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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 553
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: NCAA
by Chuck Collins
2) Re: New Issue of Go, girl! Mag
by Jessica Yeo
3) Re: NCAA
by Jessica Yeo
4) Re: NCAA
by email@hidden (DAVE BAKER)
5) RE: NCAA
by "Nakaso, Joanne R."
6) The Goderich Sailorettes
by "Sue St.Louis"
7) Re: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 551
by "JENNIFER Lynn Moen"
8) Re: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 551
by Paula Hunt
9) RE: women #'s up, but spending not!
by zharris
10) Re: HELP!
by Alicia L Roberts
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Date: 28 Apr 97 12:01:59 PDT (Mon)
From: Chuck Collins
To: email@hidden
Cc: email@hidden (DAVE BAKER)
Subject: Re: NCAA
Message-ID:
erin russ wrote:
> The way I understand it, Women's D-I hockey does play according to NCAA
> rules...men's rules with a few exceptions. The rulebook (I have the
> "1997 NCAA Ice Hockey Rules" booklet) has a section at the end called
> "Rules Modifications for NCAA Women's Ice Hockey" (p. 76).
>
> The section says that women's ice hockey is an "emerging sport" according
> to the NCAA. The modifications prohibit checking and change the icing rule
> to blue-line icing. (Though I hear that the eastern schools are talking
> about changing the rule back to red-line...I don't know anything about the
> progress of that. Anyone out east have info on that?)
Can anyone enlighten me on WHY there are so many leagues that adopt
blue-line icing, as apparently does the women's game? Exactly what problem
does deviating from the original rule solve? I can understand it as a
response to a shorter than regulation ice surface, but why would you adopt
this as a general rule?
Does this apply in Canadian hockey as well, or is it just practiced in the US?
- Chuck Collins
email@hidden
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 12:35:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jessica Yeo
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: New Issue of Go, girl! Mag
Message-ID:
Great magazine. I have played hockey since I was four, and have never
been able to eat healthy. I love the women's sports, health and
nutrition section. To quit eating all of the junk I am, I already
decided to take a sport's nutrition course.
email@hidden wrote:
>
> The April 28 issue of Go, girl! is now online at
http://www.gogirlmag.com
>
> This issue includes a great column by Dr. Barbara Waite on how
learning
> new skills affects our performance and confidence. Helpful,
interesting
> stuff. Could be helpful when you're learning a new hockey skill.
>
> And our feature story is all about Ultimate Frisbee -- if you're
anything
> like me and think you can't throw a frisbee, this is the story for
you.
>
> Of course, there's all the regular segments, too: sports, health,
> fitness, and nutrition news; a profile of a woman who juggles work,
> family, and mountain biking -- and makes it look easy; and a review
of
> the GORP web site, a great reference for outdoor activities.
>
> Best wishes for healthy, happy days,
> Melissa Joulwan
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Melissa Joulwan
> Go, girl! Magazine http://www.gogirlmag.com
> 415-332-4134
>
> Go, girl! is a bi-weekly magazine dedicated to getting women of all
> ages and fitness levels involved in sports.
>
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>
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 13:23:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jessica Yeo
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: NCAA
Message-ID:
When I played up in Canada, which was 4 1/2 years ago, they used red
line icing. I played in a young league, because I was only 9. I've
look at many Canadian hockey sites, and do not recall seeing anything
about blue line icing. I now play in Michigan, for the Michigan
Capitals Pee-wee B girls' travel team, and we play with red line.
Women should use the red line rule, because that way hockey is still
the same. Even though there is not supposed to be checking in women's
hockey, there is lots, and the refs don't call it. I was watching Don
Cherry, and he showed clips of the Canadian women's national hockey
team playing in the recent championship tournament. There was much
checking, and it was hard. Women can take checking just as well as men.
J Yeo
---Chuck Collins wrote:
>
> erin russ wrote:
>
> > The way I understand it, Women's D-I hockey does play according to
NCAA
> > rules...men's rules with a few exceptions. The rulebook (I have
the
> > "1997 NCAA Ice Hockey Rules" booklet) has a section at the end
called
> > "Rules Modifications for NCAA Women's Ice Hockey" (p. 76).
> >
> > The section says that women's ice hockey is an "emerging sport"
according
> > to the NCAA. The modifications prohibit checking and change the
icing rule
> > to blue-line icing. (Though I hear that the eastern schools are
talking
> > about changing the rule back to red-line...I don't know anything
about the
> > progress of that. Anyone out east have info on that?)
>
> Can anyone enlighten me on WHY there are so many leagues that adopt
> blue-line icing, as apparently does the women's game? Exactly what
problem
> does deviating from the original rule solve? I can understand it as a
> response to a shorter than regulation ice surface, but why would you
adopt
> this as a general rule?
