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Women-in-Hockey Digest Saturday, April 8 2000 Volume 01 : Number 650
In this issue:
RE: SLAM! Team USA Game Stories
Re: SLAM! Team USA Game Stories
re-media
RE: SLAM! Team USA Game Stories
More on lack of confidence/fear of failure in Girls
U-19 Nationals
Who's SLAMing who?
Globe and Mail on a Pro League for Women
Preview of Canada/Finland
More Articles
US TV Schedule for the Women's Worlds
WWHC Coverage in US
Canada/Finland after 40 minutes- Spoiler
Canada/Finland Final
Allderdice High School
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Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:31:42 -0600
From: Danielle Dufour
Subject: RE: SLAM! Team USA Game Stories
Dear Kelly, and list:
I have been on this list since way back when. I hardly ever comment,
however read all (most) comments with an open mind and respect for the game.
When I read comments like this below - It makes me feel very bad for her.
If you only knew the comaraderie both these teams have and demonstrate
toward each other - the respect they give each other when putting on their
"Team" jersey and making "their" country proud every time they step on the
ice. Kelly, for you to make comments such as this, you are adding to all of
the frustrations female hockey players experience on a daily basis. Both of
these teams are made up of exceptional hockey players who are all equal
individuals who put their team first. I know each and every Canadian Player
personally that went to Nagano, and a few USA players as well. I'll tell
you one thing..... If any of you were given the opportunity to meet or speak
with either team - You will never meet a more respectfull, caring,
PASSIONATE group of individuals. I don't think I ever will. Kelly, I'm
sorry but I think you really need to step back and take a moment to think
about what your typing before you type it.
Yours in Hockey,
Danielle Dufour
Female Develpment
CANADIAN HOCKEY ASSOCIATION
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From: email@hidden [mailto:email@hidden]
Sent: 07 April 2000 11:42
To: email@hidden
Subject: SLAM! Team USA Game Stories
Why is it that the US team is always made out to be the bad people by the
Canadian Media? Has anyone read through the articles on SLAM! and other
areas
around the web. The references to Team USA are garbage! Here are a few
examples from just ONE story that I found on SLAM! concerning last nights
game versus Finland.
"Cinderella (meaning Finland) getting a pretty good shot at the mean, old
stepmother"
"It was the wallflower embarrassing the prom queen"
"the mousey cousin outstepping the supermodel on her own runway"
"the charwoman one-upping the grande dame"
What kind of reporting is this! Oh, I forgot, the almighty Team Canada are
all princesses, right! Tell you folks what, you can take all five of your
World golds, melt them into one, and they still won't equal that one OLYMPIC
gold medal! Until you win the big show, your are not the champions!
I guess the reason for all this negativity towards the US is that our team
possesses one thing the Canadians will never have....CLASS! Our team is
respectful and gracious, yours is boisterous and a bunch of sore losers! God
I hope the US whips the crap out of the Princesses.
Kelly #24
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Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:43:42 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: SLAM! Team USA Game Stories
<< So what you're saying is that Team USA have been to finishing school and
are
more "lady-like" than the Canadians? Maybe USA should be referred to as the
Princesses, then? >>
You know what Phil, pretty much all of them (Team USA) have graduated from
college except for our two high schoolers or current college players. Team
Canada on the other hand has a bunch of bums who quit jobs to play or who
were stoners (#61) in college. I'd say we're "Princesses", yes!
Kelly #24
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Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:19:13 -0300 (ADT)
From: unknown
Subject: re-media
I think the main issue is each country and their media supporting
their womens hockey teams. I hope China and the other lower caliber teams
get the recognition they deserve. The US is Canada's rival(a well good
rivalry with great competition) so of course many of the Canadian media
will be biased, as would any other team in the same situation. But to be
fair each and everyone of the teams deserve positive news for their
accomplishments and if hopefully they don't receive it they know
themselves.
Let it be a great tournament with good sportmanship :)
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 01:20:34 -0400
From: Debbie Minden
Subject: RE: SLAM! Team USA Game Stories
Don't believe everything you read in the press! In order to sell papers,
you have to add a little gossip, throw in a bit of inuendo, and say
something to stir the pot. The press both north and south of the border
are guilty of jingoism. To take everything seriously is naive. But, where
would we be without the old Canada/US schism?
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 06:40:09 -0500
From: "Deasy, Ellen"
Subject: More on lack of confidence/fear of failure in Girls
Great summary of why as society we expect girls to fail and boys to succeed.
It is the narrowness of the niche that is so harmful, not the activity
selected.
As I was reading the email, I "morphed" forward to the working world as well
and the number of times I have heard comments such as:
- - She has kids, so she won't be able to handle the stress (mergers and
buyouts don't hold a candle to the organization skills it takes to run an
effective girl scout troop or band/sports/school boosters group)
- - She doesn't work, she is a full-time mom (I've always thought all moms
were full-time moms, and why don't you ever hear men asked if they are
full-time or part-time dads? Society sees all dads as full-time, regardless
of what else they do but moms as full-time only if they don't do anything
else)
I could not agree more that our society and many in the world expect boys
men to succeed in their chosen activities and girls/women to fail, or at
least not to have the same potential.
