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Women-in-Hockey Digest    Wednesday, April 8 1998    Volume 01 : Number 181



In this issue:

   Re: Brampton Tournament
   Re: Date set for Nationals?
   Re: Hockey in Crisis in Canada article.
   Re: Hockey in Crisis in Canada article.
   Re: Hockey in Crisis in Canada article.
   Re: Hockey in Crisis in Canada article.
   Re: Date set for Nationals?
   Re: Hockey in Crisis in Canada article.

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:57:16 EDT
From: Rootboy 
Subject: Re: Brampton Tournament

We (me, my wife, and my daughter) will be attending the tournament this Easter
weekend.  This
will be our third year, all with the Connecticut Polar Bears, the first time
with my oldest daughter
(then a Peewee 3), the 2nd time with both daughters (Peewee 2, Squirt 2), and
this year with only
my youngest (Squirt 1).(my oldest is away at boarding school).  We will be
playing in the "Peewee
B" division.  Each time we have gone to Toronto for the tournament we have had
a great time. We
have always stayed at The Marriot near the airport (they must have a sense of
humor, they haven't
banned us yet!).  Last year the motel opened a large banquet room on Saturday
night, that had
food, beverages and music for all the hockey players.  We have an early game
on Friday morning,
a mid afternoon on Saturday, and a 7:00 A.M. (yuk) on Sunday, then if we make
the finals, a
5:30P.M.  The games are played at the surrounding rinks, all within 15-30 min.
drive from The
Marriot.  The front desk at the motel has directions to all the rinks. We have
found the Canadian
people to be very friendly and very helpful. Our games are at: Fletchers 3 and
Jim Archdekin
rinks.  We will be departing Connecticut early Thursday A.M. so if you have
any questions that
hopefully I can answer, ask soon! and Good Luck at the games.  

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:52:37 -0700
From: "A. Chernin" 
Subject: Re: Date set for Nationals?

Anyone in Ontario Hockey that can help with date set for the National in
1999 would be greatly appreciated, as the women's final four will be held
in San Jose from March 19-22.  Please don't have them on the same weekend. 

Fran Rider are you out there?

Annette
Poco Phantoms #3

Women's Ice hockey Wear

http://www.tropicalpenguin.com/hockey.html

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:57:39 -0400
From: Debbie Minden 
Subject: Re: Hockey in Crisis in Canada article.

>If you're involved in hockey, you ought to take a look at this.
>
>Comments?
>
>
>
Every year I spend in hockey, the more surprised I get.  This year, my
daughter's PeeWee team was given the very short end of the stick.  We
parents were outraged.  Several left the club.  The kids, however, were ok.
My daughter would have liked to have won more than 5 games, but, she got to
play a lot, hang out at the rink with her friends, and skate 7 days a week.
(We live 2 minutes from the rink so it is like hanging on the street corner
for our neighborhood kids.)  If you would have told me in September that
the majority of kids would be as happy this year as they were last year
when they went to the finals, I would have fallen over.

Like almost everything - the rotten curriculum, the teacher with the mean
personality, the part your kid did not get in the school play - the kids
roll with the punches.  It is the parents who take it too seriously and see
it as another obstacle in the child's path to success.  The kids will be ok
if we are ok.  Sometimes even if we are not.  It is PLAYING hockey.  It is
very self-righteous to say, but we have to take our egos out of the mix.  I
ran a tournament this year, and all I wanted to do was send the parents to
a movie and leave me and the kids alone.  Don't worry, there will still be
professional hockey players if we don't stand behind our kids with stun
guns.

Debbie

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:08:00 -0600 
From: "Hunter, Bill 464-8643" 
Subject: Re: Hockey in Crisis in Canada article.

The most telling point of his article for me was "kids only play 30
games and have 100 practices".....

A 130 ice slots!  I'd kill to have 1/2 that.  My girls team played 24
league games and if I had an additional 30 practice slots I'd be
suprised.   We don't have enough rinks and they're too expensive to
build now.  (At the same time, 130 ice slots is 6 times a week from
October to the middle of March, do these kids have a life?)

I agree with Louise, kids want to play games.  My 11 year old son comes
home from school, calls all his friends, goes out to the rink behind my
house, they divide up into teams and play games.......

Benching kids in order to win a hockey game is the real problem.  It
ruins things for these kids and leads to team dissention.  Finger
pointing happens in the dressing room when the coaches aren't there.
These kids quit hockey, registrations go down and suddenly soccer is
claiming to be the most played sport in Canada......

Bill

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 12:01:39 -0400
From: Val Schmitt 
Subject: Re: Hockey in Crisis in Canada article.

Hunter, Bill 464-8643 wrote:

> I agree with Louise, kids want to play games.  My 11 year old son
> comes
> home from school, calls all his friends, goes out to the rink behind
> my
> house, they divide up into teams and play games.......

Yes, but isn't a pick-up type of game among friends quite different than
an organized game that "counts"? (And where coaches feel compelled to
bench players in order to win.) That seemed to be one of the points in
the article - that there seem to be so many games that "count" that kids
don't get to play games just for fun anymore. I'd think it's the
exception, rather than the norm, that kids have access to a rink behind
their house to play pickup on. Your son is lucky - hopefully he'll keep
that attitude! :-)

- -- Val
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:48:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jessica Yeo 
Subject: Re: Hockey in Crisis in Canada article.

My winter seasonis over with my normal team, and we
played something like 55 games, including tournaments
and scrimmages. We had at least that many practices
too. We were a first year team, won two tournaments,
placed second twice, finished third once and fourth
twice. One of our 4th as our very first three games.
I enjoyed the season, and the ice time. Our team had
a few problems towards the end, but they didnt affect
me, and after our last games we had money for three
more practices. I guess what Im trying to say is we
did have lots of ice time, and we didnt have more
than 3 practices to 1 game and we still did good. 
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 12:00:12 -0700
From: Liz Johnson 
Subject: Re: Date set for Nationals?

Yes!  Thank you Annette!  The men's and women's college basketball
final-four tournements are set for that weekend in the States, please hold
the National ANY OTHER WEEKEND before or after.  This is my first chance to
be able to attend them both, gads, I am hoping to not have to decide
between them.

Thanks,

Liz
#6 


At 10:52 PM 4/7/98 -0700, A. Chernin wrote:
>Anyone in Ontario Hockey that can help with date set for the National in
>1999 would be greatly appreciated, as the women's final four will be held
>in San Jose from March 19-22.  Please don't have them on the same weekend. 
>
>Fran Rider are you out there?
>
>Annette
>Poco Phantoms #3
>
>Women's Ice hockey Wear
>
>http://www.tropicalpenguin.com/hockey.html

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:52:40 EDT
From: Jenny44345 
Subject: Re: Hockey in Crisis in Canada article.

I am not from Canada, but I would love to get that much ice time.  I play high
school hockey and we only get to practice three nights a week, an hour for
each practice.  We get to play two games a week.  If our game isn't over in
fifty minutes, we get kicked off the ice.  The only time this didn't apply was
when we had the state finals.  What bugs me the most is that our practices
often get cut short, so the boys can practice.  Our practice is even shorter,
because it starts after school, and we barely have time to change.

Jenny

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