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Women-in-Hockey Digest Sunday, December 21 1997 Volume 01 : Number 085
In this issue:
Re: Rheaume
Angela James & Stats
First Period Score
Second Period Score
USA 3, Canada 0 (Final)
Team USA cuts
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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 00:52:45 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: Rheaume
At 8:00 PM -0800 12/19/97, email@hidden
(Women-in-Hockey D wrote:
> You are quite misinformed. Manon Rheaume was cut from the women's
> national team this past year due to the fact that she was giving
> birth to a child.
This isn't correct. That rumor was runnign around all summer around the
RHI, since she was in Sacramento with Gerry, but it's not true.
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Chuq Von Rospach (email@hidden) Apple IS&T Mail List Gnome
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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:30:58 -0500
From: "Marc J. Ouellette"
Subject: Angela James & Stats
Just to add a few facts to the debate about Angela James...
Here are the stats for Angela James in the Central Ontario Women's Hockey
League, from 1992 to 1997. I don't have stats available for 1994-95 yet.
NB: For complete stats, check out
http://www.dgp.toronto/edu/people/vv1/COWHL.html
Legend: # = Player Number Pos= Position S = Shot GP = Games Played G = Goals
A = Assists PTS= Total Points PP = Power Play Points
SH = Short Handed Points GA = Points on Final Go Ahead Goals
GW = Points on Game Winning Goal GT = Points on Game Tying Goals
1P = Points on 1st Goal of Game LP = Points on Last Goal of Game
PIM= Penalties in Minutes Rank=Angela's rank in scoring race
Year Rank Team # Pos S GP G A PTS PIM | PP SH GA GW GT 1P LP
1996-97 7th Panthers 8 C R 28 29 29 58 57 | 11 3 7 6 2 5 8
1995-96 1st Red Wings 8 F R 29 35 35 70 37 | 4 5 8 9 0 7 10
1994-95 -- Not available --
1993-94 1st Aeros 60 F R 28 40 30 70 41 | 13 2 12 13 0 10 13
1992-93 1st Aeros 8 F R 23 16 18 34 67 | 9 0 7 8 1 6 6
Since some of the latest arguments supporting Angela's cut from the team
relate to her performance in the games against the USA, I decided to
compile the stats for the Team Canada forwards in the 6 games against the
USA, prior to the December 9th announcement of the final cuts. Of course, 6
games (and fewer for some players) is such a small sample space that it's
hard to draw any statistical conclusions from these stats. But it's not
clear that Angela performed far worse than most other Team Canada forwards,
if we just look at the stats below. Only five of the forwards had 3 points
or more [Angela had 1]. Players were cut that had more points than Angela
(Shewchuk with 4), and players were kept that had fewer points than Angela
(Dupuis, Goyette and St-Louis had 0 points). Basically, the stats are
inconclusive : they neither support nor contradict the decision to cut
Angela.
It's too bad that plus-minus stats are not included in the summaries...
That would give a better idea of the relative performance of the players.
But even plus-minus does not tell the whole story, it's too simplistic.
I also wish I could have seen more than one exhibition game (I was at the
one in Kitchener). It's hard to assess players without seeing them play
in more than one game, or by using scoring summaries.
Forward G A P PiM (Games played - a range indicates uncertainty
Since the game summaries do not indicate which
players were in the lineup, I've assumed that
a player was in a lineup if she got a goal, an
assist, or a penalty. I've also taken into
account the information stating which players
didn't make which trip - e.g., Goyette and
Letendre did not play in the NB games nor in the
Kitchener game. I was also at the game in
Kitchener so I remember which forwards played
in that particular game.)
Forward G A P PiM GP
Jayna Hefford 6+1= 7 2 4-6
Hayley Wick. 1+5= 6 8 6
Tammy Shewchuk 3+1= 4 0 4-6
Karen Nystrom 2+1= 3 2 3-4
Laura Schuler 0+3= 3 2 5-6
Kathy McCormack 1+1= 2 0 3-6
Vicki Sunohara 1+1= 2 4 4-6
Nancy Drolet 0+2= 2 4 3-5
Stacy Wilson 1+0= 1 2 2-5
Angela James 1+0= 1 4 4-6
Jennifer Botterill 0+1= 1 0 2-6
Lori Dupuis 0+0= 0 14 3-6
France St-Louis 0+0= 0 2 2-5
Danielle Goyette 0+0= 0 0 0-3
Luce Letendre 0+0= 0 0 0-3
One final note. Here are Canada's +/- at the 1997 World Championship.
