
the events not covered by the main corporate coverage, not just preliminary
competition of the same stuff we see on the networks.
Wendy Istvanick
FLASH Hockey - #21
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 02:19:25 -0500
From: Madeleine Oldham
Subject: Re: Need some advice
> So I guess I have a couple questions myself. Whats a good way to break in
>skates?
Jen -
I found that what really helped me was to sleep in my skates for a
couple of nights. Your feet will sweat inside them (particularly if
your room is warm or it is summertime) and help them to take the shape
of your feet. Just be sure to wear skate guards:-)!!
- -madeleine
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 03:47:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Jessica Yeo
Subject: Re: commercials
The cherrios one. I love that one. For those who
haven't seen it. The boy is dressed in half gear,
w/out skates/shoulder pads, and he is eating
cherrios. Than its time for him to leave and his dad
looks at the bowl. There is 5 cherios left, in the
form of the 5 Olympic rings
- ---Louise wrote:
>
> Jessica Yeo said:
> >BUT there is two [CBC commercials] i really love
> >
> >One is the coca cola on that says canucks
> >
> >the other one is with the two little girls, one
> >pretending to be wickenheiser(?spelling?)
>
> Yes, I still cry every time I see the "I'll be
Wickenheiser and you be
> Drolet" one. And when my defence partner sat
beside me on the bench last
> night and said in a little squeaky voice, "This
time I'll be Wickenheiser"
> I laughed so hard I almost choked.
>
> I also like the Royal Bank ad talking about Lesley
Reddon, the Cheerios ad
> with the little boy goalie getting ready for early
practice, and the Bay
> Street road hockey game.
>
> Saturday's game might not be as exciting as
Tuesday's, but I'm looking
> forward to both. The CBC is going to tape-delay
Saturday's game to Noon
> EST - don't know about the SRC.
>
> Louise
>
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 07:24:20 -0500
From: "Jennifer M. Bly"
Subject: ice hockey in Portland, OR
Hi! I am writing to find out if anyone has any information about women's
ice hockey teams in Portland, OR. I will be moving there in the next month
and have not had much luck with an internet search in area that of the
country regarding women's hockey.
Thanks, Jen B.
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 07:54:05 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: American Collegiate Championship
Thw American Women's College Hockey Alliance National Championship will be
held March 20 & 21st in Boston.
The Semi-Finals are scheduled for Friday at Harvard. The Finals are to be
held in conjunction with the Hockey East men''s championship on Saturday at
the FleetCenter.
Tickets for Friday are $6.00, and entitle you to a $5.00 discount for both
games at the FleetCenter on Saturday (Tickets are regularly $20.00 for lower
seats, $15.00 for balcony).
If you want to order for just Saturday, check out the Ticket Master web site.
The hotel for the event is the DoubleTree Suites Hotel (a short walk from
Harvard).
Tickets are being sold through Mass. Hockey for Friday and expected to go
quickly due to limited capacity.
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 06:49:11 +0000
From: email@hidden (Lyle Anderson)
Subject: Re: Need some advice
I have found only one good answer to the high arch problem. New skates
that fit properly. For me, it means special ordering them.
I have had this problem since I was a kid. You might say I'm chronic.
I will grant you that my arches are EXTREMELY HIGH!!
It seems that many would be able to get around this problem by carefully
selecting skates. I have found that Bauer and Daoust (no longer made
[?], but still available if you look hard) have the best arch support,
and CCM Tacks the worst. Obviously, opinions, like feet, will differ.
The military provided me my first arch supports free of charge. As my
feet have changed slightly, over the years, I use shin splints as a
guide to replacing them. Once the pain starts, I see a podiatrist (I
can never find boots that fit as well as I need for hiking with a heavy
load).
The last two times I bought skates, I only paid about $50 extra for
custom and waited three weeks for delivery. The arch support route is
much spendier, but just about as fast.
