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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 484
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Growing the Sport for the Lil'Girls!
by Chuck Collins
2) **Petition Update**
by email@hidden (MISS CAROLYN R SIMON)
3) Minnesota State HS Tourney
by email@hidden
4) Re: Manon
by email@hidden
5) Re: NEPSAC
by email@hidden
6) Women's college club hockey
by Kerstin Henry
7) Re: Growing the Sport for the Lil'Girls!
by email@hidden
8) Re: recruiting
by email@hidden (Jess Becker)
9) Re: **Petition Update**
by "Scott Perkins"
10) Re: **Petition Update**
by KELLY IRELAND
11) Re: **Petition Update**
by email@hidden
12) RE: Manon
by PETER PICKERING
13) Admin: How to get off of, get help for WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY
by The List Mom
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Date: 24 Feb 97 12:50:35 PST (Mon)
From: Chuck Collins
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Growing the Sport for the Lil'Girls!
Message-ID:
Jackie,
I've just gone through in Northern California what you're thinking of doing.
Warning: there's a lot of work involved.
With the small numbers of experienced players you are talking about, you have
a harder job than I did. However, be sure to look into the local in-house
programs. You might find there are more girls hiding than you thought.
Talk to someone in your district, preferably the women's and girls' program
director, and ask for a copy of the USA Hockey registration list of everyone
in the state under the age of 19 who is listed as female.
The thing that I want to get going, but have not been able to, is to create
a girls-only initiation program. I end up finding a lot of girls who are
interested in trying hockey, but the sessions we have going are oriented
toward the more experienced players.
If you get the initiation program going, there are dozens of recruiting
opportunities. Girls' softball, basketball and soccer programs are big
all over. Strategically placed posters with a phone number can get a lot
of response. See http://www.chkpt.COM/FutureOlym.html for a cool poster.
The other place to look is at the local roller hockey rink.
Once you get enough experienced girls to form a team, host a tournament.
You'd be surprised how easy it is to get local coverage on the nightly news.
Just this week, our team was invited to play a 4-minute inter-squad game
between the first and second periods of a Sharks game. The girls had a ball.
The arena played the Beach Boys' "California Girls" while they played.
So when you say there are only 8 girls registered, are you just talking about
your own rink, or the whole region? My mailing list of girls covers 6 area
codes, and includes girls from 14 different boys' programs.
Good luck.
- Chuck Collins
email@hidden
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:47:25, -0500
From: email@hidden (MISS CAROLYN R SIMON)
To: email@hidden
Subject: **Petition Update**
Message-ID:
Hello Puck Fans,
Here I am again with my periodic update. My grand total for now,
excluding approximately 20 or so names, is 519. Yay. This is VERY
good! Your help has been tremendous.
But I need some more help. Does anyone have any ideas as to where
I should bring this from here? I have all these names, and have
written e-mails to the general e-mail addresses provided on tv
stations' web pages, but have only gotten e-mails back that appear to
be written to everyone who writes anything to the network. Does
anyone have any ideas or contacts as to who I should go to or send my
info to? Thanks!
Again, this is a petition to broadcast women's hockey, possibly
this year's national championships, on a major broadcasting network.
If you would like to help, and please do, please send your name, e-
mail address, age, and location to email@hidden Thanks.
-Carolyn #21
NJ Selects
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:52:01 -0600
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Minnesota State HS Tourney
Message-ID:
Scores from this past weekend's Minnesota Girls State High School
Tournament are:
Winners Bracket:
Hibbing 4, Roseville 3 (big upset according to some people -
Roseville was something like 25-0 and had beaten Hibbing two times
during the season)
Blaine 9, Owantonna 0
Eagan 9, Hopkins 3
Mounds View 3, Stillwater 2
Second day: Hibbing 4, Blaine 2
Eagan 6, Mounds View 1
Championship: Hibbing 6, Eagan 3 (AWESOME GAME!!!!!)
3rd place: Blaine 3, Mounds View 1
CONSOLATION:
Roseville 6, Owatonna 3
Stillwater 5, Hopkins 2
Consolation Championship: Roseville 5, Stillwater 2
WAS A GREAT TOURNAMENT - 12,000 + FANS! 3,600 + AT THE CHAMPIONSHIP
GAME. GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY IS GROWING BY LEAPS & BOUNDS IN
MINNESOTA. 80 SOME TEAMS SCHEDULED TO HAVE GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY
NEXT YEAR! Dorene
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 15:17:52 PST
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Manon
Message-ID:
I just confirmed that Manon IS playing for the Reno Renegades,
check out their web page at www.renorenegades.com
As of February 24th she was playing in the WCHL (ice). Her stats
with the Renegades are:
GPI MIN AVG W L OTL EN SO GA SAVES SPCT
2 80 6.0 1 1 0 0 0 8 42 .84
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:50:09 -0500 (EST)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: NEPSAC
Message-ID:
Does anybody know who's in the tournements this week/weekend? I think my
team, Greenwich Academy, might be playing Pomfret in the B division.
