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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 350
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Not enough teams!!!
by email@hidden (Patti Jankun)
2) Re: Not enough teams!!!
by email@hidden (Sheryl-Lyn Ekberg)
3) Toronto Star newspaper articles
by Andria Hunter
4) Stick Checking
by email@hidden (Sheryl-Lyn Ekberg)
5) Great numbers news
by email@hidden
6) Re: Not enough teams!!!
by "Ashmun, Julia D"
7) fundraisers
by email@hidden
8) Conditioning
by Kaori Itou
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 96 15:07:58 EDT
From: email@hidden (Patti Jankun)
To: email@hidden
Cc: email@hidden (Subscribers to)
Subject: Re: Not enough teams!!!
Message-ID:
HI
I currently play in this league and there is a problem this year with teams
being full. THere are currently 24 teams in the league, split into 3
divisions. The Silver (middle) division is the level that has the most
players.(it's a *B* division) This year is the worst for players not being able
to be place. I'm not really sure why, accept for the fact that Women's hockey
is becoming very popular, which is a good thing! Teams are carrying 15-17
skaters. I've had a few women call me too. We had a couple of the higher level
teams fold and those players were picked up elsewhere. We did add teams this
year. My understanding is that there has to be an even amount of teams, a
scheduling issue. Plus we need to have the ice time to support the teams...24
teams is very large and we are split over 3 rinks and with ice time becoming
more difficult to get...It is a known issue. You could form a team but right now
you would not be able to join the league, it's too late for this year. If you
have any questions I'll try to help, or I do have a couple names of women who
want to skate.
Patti
This is a big problem. I cant even get on a senior team in the SSWHL
(Massachusetts) If there's
anyone out there in the Massachusetts area that wants to form a team of
"strays" like myself, lets pull together and see what we can do about it.
It's worth a try....
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:24:28 -0500
From: email@hidden (Sheryl-Lyn Ekberg)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Not enough teams!!!
Message-ID:
From Patty in Mass.:
...there is a problem this year with teams being full. The *B* division
has the most players. This year is the worst for players not being able
to be place. We had a couple of the higher level teams fold and those
players were picked up elsewhere. We did add teams this year. We need to
have the ice time to support the teams and with ice time is becoming
more difficult to get.
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In Minnesota we have experienced very similar problems, but it seems to
occur year after year. The A league is always in jeopardy of losing teams,
the B league has too many teams and our C league does fine due to the
number of new players joining and as they improve they move to the B
league.
Once on a B team, most players tend to stay and the A league has great
difficulty in growing. This year we lost one A team and the team I play on
was in jeopardy of folding except we picked up players from the A team that
had to fold.
Our Senior women's league has a governing body and I know there are players
looking for new teams in the same division or in a division above theirs,
as well as teams looking for players. We also have a lot of Women asking
how they can get on a team for the first time in our league. We have
commissioners for each division and in the past that is how player changes
or team additions are communicated. I suggested and volunteered to
maintain a database of players looking to move and of teams who were
looking for players. I would field all calls and get the appropriate
information out to the caller. So far not a lot of bite on this one. I am
spreading the word and seem to have the support of other league members, as
a viable method to help teams and players. I also seem to have the support
as the impartial person to deal with the calls.
As far as ice time, some division commissioners will get as much as they
can and the teams are welcome to buy it and use it for games. Also many
teams find ice on their own and they will use it for games and practices.
Each team needs to find enough ice to play home games.
We hold a scheduling meeting in each division where a schedule of rounds is
handed out. Each round has teams scheduling with a different team and
states who is the home team. You meet with the team you are scheduled to
play and find a compatible game time on the home teams ice. If the number
of teams permit, a new set of rounds is used where the rounds reverse and
the home team becomes the visiting team. Once this is done the referees
get the division game schedules. Many of our games do not even start until
10:00 P.M. because of the ice need. But it is a sacrifice that needs to be
made if you want to play ice hockey as an adult.
Sheryl (TwinCity Express)
A Team on the verge of extinction, but with a strong will to go on.
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:12:44 -0400
From: Andria Hunter
To: email@hidden
Cc: email@hidden
Subject: Toronto Star newspaper articles
Message-ID:
Hi Everyone!
