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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 432
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
by "David S. Fales"
2) Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
by "David S. Fales"
3) Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
by Gary Goldberg and/or Debbie Minden
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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 03:07:28 -0800
From: "David S. Fales"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
Message-ID:
Heather Gray wrote:
>
> I think it is more like Mothers of sons vs. Fathers of sons... I'm the only
> girl on my team, and I have noticed that the mothers of the sons are more
> 'catty' than the fathers. Fathers will ignore me, they will encourage their
> sons to dislike me, but at the time when I least expect it, one of those
> fathers will put his cockiness aside, and say, "Hey, you played a good game".
> The mothers I encounter say Ra Ra for their son and probably didn't watch the
> game anyhow, but are unhappy when they LOST! ; say, "You go girl, I wish I had
> that much courage to go play with those boys" ; or else they wonder why I'm not
> figure skating with their DAUGHTER!
>
> I have one thing to say, I saw this on a t-shirt in a catalog, and I
> practically live by it: I WOULD RATHER HAVE PLAYED HOCKEY AND LOST THAN FIGURE
> SKATED AND WON THE GOLD MEDAL IN THE OLYMPICS!
>
> I've said my bit,
> Heather
>
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I've seen the T-Shirt, It is one of the best!
Daveov
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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 03:14:12 -0800
From: "David S. Fales"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
Message-ID:
Jan de Regt wrote:
>
> I have a son who skates, and most of the teams he has skated with have
> been all boys. However, the parents - both moms and dads - are still
> completely capable of behaving extremely 'catty' about the kids on the
> team. My son is the goalie, and often bears the brunt of these
> remarks, especially when the team isn't doing well.
>
> After some thought on the question, I really don't think it's a
> "boy/girl" thing, or a "mother/father" thing - I think that a person's
> behavior is a reflection of their personalities, period. Some people
> are jerks and teach their kids to be jerks, and some aren't - it's
> that simple.
>
> Jan.
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
> Author: email@hidden at Internet
> Date: 12/13/96 8:10 PM
>
> Folks: I found the post below interesting. I'd like to hear from the
> women about an important issue referenced in the post. That is the
> phenomenon of women (generally those with sons, as mentioned) who won't
> support women. I have noticed that developing solidarity is an
> important hurdle to get over if women are ever to be given their proper
> place in society, without having to fight for it. You know, getting
> rights because they are due, and not because you had to fight for them
> (dont get me wrong, the battle is worth fighting!).
> Thx, Lyle
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Subject:
> Date:
> Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:32:04 -0800
> From:
> "jason "
> Reply-To:
> email@hidden
> To:
> Multiple recipients of list
>
>
> My name is Dave Barrett and for many years i have been involved with
> hockey
> as a parent for a few years,
> as a player for many years and as a coach in the boys hockey system. I
> gave
> up playing 4 years ago
> due to a back and neck injury and believe me it's hard to give up a game
> you love i didn't know what
> to do with myself during our long Northern Ont. winters. Even though i
> like
> ice fishing it never filled the
> gap for my love of hockey.Last hockey season 95-96 there was a notice in
> our local paper for a coach
> for a Girls Midget Provincial Hockey Team so i applied for the position
> and
> was surprised when i got
> the position. I still coach the same team this year and love every
> minute
> of it, it more then filled that
> gap and i get more pleasure out of the game. Coaching girls is very
> different then boys because with
> boys you don't have to put up with the" I HAVE CRAMPS " you know the
> female
> thing but the good
> thing is they want to learn, play,improve and unlike boys you can tell
> them
> about the game and how
> it should be played but boys know everything and when you tell them they
> say "I KNOW THAT" sound
> famillar.We play against boys mostly and they are shocked when the girls
> steal the puck from or
> outskate them they get quite upset wieh themselves.There is no body
> checking in our game just
> skating and puck control and boys find it hard to play that kind of game
> but they enjoy it, the people
> that get really upset are the MOTHERS yes the MOTHERS they can't take
> their
> boys getting beat
> by girls and you thought it would be the fathers so did i but i was
> wrong.To all the coaches out there
> keep up the good work our children need you and if you never coached
> girls
> it's time to try it.
> Have a good day
> Dave
Jan...Iagree with you 100%!
Daveov
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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 08:46:00 -0400
From: Gary Goldberg and/or Debbie Minden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
Message-ID:
I wrote on this subject a while ago, finding it offensive and sexist. I
agree with Jan that its the person not the gender of the child or parent.
Well yesterday in a Squirt game I saw a different kind of sexism. My
daughter got the only two penalties called, both for checking. The game
looked like a football game, and refs didn't call anything except for the
two penalties against my daughter. Parents on both sides were complaining
and appalled by the poor and particularly weird officiating. The best
(worst) call was when a team mate of my kid blatantly checked another kid
while my daughter was 30 feet away. Guess who got the penalty. Today, for
the first time, she is experimenting with pinning up her hair. Girls and
women are in hockey, and I think that those refs in particular, and some
others who need an attitude readjustment need to know that.
Debbie
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