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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 467
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Club Membership
by email@hidden
2) Re: regulating club membership
by "Brian M. Young"
3) Re: Fw: BLACK WEEKEND IN SUDBURY
by email@hidden (frank & tammy schulz)
4) Re: Womens Hockey in BC?
by email@hidden (frank & tammy schulz)
5) Re: Womens Hockey in BC?
by email@hidden (frank & tammy schulz)
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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 20:58:23 -0800
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Club Membership
Message-ID:
I played at Boston U. and I'm now coaching there. Our team is club and
over the last few years the policy has varied about who has been allowed to
play, often due to how badly we needed players. At times when the number
of students who were on the team was too low, or if there was someone who
showed a real interest, we did allow alumni, grad students and staff to
play. This is no longer the case. The team now allows only BU students to
play (under grad and grad), for various reasons, one of the main ones being
that the level of interest within the university has gone up and the team
has grown to over 30 members.
I think whether people besides students should be allowed to play should
depend on what direction the team is headed in and how many students are on
the team. I wholeheartedly agree with Rosann that students of the school
should be the top priority and should have the first opportunity to be on
the team. If you are at the point where you have to create two teams, or
to cut people, just based on students, I don't think that adding more
players into the mix is a good idea. There is also a problem if a team is
trying to go varsity if there are a lot of members on the team who are not
traditional students.
Of course the problem is that this can hinder people from getting into the
sport, but I feel that the students at a university are paying for the
opportunity to be there, and they should have the first crack at being on a
team. The teams are not there so that an employees spouse can play a
sport, they are there for the students at the university. Just like the
library or a class or any other facility or activity at a university, the
students are the primary "consumers" of these things and should have the
first chance to utilize them. But this is just my opinion, feel free to
disagree!
I am surprised to hear that most colleges allow faculty, staff, and
especially SPOUSES to participate in club sports. Is this the case at most
schools?? Also, Joan mentioned that she recommends that schools keep a
club team even after going varsity. I've never heard of this before, is it
this way at many schools? And I had no idea that any schools had men's
varsity teams AND club ones. We can barely get ice time as it is, and that
is with only our club team and our mens team as the schools' 2 teams. I
can't even imagine how hard it would be with 4 teams.
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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 16:14:47 -0500
From: "Brian M. Young"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: regulating club membership
Message-ID:
email@hidden wrote:
>
> I had a short conversation with Rosann from MSU regarding MSU's club policy
> of only allowing students to play on their team. She said it was alright to
> bring the topic out for discussion.
>
> What I wanted to know is how does everyone feel about the general rules about
> club sports allowing any student, faculty, staff or spouse to play college
> club sports?
>
> The following is Rosann's personal opinion:
> >At MSU we have so many people interested in playing hockey that we had to
> >create two teams. This means that if we were to allow non-students places
> on
> >the team we would have to turn down students at MSU. We are very serious
> >about our teams and hope to see women's hockey granted varsity status (I
> hope
> >the club continues after this as well.) There are other oppurtunities for
> >women in the area to play hockey, but there will never be another
> oppurtunity
> >for the girls on our team to wear an MSU jersey while theu attend the
> >university.
> >
> >Feel free to share my opinion. This opinion may not be the opinion of my
> >school/teamates.
>
> The second following is my opinion:
> It kind of hinders other women from getting into the sport.
> >> Most colleges have a general rule that all club sports are open
> >> to students, faculty, staff and spouses. I assume that MSU
> >> also does. With varsity teams already having these kinds of rules,
> >> it is not necessary to have them as a club. I feel that clubs
> >> should be more flexible and less regulated.
> >>
> >> By the way, I always tell university clubs that should their
> school
> >> get a varsity team approved, they should still also maintain a
> second
> >> team at the club level, just as many men's teams do. This allows
> >> more opportunities for women to play hockey.
> >>
i totally agree with roseann..i think it should be school
participants,if they are trying to get varsity status,they need quality
players for people to take them seriously,especially if they all attend
the school... (by the way is rosann the same as rosie from metro
flyers?)
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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:09:06 -0800 (PST)
From: email@hidden (frank & tammy schulz)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Fw: BLACK WEEKEND IN SUDBURY
Message-ID:
>HOW COMFORTING TO KNOW THAT THE SAME BULL?*&^! POLITICS GO ON ELSEWHERE,
NOT JUST IN B.C.....Tammy
Send my regards to Mike...
>
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>> From: jason
>> To: email@hidden
>> Subject: Fw: BLACK WEEKEND IN SUDBURY
>> Date: Monday, February 03, 1997 11:37 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------
>> > From: jason
>> > To: email@hidden
>> > Subject: BLACK WEEKEND IN SUDBURY
>> > Date: Monday, February 03, 1997 11:31 AM
>> >
>> > For the Sudbury and District Girls Hockey Association the first weekend
>> in
>> > Feb. 1997 was not good.