The first two columns represent the true plus-minus (i.e., you get a plus
everytime you are on the ice and your team scores and your team is not
on the power-play, you get a minus everytime you are on the ice and the other
team scores and your team is not short-handed.) The F (as in for) column are
positive contributions, the A (as in against) column are for negative
contributions.
The next two columns represent the total plus-minus (i.e., you get a plus
everytime you are on the ice and your team scores, you get a minus everytime
you are on the ice and the other team scores.) Again, the F and A represent
the positive and negative contributions.
The final two columns represent the combine "true" plus minus, and the
total plus minus (i.e., column 5 is the sum of columns 1 and 2, column 6
is the sum of columns 3 and 4.)
*---------------------*--------------*---*---*
| Player | +/- All |+/-|All|
| | F A F A | | |
*---------------------*--------------*---*---*
| France St-Louis | +4 +5 -1 | +4| +4|
| Rebecca Fahey | +3 -2 +3 -5 | +1| -2|
| Therese Brisson | +3 -1 +3 -3 | +2| 0|
| Angela James | +4 -1 +7 -1 | +3| +6|
| Fiona Smith | +5 +8 | +5| +8|
| Lori Dupuis | +6 +9 -1 | +6| +8|
| Danielle Goyette | +3 -1 +5 -1 | +2| +4|
| Jayna Hefford | +5 +7 -1 | +5| +6|
| Stacy Wilson | +4 -1 +7 -2 | +3| +5|
| Nancy Drolet | +5 +8 -1 | +5| +7|
| Luce Letendre | +2 +3 -1 | +2| +2|
| Judy Diduck | +6 +11 | +6|+11|
| Hayley Wickenheiser | +6 -1 +10 -2 | +5| +8|
| Laura Schuler | +3 -1 +5 -1 | +2| +4|
| Vicki Sunohara | +4 -1 +8 -1 | +3| +7|
| Cassie Campbell | +8 -1 +14 -1 | +7|+13|
| Geraldine Heaney |+10 -2 +17 -3 | +8|+14|
| Karen Nystrom | +4 -2 +6 -2 | +2| +4|
*---------------------*--------------*---|---*
Just thought people might find these numbers interesting to look at...
Marc
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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:35:58 -0800
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
Subject: First Period Score
Score at the end of the first period at Lake Placid, NY, in front of a lot
of empty seats
Canada 0 USA 0
Shots on Rheaume: 9
Shots on DeCosta: 11
Phil Cottrell, Victoria, BC
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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 14:31:29 -0800
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
Subject: Second Period Score
After two periods at the 3 Nations Cup:
USA 3, Canada 0
Shots in second period:
On Rheaume: 13
On DeCosta: 2
Terrible period for Canada in every respect. Time for a Mike Keenan style
paint-peeling lecture from Shannon Miller betwee periods.
Phil, Victoria, BC
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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:36:52 -0800
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
Subject: USA 3, Canada 0 (Final)
USA wins the 3 Nations Cup, a deserved victory after a totally flat
performance by Team Canada, probably their worst in recent years.
Three second period goals (Ulion x2, Milezco) did the trick. Very good
defensive play by USA prevented Canada from getting back into it in the
third. One Canadian goal was justifiably disallowed (kicked in) but the
scoreline was about right on the day :(
Time for some reconsiderations before Nagano, perhaps. TSN announced that
the next Canada/USA game (from GM Place, Vancouver as a part of the NHL All
Star Game weekend) will be shown live. Good news.
Phil, Victoria, BC
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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 12:24:21 EST
From: IceFox24
Subject: Team USA cuts
Just read in the paper that Erin Whitten, Kelly O'Leary, and Stephanie
O'Sullivan have been cut from Team USA.
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