Budget supports (i.e. Dr. Scholl or whatever) do not do the job for me.
Even the real things are a pain as I had to buy skates that were fitted
with the inserts. This put me in Tacks for a number of years as they
were the only skates that had so little arch support they would
accomodate the inserts.
As for breaking them in... Try taking a clean sock and soaking it with
as hot of water as you can stand. Wring 'em out, put 'em on, and wear
your skates as tight as you can possible stand for an hour or so. Wear
'em around the house while you do chores and such that require you be on
your feet. I did this with my Bauer 4000's for three nights in the fall
and haven't thought about it since.
BTW you should never wear skates that are "two sizes too big," or ignore
shin splints. The first can have a negative effect on your skating, and
the second can cause more serious injury.
Lyle
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:46:38 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Nat'l Championship Tix.
Tickets for the first American Women's College Hockey Alliance National
Championship can be purchased through Harvard for Friday night's semi-finals
and Saturday consolation game at 12:00 noon. Both are to be held at Bright
Arena on Harvard's campus. This ticket also entitles you to a $5 discount at
the FleetCenter on Saturday. You must redeem discount coupon at the
FleetCenter box office to get the discount!!!!! Call (617) 495-2211.
To order tickets just for Saturday final at 4:00, call (617) 931-2000. Prices
are $15 and $20.
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:48:28 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Need some advice
Jen 29H wrote:
> So I guess I have a couple questions myself. Whats a good way to break in
>skates? I've read that wearing wet socks in them will help. Does anybody know
>if that works? Oh yea, I dunno if this would help any but I have the Bauer
>H3's.
I tried the "wet sock" method with my new skates. I wore them around the
house for a few hours with the plastic skate guards. It seemed to help soften
up the leather a little bit. However, I've only worn my new Bauers for two
games so far and I'm getting some nasty blisters on my ankles. Someone
recommended to try blister pads that are made specifically for the break-in
period. I was told they can be found in the figure skating section in the
skate shop, so I'm going to see if I can get some before my game tonight.
Unfortunately, I don't think there is any easy way to break-in new skates
other than to wait out that initial uncomfortable period.
Jen Bowden
SDWH #21
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:23:27 -0800
From: Anne Paulson
Subject: Re: Need some advice
> I have found only one good answer to the high arch problem. New skates
> that fit properly. For me, it means special ordering them.
>
> It seems that many would be able to get around this problem by carefully
> selecting skates. I have found that Bauer and Daoust (no longer made
> [?], but still available if you look hard) have the best arch support,
> and CCM Tacks the worst. Obviously, opinions, like feet, will differ.
I also have very high arches. Bauer skates are out of the question
for my wide feet. I love my CCM Tacks, and I have very expensive custom-made
orthotics in them.
As Lyle said, opinions and feet differ. I also second her opinion that
it's a bad idea to wear skates two sizes too big.
- -- Anne Paulson
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:43:40 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: breaking in skates.....
More advice on keeping skin on your feet during the break-in period....
I broke in my Missions in Houston in the summer (90F 80% humidity)...I
couldn't keep blister pads sticking on my heels. The speedskaters I see at the
park (well, actually they lap me...continously...hehe!) told me about duct
tape.
Used plain or with another skin adhesive added to the skin like Benzoin or
Skin Prep (trade name, ostomy supplies), it can fit in a tight clearance spot
where a thick heel pad might not. I found the heel area would still be
slightly tender after skating in wet skates, but the skin was still there. The
other plus about duct tape ("the handyman's secret weapon" -Red Green) is it's
lots cheaper and multifunctional.
Good luck with your skates!
Terry Pendergast
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 14:02:44 -0500
From: "Kristen M. Ede"
Subject: Is CBC broadcasting the game live?
Does anyone know if CBC and/or SRC are broadcasting the Canada vs. USA game
live tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m. EST? Or just re-broadcasting it at noon?
Thanks,
Kristen
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