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:53:27 -0500
From: Kerstin Henry
To: email@hidden
Subject: Women's college club hockey
Message-ID:
Hi,
I've been reading all of the interesting news and debate with the women's club programs, and it has gotten me interested in finding out how other club teams run: who can play, where do they get there money from, who do they play, how often is practice... Those type of questions.
What I want to do is put together about a twenty question survey for those of you who are involved in club hockey, collect the results and maybe post them somewhere if people are interested. It might also serve as a way to generate some ideas among the different clubs.
If you are connected with women's club hockey at the university level and would like to receive a survey, could you please e-mail me at:
email@hidden
I leave for spring break in two days (yeah!), so it will probably be about two weeks before I can get back to you. Thanks!!!
Kerstin Henry
#30 Michigan Tech Women's Hockey Team
email@hidden
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:56:29 -0500 (EST)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Growing the Sport for the Lil'Girls!
Message-ID:
I coach womens and youth hockey in Pheonix..I have 2 very talented female
players
who travel to San Diego to play in female league . There just aren't enough
skilled
female players in the entire state to field a team , let alone a league. One
of
the reasons these two are so good is because they have been playing in male
leagues for years. One dominated her male counterparts for years , untill the
boys finaly caught up to her at about the age 15-16 . Both still play on boys
teams occaisionaly , they are not as dominate as they used to be , but
they're still better then average against the boys...and outststanding , when
playing in San Diego
against females. one is 15(I've been coaching her since 12) , the other
16yrs old.
Playing against the boys for a while wouldn't hurt your daughter , untill
theres enough
female interest in your area.
John cromie
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:53:18 -0500 (EST)
From: email@hidden (Jess Becker)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: recruiting
Message-ID:
Since the recent string of messages from Jil and George started as a
reaction to one of my posts, I felt I should make an attempt to comment and
clarify...
First, my original post was referring to the change from club to varsity
status at colleges and universities, so I'm not really sure how it applies
to prep-school teams.
Second, let's face facts, athletic ability counts in college and
prep-school admissions processes, but it usually only counts to distinguish
the applicant from other applicants, e.g.,. does the school need a hockey
player more than an accomplished violinist or a dedicated newspaper editor?
A school isn't going to accept an athlete who's going to fail out in a
year or two. I know of more than one excellent hockey player who didn't
get into the college of her choice for academic reasons.
Third, I played 4 years of varsity girls' ice hockey at the Noble and
Greenough School (another elite prep-school). I was not recruited for
hockey or any other sport. *All* of my team-mates were "academically
sound." I'm pretty sure I know which CT school Jil and George were
referring to and it wouldn't be an elite prep-school if they recruited
players who weren't "academically sound."
Fourth, I was recruited to play hockey in college. I'm rather insulted
that anyone would assume that this means I couldn't get into college on
academics alone. Suffice to say that I graduated from Nobles with honors,
and I will graduate from Cornell University in May with a GPA I am very
proud of. My team-mates (recruits *and* walk-ons) have no more difficulty
with Ivy League academics than the rest of the student body. They wouldn't
be here if they couldn't hack it.
Finally, (and this is to Jil) if your daughter is "very NEW to the sport
and happy where she is," then I'm not sure I understand why you sound
upset. Are you concerned about what you see as unfair admissions
practices, or is there something more? Please forgive and correct me if I
have made any incorrect assumptions. I applaud your daughter's interest in
hockey, and I hope she continues to enjoy playing in the future.
Jess Becker #6,
Cornell Women's Ice Hockey Team
email@hidden
It doesn't matter if your team has good players, it matters if your players
have a good team.
- Morag McPherson, Cornell #21
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:10:36 -0500
From: "Scott Perkins"
To:
Subject: Re: **Petition Update**
Message-ID:
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> From: MISS CAROLYN R SIMON
> To: Subscribers to
> Subject: **Petition Update**
> Date: Monday, February 24, 1997 5:59 PM
> CAROLYN WROTE:
> Hello Puck Fans,
> Here I am again with my periodic update. My grand total for now,
> excluding approximately 20 or so names, is 519. Yay. This is VERY
> good! Your help has been tremendous.
> But I need some more help. Does anyone have any ideas as to where
> I should bring this from here? I have all these names, and have
> written e-mails to the general e-mail addresses provided on tv
> stations' web pages, but have only gotten e-mails back that appear to
> be written to everyone who writes anything to the network. Does
> anyone have any ideas or contacts as to who I should go to or send my
> info to? Thanks!
