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Women-in-Hockey Digest Wednesday, April 15 1998 Volume 01 : Number 186
In this issue:
15 yr old looking for opportunities
Re: 15 yr old looking for opportunities
roller hockey wheels
1998 San Diego Tourney Reminder
Dressing Room Delimma
Re: Dressing Room Delimma
Re: Dressing Room Delimma
Re: roller hockey wheels
Re: Dressing Room Delimma
women's equipment
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:38:07 EDT
From: AKatGrowls
Subject: 15 yr old looking for opportunities
Hey.
I'm 15 years old and living in the Cleveland area. I really would like to get
into Hockey...what schools are available for me to attend? I'm willing to
travel. Anything I could be possibly doing at home that could help me learn
faster? THanks
Katrina
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:48:18 -0700
From: email@hidden (Megan Bryant)
Subject: Re: 15 yr old looking for opportunities
I got this from the USA hockey web page:
http://www.usahockey.com/news/memberservices
District Personnel
Mid-American (Indiana,
Kentucky, Ohio, Western
Pennsylvania, West Virginia
REGISTRAR:
ROGER SHARRER
3142 Vernon Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15227-4229
ASSOCIATE REGISTRARS:
Indiana/Kentucky: DENlS GOONEN
4002 Captiva Dr.
Fort Wayne, IN 46815
Ohio West: DAWN McELHENEY
6931 Brint Road
Sylvania, OH 43560
Ohio East: CATHY FIEVET
23645 David Drive
North Olmsted, OH 44070
Western Pennsylvania/West Virginia: MARYANN
PRELICH
424 Parallel Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15210-3728
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Megan
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:25:50 EDT
From: Jen29H
Subject: roller hockey wheels
Well yet another question arises, this time wheels. Last year we played in the
parking lot, this season a rink was built and is pretty good (well besides the
fact the boards are really low and flying over them is quite easy, at least
I'm not the only one that did it). Except the surfaces are very unalike,
meaning, I spent the 2nd game last Saturday sliding across the rink. It didn't
hurt, its just very frusterating to have control of the ball with nobody on
you and then slide right in front of the goal, when you could have easily
scored (oh well at least I got the assist) So I need softer wheels. We are
playing on cement, its really nice. But anyways, I need to know what, I think
its, durometer of wheel to get. Right now I have, let me check...well I have a
couple of 82s on there and I can't find what the ones are that came on them.
So if you could tell me what durometer(or whatever) would be better, drop me a
line. Thanks
Jennie
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:59:01 EDT
From: JBowden21
Subject: 1998 San Diego Tourney Reminder
This is just a reminder that the registration deadline for the 1998 San Diego
Women's Hockey Tournament is approaching fast. All interested teams please
have your registration in by the end of this week.
When: May 15-17, 1998
Where: Iceoplex Ice Arena, Escondido (25 miles North of downtown San Diego)
Entry fee: $800/team
3 divisions, 3 games guaranteed, playoffs & finals
Call or e-mail Kathy Deacon for info or registration form. (619) 461-9274,
email@hidden
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:44:09 -0400
From: "dduda"
Subject: Dressing Room Delimma
Hi,
I have been relatively quiet on this list since I joined but now I have a
delimma. I am a female in my late 20's that has joined a co-ed house league
at one of the rinks here. (Co-ed means I am most likely the only female on
my team). A couple of male friends of mine and I had requested to be on the
same team and we are not sure at this point if we are. My question is, do I
share a locker room with 18 or 20 guys (most likely adult guys although I
am not sure of the age ranges) or do I choose to change in my own room? I
am quite a shy and reserved person although I wouldn't have a problem
changing with them. But I am not even sure how they're going to react to a
female being on their team, never mind one changing with them. How would I
go about "feeling them out" on the subject? Any advice would be
appreciated. My first game is this Sunday night.
Thanks!