>> > On this weekend the PRESIDENT of the SDGHA was suspended by the
>ALMIGHTY
>> > OWHA and all
>> > GODS that sit at there round table.Mike is a devoted father of 2
>> daughters
>> > and 1 son all three play
>> > hockey,he is also a coach for a senior girls house league
>team,assistant
>> > coach on a bantam
>> > provincial team and president of the SDGHA, not only is Mike a devoted
>> > father he is also a very
>> > devoted PRESIDENT,COACH, and ASSISTANT COACH. You are probably asking
>> > yourself why was
>> > Mike suspended , i am going to tell you . It was ALLEGED (remember that
>> > word)that Mike made a
>> > DEROGATORY remark against another team in SPORTS NORTH NICKLE CENTRE
>> known
>> > as the
>> > (SHE DEVILS) in a public place which was a sports store in SUDBURY, now
>> the
>> > DEROGATORY
>> > remark that Mike ALLEGED to have made was ( THAT TEAM IS ILLEGAL) in
>the
>> > present of the
>> > owner of that sports store.Mind you the team had 4 UNRELEASED players
>> > playing for them that
>> > played in the SDGHA and only 2 of those players asked for RELEASES but
>> was
>> > denied (we can
>> > get to that latter) the other 2 did not even request for a RELEASE so
>the
>> > GODS of the ROUND
>> > TABLE stepped in and UNCONDITIONALY RELEASED all 4, but getting back to
>> the
>> > ALLEGED
>> > DEROGATORY remark the OWHA recieved a letter from the SPORTS STORE
>owner
>> > stating that
>> > the ALLEGED DEROGATORY REMARK was true. The OWHA then sent a copie to
>> Mike
>> > and wanted
>> > an EXPLANATION . Now the person whom ALLEGED to wrote this letter was
>> > confronted with the
>> > letter and he was in TOTAL SHOCK hs said that he did NOT WRITE the
>> ALLEGED
>> > LETTER
>> > and the signature was a FORGERY he then wrote a letter to the OWHA
>> stating
>> > such and it was
>> > CONFIRMED to the OWHA by telephone that he did not write the ALLEGED
>> LETTER
>> > but to no
>> > avial because the OWHA has made their decision to suspend Mike and now
>> they
>> > can not do
>> > nothing so he must appeal their decicion.So here we are a team with NO
>> > COACH, a team with
>> > no ASSISTANT COACH and a ASSOCIATION with no PRESIDENT just because the
>> > OWHA
>> > did not do their HOMEWORK. You no folks all i am is a parent of 2
>> children
>> > between raising them
>> > and their sports and work i have no time to be involved the Mike is my
>> hat
>> > goes of to you Mike, you
>> > love what you are doing because i would not do keep up the good work
>MIKE
>> > the KIDS need
>> > people like you and so do us parents.I will give my name due to a
>> possible
>> > repisal.For any interested
>> > Mike's email address is email@hidden i am sure Mike will answer
>all
>> > your questions
>> >
>
>
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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:26:26 -0800 (PST)
From: email@hidden (frank & tammy schulz)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Womens Hockey in BC?
Message-ID:
>Shannon
There are several teams in the Lower Mainland area of British Columbia. I
can give you any info you wish to know and any contact names and numbers.
You can Email the coach of the UBC Thunderbirds at:
unixg.ubc.ca
and her name is Laura Bennion. They are a good team.
Let me know if you need any more info...Tammy
Does anyone know if there is any womens hockey in at UBC or in the BC
>area? I will be possibly be returning to graduate school at UBC in 1998
>and am looking for a place to play. I have heard that UBC has a team,
>but have not been able to find much info on it. Any info would be
>greatly appreciated!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Shannon
>
>
><> <> <> Shannon Pelot Valerio <> <> <>
><> Program Coordinator, <>
><> Office of Minority Affairs <>
><> <> <> University of Denver <> <> <>
>
>Native Hockey Players Page:
>http://www.du.edu/~svalerio/native.html
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:28:04 -0800 (PST)
From: email@hidden (frank & tammy schulz)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Womens Hockey in BC?
Message-ID:
>Jeanne - you probably saw my message to Shannon but if not, here is Laura
Bennion's Email address. She is the coach of the UBC Thunderbirds female
ice hockey team.
unixg.ubc.ca
Also, if you want any other info about female ice hockey here in the Lower
Mainland of BC, I can give that to you. This is where I play hockey...Tammy
I am also interested in UBC women's hockey...I'm looking into grad
>school there also. Keep me posted if anyone knows anything.
>
>Jeanne
>
>
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