> Again, this is a petition to broadcast women's hockey, possibly
> this year's national championships, on a major broadcasting network.
> If you would like to help, and please do, please send your name, e-
> mail address, age, and location to email@hidden Thanks.
>
> -Carolyn #21
Carolyn,
I found out of experience that you need to talk to people directly to get
anything done. Look for the name of an editor or other higher-up on the
homepage of the network. Then take that name, and any information about
that person, and do a separate search on that person's name to get their
personal email address. Alot of the time, email addressed to higher-ups
just gets sent to people who are suppose to represent them and you get a
pre-typed letter telling you how much they appreciate your feedback.
Good luck!
Shannon Perkins-#1 K-Wings
email@hidden
http://www.angelfire.com/mi/perks
> NJ Selects
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:28:20 -0800
From: KELLY IRELAND
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: **Petition Update**
Message-ID:
MISS CAROLYN R SIMON wrote:
>
> Hello Puck Fans,
> Here I am again with my periodic update. My grand total for now,
> excluding approximately 20 or so names, is 519. Yay. This is VERY
> good! Your help has been tremendous.
> But I need some more help. Does anyone have any ideas as to where
> I should bring this from here? I have all these names, and have
> written e-mails to the general e-mail addresses provided on tv
> stations' web pages, but have only gotten e-mails back that appear to
> be written to everyone who writes anything to the network. Does
> anyone have any ideas or contacts as to who I should go to or send my
> info to? Thanks!
> Again, this is a petition to broadcast women's hockey, possibly
> this year's national championships, on a major broadcasting network.
> If you would like to help, and please do, please send your name, e-
> mail address, age, and location to email@hidden Thanks.
>
> -Carolyn #21
> NJ SelectsCarolyn, have you tried sending it to TSN (The Sports Network) in Canada.
It's worth a try.
Marilyn Ireland
Prince George, BC Canada
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:50:25 -0500 (EST)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden, email@hidden
Subject: Re: **Petition Update**
Message-ID:
One of the things you could do to get their attention is to send a letter
with a copy of all the neams to the network(s). Surprisingly enough, when a
network receives a single letter of complaint or request, it is considered to
be the opinion of thousands of viewers. If you send a petition with 500 names
on it, that's a lotta opinions!
Good luck -
Jenn
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:07:18 -0800
From: PETER PICKERING
To: "'email@hidden'"
Subject: RE: Manon
Message-ID:
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What is the WCHL? Do you mean the WHL? Which team?
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From: email@hidden[SMTP:email@hidden]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 1997 4:18 PM
To: Subscribers to
Subject: Re: Manon
I just confirmed that Manon IS playing for the Reno Renegades,
check out their web page at www.renorenegades.com
As of February 24th she was playing in the WCHL (ice). Her stats
with the Renegades are:
GPI MIN AVG W L OTL EN SO GA SAVES SPCT
2 80 6.0 1 1 0 0 0 8 42 .84
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 01:00:07 -0800
From: The List Mom
To: email@hidden
Subject: Admin: How to get off of, get help for WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY
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the ten seconds needed to do it right.
7) EDIT YOUR REPLIES. There is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- more
frustrating to users of mail lists than people who include 200 lines from a
previous message, and tack on a two or three line reply to it. It's an
amazing waste of bandwidth and list-goodwill, and lazy to boot. If you
include text in your replies to the list, edit out all of those pieces that
aren't needed in the reply.
8) KEEP MESSAGES SHORT AND TO THE POINT. The longer and sloppier your
messages are, the harder they are to read -- the fewer people will bother.
Spelling, punctuation, grammar, formatting all count. Take some time to make
your messages look good. If you don't take pride in your words, why should
anyone read them? Just tossing off text that looks like it was printed by a
malfunctioning printer serves neither you nor your ideas well. Take a few
minutes to clean things up and make them look like you care -- or nobody
else will, either.
9) NO SPELLING OR GRAMMAR FLAMES. And having said that, while spelling and
grammar counts, flames about them are really lame, especially because about
70% of the time the person doing the flaming misspells something in his
flame. Go figure. Don't embarrass yourself with stupid kid stuff like this.
We have more important things to argue about.
10) KEEP SIGNATURES SHORT AND IN GOOD TASTE. Keep your signatures as short
as feasible, and keep them in good taste. Material in your signatures will
be judged the way the rest of your message is -- if it's inappropriate for
the list, it's inappropriate for the list. Excessively long, useless, boring
or annoying signatures are also not appropriate -- we may ask you to stop
using them on the list, and if you refuse, remove you from the list.
Signatures are there to identify you, not to be used for ascii pictures of
the Death Star or copies of War and Peace.
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Tue Feb 25 01:00:07 PST 1997
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