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At 11:24 PM 1/21/2003 -0700, Dan Guard wrote:

>From: Mon Jan 20 15:53:13 2003
>
>So much of the important detail is not explained in this article.  What was
>the category of the girls' team?  What was the category they entered in the
>boys' tournament?  How did they get approval from the OWHA to play in a
>boys' tournament?
>
>Louise
>
>*I've got a bunch more questions than Louise...
>
>what am I not aware of here? I cannot conceive of any legal means that would
>deny an all-girls' team from participating in any hockey tournament
>whatsoever. The reverse is also true. The only legal avenue open to any
>sports tournament organizor who wishes gender separation is to provide
>seperate, timely, quality events for each gender. Was there an alternative
>event that the girls' team could have entered?

1.  In order to play teams outside the OWHA (e.g. teams from other 
provinces, USA Hockey teams, or boys' teams), an OWHA team must apply for 
and receive sanction from our governing body.  This is a condition of our 
insurance.  While we are still receiving this approval to play exhibition 
or league games against boys teams, (when the boys' teams are properly 
registered with their own governing body and this is documented), the OWHA 
will no longer approve a sanction request to play in a boys' tournament, 
except in very rare cases where a team is unable to find girls' tournaments 
for their category.

2.  The organizers of a tournament do have the option of turning down any 
entrant, or of making a rule that they are accepting entries from only 
within their own governing body.  The legal situation is probably different 
in Ontario than it is in Texas.

>The article seems to indicate that various of these girls also play co-ed on
>house league, or other teams, as well as the Dolphins. Is the Dolphins a
>separate, travel team?

The Dolphins team is almost certainly a full-time competitive team.   The 
ones who also play on boys' teams probably play on boys' rep teams.

>The article also appears to indicate that the Dolphins is either a house
>league team in an all-girls' teams division, or it is a "franchise, gold"
>team that is allowed to cull all the best players from the area, and then
>gets to beat up on the other, hapless, second-class teams in house league
>play.

Neither is likely to be the case.  This Dolphins team is almost certainly 
an Atom AA team.  They play in the North Metro Girls' Hockey League, in the 
top Atom group of other female competitive 
teams.  http://www.nmghl.org/teams-index.html  The Etobicoke Dolphins 
association has about 500 female players.  The North Metro league is an 
intense, highly competitive league.  Many of the players on the Dolphins 
team will have been playing competitive hockey for three or four years 
already.

(Notice that the North Metro league includes 28 Atom competitive 
teams.  Multiply this number by 4-6 to estimate the total number of female 
Atom teams in the greater Toronto area.)

As to why they are on top of their league, I certainly wouldn't jump to the 
conclusion that they'd been breaking the OWHA's tampering rule by 
recruiting from other teams.  There may be a variety of different reasons 
for that.  I would definitely not call any team in NMGHA Tier One "hapless" 
or "second-class".

>If this is the same level as the other (boys) teams in the tournament, then
>great...however, if the Dolphins get to pick the best 14 girl squirt players
>from the entire Toronto metro area, and they get to then play against boys
>teams that are formed from areas much smaller, then that taints somewhat
>their glory.


I wondered about those things too.  I don't know what level of GTHA hockey 
would be comparable to OWHA Atom AA, and frankly I don't really care.


Louise

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