Well, first some very good news ... I have finally finished my MSc
thesis!! Yes!! What a relief to have that out of the way! :-) Now,
I'll have some time to rehab my injury, and hopefully I'll be playing
again in no time at all! :-)
I noticed a couple of new articles that the Toronto Star newspaper has
published recently. I have been told that they are trying to carry one
article a day, leading up to the Three Nations tournament in Ottawa
this weekend (Oct. 20-27).
Yesterday they had an article called "Canadian women begin quest for
Olympic gold." It gave a preview of the Three Nations tournament.
The three teams that will be competing in the tournament are Canada,
Finland, and the USA. These teams are among the best women's hockey
nations, so it's bound to be quite the tournament! I think the US team
is having a two week training/tryout camp prior to the tournament. The
Canadian team began their preparation at the Orleans Sportsplex just
outside Ottawa on Tuesday October 14th. The Canadian team plans to
narrow the squad from 33 women to 24 or 26 women who will compete in
the Three Nations Cup.
I will provide a link to the above Toronto Star article from my Three
Nations web page (http://www.cs.utoronto.ca/~andria/Three_Nations_96.html).
You can get to the three Nations page from the "recent additions" section
of my main index web page, or from the "international" page.
http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~andria/Index.html
http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~andria/International_Hockey.html
If anyone has information about the times of the games at the Three
Nations tournament, please send it to me and I'll add it to the web page.
The Toronto Star newspaper also had an article about my web pages
today! You can view that article from my main index page, or from
the Three Nations web page.
http://www.thestar.com/thestar/editorial/sports/961016SPD03_NET16.html
(NOTE: This URL will disappear after Oct. 16, but the article
will still be available through my web pages.)
If there is enough interest, I will send the two Toronto Star
articles that I have described above to this mailing list.
That's all for now. Have a great day, eh! :-)
Andria
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:15:39 -0500
From: email@hidden (Sheryl-Lyn Ekberg)
To: email@hidden, email@hidden
Subject: Stick Checking
Message-ID:
I posted this question on the email@hidden hockey list
because I figured knew it would get a much greater response there.
Robert responded:
>
> I have coached in a non contact league for 7 years now and I still can't
> get
> this one right. I am looking for someone who is well informed (preferably
> a
> referee or an official's supervisor) to help me out on what is and is not
> permitted in the way of Stick Checking. The rules with respect to hooking
> and slashing are quite clear. However, they make no distinction between
> the
> body or the stick. I have had players called for hooking, because they
> "clamp down" on the puck carrier's stick and do not release. Although I
> have never seen a player penalized for lifting a player's stick to get the
> puck, I have seen a player get a hooking penalty for lifting the stick and
> holding it there for 2 or 3 seconds. Please consider each of the following
> situations (in ALL instances the player being "checked" has the puck):
I've got the CHA 95/96 Rule Book/Case Book Combination open in front
of me for this one:
>
> 1) A defending player lifts the puck carrier's stick and holds it for more
> than a couple of seconds. Hooking?
> 4) A defending player clamps down on the puck carriers stick for a second
> or two and another defending player picks up the puck. Holding? Hooking?
Rule 64(a): Penalty if a player 'impedes or seeks to impede the progress
of an opponent by "hooking" with his stick.'
Situation 1: (a) A stick hooking another stick (wood on wood) still
constitutes hooking.
By this, I would say #4 definitely, and #1 maybe, but probably not.
It would depend on the circumstances, though. A key is Situation 1 (b):
When a player TURNS THE BLADE OF HIS STICK OVER [my emphasis] to
impede an opponent's progress...a hooking penalty must be called.
Lifting the stick doesn't apply (but if it's above the waist, it
could be high-sticking).
> 2) A defending player lightly slashes the puck carriers stick (no contact
> with the body). The "slash" is only strong enough to upset the stick
> handle
> and the puck is left behind. Slashing?
>
> 3) A defending player slashes the puck carriers stick so hard that the
> puck
> carrier loses their stick. Slashing?
#2 is perfectly kosher. #3 is usually going to be a penalty--not so much
because it was 'hard enough to knock out the stick', but because slashing
that hard usually implies less of an intent to get the puck and more of
an intent to 'get' the player. IMHO, rule 79(c) is the key:
A "slashing" penalty shall be assessed any player who swings her stick
at an opponent...without actually striking her, or who, on the pretext
of playing the puck, makes a wild swing at the puck WITH THE OBJECT OF
INTIMIDATING HER OPPONENT. [my emphasis]
To me, those capped words are the difference between #2 and #3.