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 05:56:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jessica Yeo
Subject: U-19 Nationals
I'd just like to say congratulations to the Ohio
Flames who are in the quarterfinals......their game
started at 8:45 this morning.
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 06:12:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: amazed
Subject: Who's SLAMing who?
I don't think there is any site south of the border
that is dedicated to only stories pertaining to female
hockey, so you probably don't quite understand what it
is you are looking at. The SLAM page is only providing
links to newspapers connected to one chain, SUN Media.
This is the same publication that provides the
SUNSHINE girl of the day on page three. I am sure
most of you would condemn this type of journalism,
along with many north of the border as well. The one
story that has gotten all of the attention appeared in
the London Free Press. This might be the only female
hockey story that appeared all year because the game
was played in London, Ontario. The writer has never
had any story on women's hockey that I have noticed.
Keep in mind a lot of the media are as new to the game
as many of the fans. He is writing from a limited
perspective. Although, Kelly, does go all the way back
to 61's days at Northeastern and must have been
hanging out with some of the Canadian bums, or just
listening to rumours, not a very reliable source. I
wonder if DeCosta, not returning to Providence next
year, in order to train for the upcoming Olympics
makes her a bum. Wendell is putting off going all
together, at this point. What about all of the US
Select team, that trained in Lake Placid, all of the
past year. The Canadian bums have jobs and also have
the most competitive league in the world to play in,
the NWHL. In fact some of the US team play in it as
well, the bums. Earlier I was wondering about Merz and
Looney. They did play in the game against Finland. The
team list was kept at 18 because of injuries and
should they not been able to play then additions could
have been made to the US roster. Yes, the US will
always have the Olympic gold medal, in women's hockey.
The men will always have a recorded and documented
display of incredibly childish behavior.
Still Amazed by what goes on.
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 08:45:16 -0700
From: "Phil Cottrell"
Subject: Globe and Mail on a Pro League for Women
This morning's Globe and Mail:
http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/Sports/20000408/SHOWM.html
Phil, Victoria, BC
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 08:52:11 -0700
From: "Phil Cottrell"
Subject: Preview of Canada/Finland
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> Canada's team braces for semifinal challenge with Finland
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http://www.faceoff.com/WOMEN/news/story.html?f=/news/20000408/000408News1532
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 09:33:06 -0700
From: "Phil Cottrell"
Subject: More Articles
Another cop (but not a "bum") on Team Canada:
http://www.canoe.ca/HockeyWomen2000Worlds/apr7_riv.html
'Murrican Teeny-Boppers Impress/Oprah to Televise US Hockey:
http://www.canoe.ca/HockeyWomen2000Worlds/apr8_tee.html
Canada/Finland Preview from Canoe:
http://www.canoe.ca/HockeyWomen2000Worlds/apr8_unf.html
Phil, Victoria, BC
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 09:44:45 -0700
From: "Phil Cottrell"
Subject: US TV Schedule for the Women's Worlds
Well, it ain't much (tape delay and all) and this cable channel isn't
available everywhere, but here's what "Oxygen TV" (and their women's sports
program, "We Sweat") has for the long-suffering American women's hockey
fans:
4/16/2000 and 4/22/2000
2000 Women's World Ice Hockey Championships
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
We Sweat goes on site to Mississauga, Canada for the final game of the
women's world championships of ice hockey. Eight teams from all over the
world - Canada, Sweden, China and Japan in Pool A and the US, Finland,
Russia and Germany in Pool B - will complete a 20 game schedule leading up
to the final game. Rivals, the US and Canada, are favorites leading into the
tournament.
The website is:
http://www.oxygen.com/
Phil, Victoria, BC
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:25:18 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: WWHC Coverage in US
I just read an article that says Oprah Winfrey's TV network, Oxygen
Television, will be showing the final game from the WWHC on a tape delay
basis in the US. I visited the site at www.oxygen.com and found some info in
the "We Sweat" area of the site. They have some pretty cool things there on
the games and womens sports in general if anyone cares to have a look.
It appears Oxygen TV is a newer cable network so probably isn't available on
alot of systems. It looks to me like there may be capabilities online to
watch the game, when they do show it, on RealVideo.
Thought I'd post this info in case someone would be interested or would like
to look around the site.
Rob
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:02:20 -0700
From: "Phil Cottrell"
Subject: Canada/Finland after 40 minutes- Spoiler
Canada 3, Finland 2 after the second period. Good game, Finland are playing
tough. Goyette has two for Canada, Hefford the other. The indecisive
officiating is painful to watch. Two goals involved conferences with
everyone, though the ref was in perfect position to make the calls on the
spot. Commentators are strongly implying that "the best refs" (ie. men)
should be in this tournament, as it is a World Championship.
This ought to get a discussion going :)
Phil, Victoria, BC
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:46:47 -0700
From: "Phil Cottrell"
Subject: Canada/Finland Final
A real nail-biter, Canada wins 3-2 and goes into the final tomorrow.
Phil
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:00:20 -0400
From: Debbie Minden
Subject: Allderdice High School
Does anyone know anyone who plays for Allderdice High School in Pittsburgh?
My daughter is looking for a second team for the coming school year.
Thanks for the help.
Debbie Minden
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