Diane
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:37:22 EDT
From: Jen29H
Subject: Re: Dressing Room Delimma
Well I'm on a co-ed team, outdoor roller hockey, and of course I'm the only
girl in the whole age division. Since its outdoor, theres not even locker
rooms, which really doesn't matter untill it starts getting hot. We play 2
games a saturday, and switch colors for them. And our jerseys are those
reverseible ones. So when its hot I usually would just wear it without a shirt
underneath, but since we have to change I'll have to wear the other shirt.
I've never really been in a situation like that, and it'd be a pretty tough
one in the first place. I've never felt comfortable changing with anybody. I
just spent a week in florida with 3 other roomates, and that was pretty
uncomfortable.
And about their reaction to you being on the team. don't worry about it.
Its co-ed, you have the right to be there, just as much as they do. Last year,
everybody was cool about it, of course there was one other girl too. Every
time I fell down, like almost everybody would ask if I was alright. This year
they don't, whcih I like better, because its not like I'm any different or
anything. The team this year is better about it, well at least in like
including me. Of course I do actually know some of them this year, so that
might be it, but its not like I'm any different than them. Which is cool.
Don't worry about it, you're there to play.
Jennie
to be #29, someday
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:28:10 EDT
From: Goneskatin
Subject: Re: Dressing Room Delimma
Congratulations on joining up in a league!...Nevermind its a guys league, too!
I AM impressed!
About the locker room thing.....It kind of depends on ages of the guys as to
how comfortable/uncomfortable they will be with you in the dressing room. I
don't play in a men's league here, but I do go to drop-ins. I have found that
guys in their 30's aren't too bothered by a woman in the dressing room as long
as privacy is respected both ways. I find that they quite willingly give me a
locker room to myself until more guys show up and they have to overflow into
the 2nd locker room. When I shower at the ice rink I make sure I have all my
clothes with me in the shower room to change into and knock before going back
in the locker room to give the guys some warning. If I don't shower, but just
ditch the wet stuff, I still head for the bathroom adjacent to the locker room
for the privacy of a closed door.
As with any situation, if I was in a locker room and someone was behaving
inappropriately or saying obnoxious stuff, I would check my "do I give a damn"
meter as to how to respond. If you feel you must respond with SOMETHING to
counter a locker room Beavis/Butthead, anything to do with tampax usually
leaves them speechless and/or scrambling for the door . That and
being a nurse helps. Shooting them the OR nurse "freeze ray" look (read: what
IS your damage?!) usually does it.
Good luck in your first game...and keep yer head up, eh?!
Terry Pendergast
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:39:24 EDT
From: Goneskatin
Subject: Re: roller hockey wheels
Hi Jen,
I'm not sure from your e-mail what sort of surface you are playing on. Are you
on a hardwood floor, or a plastic sport court? Another factor to consider is
your weight and how hard you skate. If you are not an overly aggresive skater,
you can put 74 durometer (soft) wheels on a sport court. If you do generate a
lot of force with your stride (a combination of weight and leg strength), 74
durometer wheels won't last long, splitting along the running surface. I have
found I can skate on hardwood (maple) floors with 78 (harder) durometer but if
I go softer, especially if the varethane coating is fresh, I split wheels. On
a sport court surface, which is plastic, I find a 74 wheel gives the best
traction and gives enough to allow a power slide without splitting the wheel.
Hope this helps?
Terry Pendergast
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:39:26 EDT
From: Bryndlion
Subject: Re: Dressing Room Delimma
I've played many games now with a girl whom has become a good friend. She is
now 20 and has gone through a lot of crap being a goalie. The games we played
together she never seemed to have a problem except for the fact guys would not
take slap shots on her of course this is because we are all shovenistik
pigs... oh sorry, seriously they guys were not sure at first how hard to
shoot. She finally said something to me one day and I relayed the message. She
said if these guy don't start shooting full power she was going to find some
real men. That's what started our friendship and a lot of others for her also.