Gotta be careful, though--if the puck carrier only has one hand on the
stick, I might let it go.
I also look for where the slash is at. If it's low--aimed at the puck--
I'm more likely to let it go. If it's high--closer to the hands--I'll
call it.
Others?
Robert
--
Robert Slaven, Legislative Assembly of the N.W.T. * Yellowknife, NT, Canada
The survival of democracy depends on the ability of large numbers of people
to make realistic choices in the light of adequate information. -- A.Huxley
**********Just 'cause I work for 'em doesn't mean I speak for 'em**********
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:34:29 -0600
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Great numbers news
Message-ID:
The numbers for Minnesota this season look to be:
35 senior women's teams
188 midget, peewee, & squirt teams
67 high school teams
25 junior varisty high school teams
12 college teams (club/ one is varsity)
for a GRAND total of 339 teams! Sweet! I remember when there were
20 teams and thought it was great when we went up to 40!!!!!!!!
Dorene
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 96 18:42:00 EDT
From: "Ashmun, Julia D"
To: women-in-hockey
Subject: Re: Not enough teams!!!
Message-ID:
If you decide to create a team, contact me for the names of more players
looking for teams. Also, for info on setting up scrimmages against teams in
various leagues, possible using their practice ice. Also, there are a
number of unregistered teams in MA, NH, VT, Maine, NY, CT, etc. that might
look forward to scrimmages.
Julia
email@hidden
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From: women-in-hockey
To: Subscribers to
Subject: Re: Not enough teams!!!
Date: Wednesday, October 16, 1996 8:17AM
HI
I currently play in this league and there is a problem this year with teams
being full. THere are currently 24 teams in the league, split into 3
divisions. The Silver (middle) division is the level that has the most
players.(it's a *B* division) This year is the worst for players not being
able
to be place. I'm not really sure why, accept for the fact that Women's
hockey
is becoming very popular, which is a good thing! Teams are carrying 15-17
skaters. I've had a few women call me too. We had a couple of the higher
level
teams fold and those players were picked up elsewhere. We did add teams this
year. My understanding is that there has to be an even amount of teams, a
scheduling issue. Plus we need to have the ice time to support the
teams...24
teams is very large and we are split over 3 rinks and with ice time becoming
more difficult to get...It is a known issue. You could form a team but right
now
you would not be able to join the league, it's too late for this year. If
you
have any questions I'll try to help, or I do have a couple names of women
who
want to skate.
Patti
This is a big problem. I cant even get on a senior team in the SSWHL
(Massachusetts) If there's
anyone out there in the Massachusetts area that wants to form a team of
"strays" like myself, lets pull together and see what we can do about it.
It's worth a try....
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:03:54 -0400
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: fundraisers
Message-ID:
Here's an issue I haven't seen so far:
I belong to an independent senior women's team in Ohio. While we have found
that getting press is easy to come by (two newspaper articles, four t.v. news
spots), we have found that it is very hard to get sponsors or donations.
Does anyone know of any good fundraisers for women's hockey? We are open to
just about anything, and have come up with: 1.) night at the races (there
seems to be a lack of enthusiasm for this one), and 2.) A huge garage sale (a
little late), and 3.) Road trip to Windsor to gamble.
Has anyone had any luck with seeking donations? What approach would one use?
Letters with pictures? Simple one-letter requests? I would appreciate ANY
response. Since we are "adults" I am not sure that people see us an a
worthwhile organization to contribute to.
Thanks
Lori Switaj
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:27:55 +0900 (JST)
From: Kaori Itou
To: email@hidden
Subject: Conditioning
Message-ID:
Hi.
This is Kaori,from Japan.I play Ice hockey in Tokyo.My team is RED BULLETS.Our team was best 8 in all japan women's Ice Hockey Tournament.I am 21years old.
I am thinking that after graduating from college I would like to go to Seattle to study.But I do'nt want to quit Ice Hockey.Do you know any women's team arounnd Seattle and Tacoma and Federal Way.And do you know how to contact?
Please give me your mail.
Kaori Itoh
email@hidden
Thank you.
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