>
> Does this apply in Canadian hockey as well, or is it just practiced
in the US?
>
> - Chuck Collins
> email@hidden
>
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:27:09 +0000
From: email@hidden (DAVE BAKER)
To: Chuck Collins
Subject: Re: NCAA
Message-ID:
> Does this apply in Canadian hockey as well, or is it just practiced in the US?
Re: blue-line icing rule.
Nope. We don't use this rule. However, it has been suggested
before. The rationale for using the blue line as the determining
factor for icing is that many people feel that often the intent, when
over the blue line, is not to ice the puck but to make a pass which
simply is missed.
However, when the puck is shot all the way down the ice from inside
the defending zone, it is normally as a result of pressure by the
attacking team and the intent by the defending team is clearly to ice
the puck and gain a stoppage of play. Therefore, icing should be
called in these situations. And even if it was intended as pass, it
would have been off-side at the centre red line anyway.
Not my suggestion, just relaying the apparent rationale.
David Baker
Manager, Officiating
CANADIAN HOCKEY
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:20:11 -0700
From: "Nakaso, Joanne R."
To: "'email@hidden'"
Subject: RE: NCAA
Message-ID:
Chuck Collins said:
>
>>Can anyone enlighten me on WHY there are so many leagues that adopt
>>blue-line icing, as apparently does the women's game? Exactly what >problem
>>does deviating from the original rule solve? I can understand it as a
>>response to a shorter than regulation ice surface, but why would you adopt
>>this as a general rule?
>
It seems to me that what is being avoided is not red-line icing, but the
stuff that goes with it, i.e. two-line passes. Having two-line offsides
would increase the number of stoppages in the game, particularly in the
lower recreational levels.
At the higher levels, including elite women's leagues, having the red
line, and the two-line offsides rule, would add a dimension to the game.
That is, it would slow the game down a bit, and give back a little to
the defense. (Maybe I should say, rather, that it takes away a little
from the offense.)
*jj
>
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 16:49:02 PDT
From: "Sue St.Louis"
To: email@hidden
Subject: The Goderich Sailorettes
Message-ID:
Hi everyone, I was just reciting my hockey cheer and I thought that I would
share it with everyone. It goes to the tune of "Ice Ice Baby" by "Vanilla Ice".
Yo, Senior girls lets kick it
Duh na na na nuh
Ice Ice Hockey
Alright stop grab a stick and play,
I hit the ice and I'm ready for the game,
So fast that the ref. blows the whistle,
I hit the puck and it goes like a misile,
Steamin, though the goalies blocker,
If she stops it,
I'm gonna have to knock her OUT.
I'm gonna knock her OUT.
I'm gonna knock her OUT.
By: Rhonda Watt #6, Mya Mailet #9, and me Sue
St.Louis #15/#30 of "The Goderich Sailorettes"
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:35:14 -0600
From: "JENNIFER Lynn Moen"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 551
Message-ID:
Does anyone know of any camps or summer leagues in the Brainerd
Minnesota area? If you do could I get some addresses or phone numbers
of where I can sign up? Thank You. Another thing, does anyone know
Kevin Jeanson from Carmen Manitoba?
Jennifer Moen
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 08:41:11 -0400
From: Paula Hunt
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 551
Message-ID:
>Jennifer Moen:
Steve Jensen runs "Heartland Hockey" in Deerwood, MN which is just down the
road from Brainerd (of "Fargo" fame). I attended his adult hockey camp
there. The accomodations and locker rooms are pretty primitive (some
friends and I elected to stay at a nice and fairly inexpensive hotel about 5
minutes away), but the instruction was excellent. All the ice time you want!!
Paula
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 97 07:34:00 -0700
From: zharris
To: email@hidden,
Subject: RE: women #'s up, but spending not!
Message-ID:
I received this bulletin from The Chronicle of Higher Learning, Tuesday,
April 29th... very interesting. The article follows for more detail:
** THE NUMBER OF WOMEN competing in intercollegiate athletics
has risen since 1991, while the number of male athletes has
fallen, according to a survey released Monday by the National
Collegiate Athletic Association. But the increase in spending
on men's sports during those years far outstripped the
increase in spending on women's sports.
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NCAA Gender-Equity Survey Shows That
Colleges Still Have "a Long Way to Go"
By JIM NAUGHTON
The number of women competing in intercollegiate athletics has
risen since 1991, while the number of male athletes has fallen,
according to a survey released Monday by the National
Collegiate Athletic Association. But the increase in spending on
men's sports during those years far outstripped the increase in
spending on women's sports.
