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			    WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 366

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Men's vs. Women's Hockey
	by email@hidden
  2) Help in unsubscribing
	by email@hidden
  3) 98 Olympics
	by email@hidden
  4) Re: Men's vs. Women's Hockey
	by email@hidden
  5) Re: Equipment for women, refs and men vs women's game
	by email@hidden
  6) pelvic protectors
	by "SYRILYN TONG" 
  7) Re: 98 Olympics
	by email@hidden (Laurie Solgon)
  8) Re: Men's vs. Women's Hockey
	by Ingrid Moon 

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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 05:13:47 PST
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Cc: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Men's vs. Women's Hockey
Message-ID: 

I play recreational ice hockey with both men and women her in California.
 I am small so I learned to use my skating skills.  I do not play in any
checking leagues, however, there is still a great deal of contact.  I
find that by knowing how to skate, position my body, when I am hit, I am
left standing and the "goon" is on the ice.

The best advice I have heard, learn how to skate, the rest will come.  My
skating skills has also made is easier to learn how to puck handle and
shoot.  Not that I am bragging, I am not, I have a long way to go.  I
have been playing for 2 years and have spent most of my time learning
how to skate.  Think about it, hockey is the only sport where you have
to learn how to play the sport and learn how to physically do something
(skate) not like soccer, you already know how to run.  etc....

Colleen

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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:55:09 -0500
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Help in unsubscribing
Message-ID: 

Please help me unsubscribe!  I have tried to follow the published directions
and they didn't work.  I have tried other standard methods and they don't
work. Thanks.

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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 09:56:42 -0500
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: 98 Olympics
Message-ID: 

Does anyone know:

1) Exactly when and where are the Olympics?
2) Might we be able to watch women's hockey on t.v.? (probably not)
3) How do tryouts for the team work?

Thanks for any info.


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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:18:58 -0500
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Men's vs. Women's Hockey
Message-ID: 


In a message dated 10/31/96 8:44:07 PM, you wrote:

<>

I think next time I buy skates I need a narrower fit... I find the support
around the ankles to be inadequate and without the use of heavy tape just
plain wobbley.  I don't have a small foot either... (size 10) but I can never
seem to get those skates tight enough.  Let us know if you get info on hockey
skates made to fit women's feet rather than all those Barney Rubble's out
there.
Lisa A.

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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 96 10:03:35 PST
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Equipment for women, refs and men vs women's game
Message-ID: 

     On the subject of equipment for women...
     
     I have seen in the Hockey Barrie Catalog (0n the internet) that 
     Tackla makes hockey pants for women.  Many of the women here 
     prefer the men's Tackla pants because of the fit and the added 
     tailbone protection that they have.  I have not seen the women's 
     version other than in the catalog, but knowing how popular the 
     men's model is with the women, this might be good to look in to.
     
     Also in the Ocean Catalog there is a women's version of the Jock 
     Pro available (compression pants with built in pelvic protector 
     and Velcro for the garters.  They look comfortable.
     
     My daughter has the Cooper women's chest protector.  When she 
     first started playing the men's versions were ok, but as she 
     developed the chest protector didn't fit as well.  The women's 
     version has a curved longer front the covers better.
     
     My daughter plays in both a women's non-checking league and in a 
     Midget Coed league (checking).  The difference in the play that 
     she sees, and a subject that is discussed often here is, the male 
     aggression level.  Refs here actually prefer ref'ing the women's 
     games because they rarely have to break up a fight between 
     players (although it has been known to happen in a women's game). 
     In my daughter's last game, her coed team compiled over 16 
     penalty minutes in the third period thanks to immature male 
     hormones taking over where common sense should have prevailed.  
     The game degenerated to a goonfest instead of a hockey game.
     
     I have talked to many people who prefer the finesse and ability 
     the women have verse the sheer brute force often employed by the 
     men.  My daughter joked after the last game that she was going to 
     lace the snacks with estrogen to give the boys on the team some 
     sense.  We are not against checking, it has its place and a small 
     women can throw a hip check sometimes better than a man, but 
     aggression should not be encouraged.


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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:04:46 AST9ADT
From: "SYRILYN TONG" 
To: email@hidden
Subject: pelvic protectors
Message-ID: 

Hey there! I'm new to this list as a writer, but have been 
reading with interest many of the subjects that have been 
addressed.  The subject of pelvic protectors piqued my 
interest, as I personally know the female player who was 
injured by a skater skating over her.  She was a goalie 
playing against men, when she blocked a shot, but in the 
process, he skated over her.  She incurred major trauma and 
lacerations and was hospitalized from it.  As a result, she 
is suing Cooper (the manufacturer) because it was a female 
pelvic protector, and it certainly didn't (protect).  I 
myself wear a D&R pelvic protector (a skater's model, not a 
goalie model), but as with all of the rest of 
my goalie gear, I have beefed it up considerably, and I 
will never step on the ice without it (whether as a skater 
or as a goalie).  My recommendation is always wear one, 
because even if you are not in a "high-caliber" league, you 
could always accidentally get whacked with a stick, or have 
some other fluke accident.  If the one you buy doesn't fit 
right, get another, or modify the one you have. Mine is so 
comfortable that I don't even know I have it on, but I sure 
know when it ISN'T on!  Happy skating!!

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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:57:23 -0700 (MST)
From: email@hidden (Laurie Solgon)
To: email@hidden,
Subject: Re: 98 Olympics
Message-ID: 

At 07:07 AM 11/1/96 -0800, email@hidden wrote:
>Does anyone know:
>
>1) Exactly when and where are the Olympics?


The Winter Olympics are going to be in Nagano, Japan.  The 2002 Winter
Olympics are in Salt Lake City.  You can find out further information at
http://www.olympic.org/index.html.


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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 20:29:20 -0800
From: Ingrid Moon 
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Men's vs. Women's Hockey
Message-ID: 

email@hidden wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 10/31/96 8:44:07 PM, you wrote:
> 
> < equipment? Don't even ask me about finding skates for a long, NARROW foot.>>
> 
> I think next time I buy skates I need a narrower fit... I find the support
> around the ankles to be inadequate and without the use of heavy tape just
> plain wobbley.  I don't have a small foot either... (size 10) but I can never
> seem to get those skates tight enough.  Let us know if you get info on hockey
> skates made to fit women's feet rather than all those Barney Rubble's out
> there.
> Lisa A.

It is difficult esp. for us big-footed women to find anything reasonable
for our feet.  Since you are supposed to go a size or two smaller in
skate size than your normal shoe size (because they're made large and
you bend your knees to pull the toes off the front of the skate) you
should technically end up with narrower skates also.  Every brand and
style, and indeed every individual skate, varies; you just have to try
them all on and find the best fit.  As for ankle support, here's my two
cents:

Unlike much of the other equipment, with skates you get what you pay
for.  Though skates are extremely expensive, getting high quality ankle
support in the higher-end models is very well worth the money.

Gel is much better than air because it is stronger and retains its shape
better and takes a slower mold of your ankle.  Harder to break in =
harder to break down.  (some people disagree with this but "to each
his/her own".)

I use Jr. size 6E (boys) Comps and I wear size 10 shoe women's (8
men's).  I have standard width feet but the size 6 Comps are pretty darn
snug around the sides.  I almost bought the 6-1/2's because they were a
little wider in the width (the E and esp. the EE) but I figured they'd
break in.  They didn't, they're still quite snug, but I love it.  Also,
the cost of the Jr.s was $50 cheaper than the half-size larger Sr.s!

I hope that makes any sense at all--good luck finding great skates.

Ingrid



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