She is now reguarded as one of the best goalies in Saint Louis and is
requested for more games than I am. (I'm a goalie, she's a goalie wouldn't you
like to be a goalie too!) She dresses in the same room for the most part. I
say that cause after the game you will want your own room for the changing of
your totally sweat fill undergarments, besides the fact unless 18 sweating men
with STINKING equiptment appeals to you... I know sometimes I want my own damn
room myself.
Jessica is a great friend and she can handle herself well. If you feel shy
about the guys go in the locker room anyway and shock them first get to know
them. These guys are going to be saving your butt and vise versa. It doesn't
matter where you change but the smell remains the same (it's this powder they
put in the equipt. when it's made... oh 'scuse me)
Hope this helped just be yourself if you don't feel comfortable, how
comfortable are you going to be on the ice?
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:48:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Wendy R. Painter"
Subject: women's equipment
I finally saw some women's shoulder pads yesterday and I was shocked to
see how thin they were! These were Louisville pads, and while I did like
the way the chest plate fit, I couldn't imagine going out there and
playing with such thin padding on my arms, chest, and back. I'll stay
with my men's CCMs, thank you, and just deal with the chestplate riding up
every now and then.
I expressed my shock to the guys at the store, and one of them told me
that a Bauer representative said they'd surveyed women and found that
women don't want big, heavy padding. Evidently, the women expressed that
since they play in no-checking leagues, they felt they didn't need so much
protection.
WHAT?!? I just about flipped my lid! I admit that I live in Texas, and
since there aren't that women around to form a league, I fully expect that
if I get on a team, it will be a men's team (in a non-checking league) for
a while.
However, I didn't necessarily buy my pads to protect me against other
players -- I'm a prime example of someone who doesn't always need help
getting hurt. There isn't a session that I I don't thank myself for
buying heavy-duty pads. Every time I hit the glass with my face (but
avoid pain and bruising because of my helmet cage), get in between the
goal and a puck (but avoid pain and bruising because of my shin pads), or
just slip and fall on my butt really hard (and avoid chomping my tongue in
half because of my teeth guard), I know the investment was worth it. I am
still a novice, and I don't really trust myself not to hurt me, much less
the other players. For this reason, I cannot understand why women would
feel safe playing in "wimpy" equipment.
In contrast to this, I noticed that the men I scrimmaged with always wore
full equipment. I saw maybe one guy a week without heavy-duty shin pads,
and maybe 1-2 guys who weren't wearing full face protection. I'd say 75%
of them wore teeth guards. However, several of the women I skated with a
few weeks ago opted for half-face shields or no face protection, with no
teeth protection, either. I was the only woman wearing a teeth guard. I
was pretty amazed. While I don't expect the women I skate with to have
the body mass to bump into me as hard as the men do, I fully expect that
the women could certainly cause damage or injury if they're playing hard
enough. And as I said above, the things that have come closest to
injuring me so far have had very little to do with the other players on
the ice, and more to do with my own lack of control.
Now that I'm done spouting personal opinion, here's my question to the
list:
How accurate do others believe the Bauer survey to be? Do women
elsewhere, where women's leagues are common, really scrimp on equipment?
Am I in the minority, being a woman who believes in wearing the best
protection I can get, who believes that facing off against other women
doesn't mean I'm playing against cream puffs?
It's blowing my mind. It seems that manufacturers think women don't play
as hard as men, or that we're somehow less accident and injury prone.
Perhaps I'm letting my visit to the ER in January influence my preference
for heavy-duty equipment. The thing is, I want to play as hard as I can,
and therefore, I want the best protection possible. Yeah I'm 25 years
old, so I'm still young enough to heal up pretty well from injuries...but
at the same time, I'm not a child, and I believe my body should be just as
protected as a 25 year old man's would be. Am I totally off??
Wendy
#27, cuz I put it on the back of my practice jersey :P
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