According to the N.C.A.A.'s "1997 Gender-Equity Study," the
average Division I institution supported 226 male athletes and
130 female athletes in the 1995-96 academic year. The number
of male athletes had dropped 10 per cent, and the number of
female athletes had risen 16 per cent, since the association's last
gender-equity study was released, in 1992.
During that time, what the survey referred to as "operating
expenses" for the average men's program increased 139 per cent,
to $1,165,100, while women's operating expenses grew, on
average, 89 per cent, to $338,600.
As defined in the survey, "operating expenses" include the costs
of lodging, meals, transportation, officials, uniforms, and
equipment. Although the figure does not include the costs of
recruiting, scholarships, promotions, salaries, and facilities, it is
regarded by many in college athletics as a reliable indicator of an
athletics department's priorities.
According to the survey, 37 per cent of Division I athletes are
women. The figure represents a six-percentage-point increase in
female athletes since 1991.
Patricia Viverito, chairwoman of the N.C.A.A.'s Committee on
Women's Athletics, said the survey contained both good news
and bad news for female athletes. The increase in the rate of
women's participation was encouraging, she said. "But the fact is
that expenses are escalating at such a pace in intercollegiate
athletics that they offset any gains overall for women," she added.
The survey was released one week after the U.S. Supreme Court
declined to hear an appeal in a case with major implications for
gender equity in college sports. In the case, Brown University
was found to have violated a federal law that mandates equality
of opportunity for female athletes at colleges and universities that
receive federal funds.
The survey results "do not reflect the type of progress we all
thought we were making," said Cedric W. Dempsey, the
N.C.A.A.'s executive director. "We still have a long way to go,
and we hope this will spur our institutions to move at a much
faster pace."
Background story from The Chronicle of Higher
Education archive:
"Supreme Court Denies Brown's Appeal on
Gender Equity in Sports," 5/2/97
Information in depth:
A special section with background stories from
The Chronicle and documents on Title IX and
intercollegiate athletics
(see the web site at: http://chronicle.com -- you need a password)
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 11:42:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alicia L Roberts
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: HELP!
Message-ID:
It is hard for me to help not seeing her play and not knowing exactly
what ability of a goalie she is, stats aren't everything (was she at the
open tryout in GR over the weekend because then maybe I saw her play?).
What high school does she play for? Going to the hockey schools is the
first step toward becoming noticed by college coaches (that's how I did
it). Personally, I would recommend going back to play with the girls.
She can dual roster in Michigan so she may be able to play with the boys,
but then you run into the problems of the Michigan High School Athletic
Association rules if she still plays high school. Also, don't let her under
estimate Michigan State or UofM's club teams. It won't be much longer I
don't think until they go varsity and in order for the programs to
survive, they will need talented players to get the program off the
ground in a hurry. I heard some of the other schools in the Midwest are
going varsity in a few short years, too. If you still have questions
about whether or not she would have the ability to play at the D-I
college level (the only ones who give scholarships at the moment), I'm
sure Coach Kay or one of the other coaches would be able to answer any
questions. You can email Coach Kay at email@hidden. Don't knock
academic scholarships, if I had I wouldn't be here.
Alicia Roberts
UNH Wildcats #31
On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Jeff Granger wrote:
> HELP ! College coaches & players: I'm soliciting comments to reinforce my
> side of a conflict that I will have to deal with come August, involving where
> my daughter will play her senior year of hockey.
> Here are the facts: 1) the 96-97 season was only her 3rd year of playing
> goalie. 2) she was good enough this season to be chosen as one of two
> starting goalies for Team Mich. Midget "A" (state champs) 3) she then quit
> Team MI to play for her H.S. boys team and ended up playing only 10
> periods of a 20 game season! (she was nearly as good as the boy goalie)
> 4) the H.S. coaching staff couldn't coach their way out of a paper bag
> 5) she has played, so far in her career, aprox. 85 periods total in goal
> 6) she has only reached about 75% of her potential and desperately wants
> to learn more. She will be attending the Tretiak Goaltending School and a
> Rink Sport camp this summer. 7) she carries a GPA of between 3.7-3.8 at
> an extremely competitive and academically demanding school 8) she is
> determined to get a scholarship based on hockey playing versus her
> academics 9) as of now she has every intention of making starting goalie
> next season for her H.S. team.
> Do I insist that she has to play "girls" her senior year so that she can
> actually play and be seen by college coaches at tournaments and possibly
> get picked up by a college varsity team, or do I let her set on the H.S. bench
> her senior year? Thanks, Jeff Granger,hockey dad, coach, & player.
>
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