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Women-in-Hockey Digest Thursday, January 7 1999 Volume 01 : Number 342
In this issue:
Congratulations! (Was Re: hockey headers)
women's/girl's hockey t-shirt
re: Re: WIH Tendonitis
re: Re: WIH Tendonitis
Re: WIH Tendonitis
re: Re: WIH Tendonitis
Clipart and/or girl's hockey t-shirt
Re: WIH Tendonitis
Re: WIH Tendonitis
Re: Clipart and/or girl's hockey t-shirt
Re: Clipart and/or girl's hockey t-shirt
WIH:female planet website
women's hockey
Re: women's hockey
Re: Congratulations! (Was Re: hockey headers)
re: Re: WIH Tendonitis
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 20:53:12 -0500
From: Louise
Subject: Congratulations! (Was Re: hockey headers)
At 02:57 PM 1/6/99 EST, email@hidden wrote:
>Jennie
>Ooh by the way, I FINALLY started playing ice hockey (after 4 years of just
>roller hockey)
Congratulations! How do you like it so far? Are you playing with women?
Didn't we tell you not to give up?
Louise
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 19:03:07 -0800
From: Annette Chernin
Subject: women's/girl's hockey t-shirt
Hello everyone,
If you like you can check out some women's ice hockey shirts at:
We just put a new design on the site. It may be the nicest one yet.
Check it out at:
http://www.tropicalpenguin.com/hockey.html
Thanks,
Annette
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:29:22 -0800
From: Chuq_Von_Rospach
Subject: re: Re: WIH Tendonitis
>Ok, I have yet another injury, nothing new. I have
>tendonitis in my right thumb.
>I was wondering if anyone knew
>what the best thing to do for it is.
Tendonitis can be a real hassle. First thing to realize is that it's a
slow-to-occur, chronic injury, and because tendons have terrible
bloodflow, are very slow to heal. you can't hurry them, and you really
shouldn't ignore it. I finally got nailed by it in my wrist last year,
and even though mine was minor, I spent a month splinted and three months
total getting it under control.
So here are a few hints:
1) ibuprofen is your friend. My doctor put my on a double-strength dose,
but you'll need to figure out what level you can tolerate. The trick here
is to make sure you take it religiously, because you want to build the
level and keep it in the system -- taking one every four hours is a lot
more important than tolerating two twice a day. you want to get it into
your system and keep it there, so you're talking about taking a lot of
this stuff for a number of weeks. it's preferred over asprin, because it's
anti-inflammatory power is better. Not sure what your body weight is, but
unless you can't use ibuprofen for some reason, I'd start with a full dose
every six hours for a few days, then try stepping it up and see if you
tolerate it. If you do, use it. If not, don't. I *still* take ibuprofen
once a day, six months later. Don't mix your anti-inflammatories, either.
If you're been using something else, stop it while you treat this.
2) ice is your next friend. It helps cut the inflammation and settle
things down. don't overuse it, but use it a lot. My doctor wanted 20
minutes of ice every couple of hours, as often as I could get away with it
(sometimes at work, usually 2-3 times at home). How you do it depends on
your preferences. I used styrofoam cups and froze water in them, and then
tore down the foam to make the ice accessible. Traditional icebags work. A
co-worker kept bags of frozen peas stuck in the freezer at work and used
those (and frankly, I wish I'd thought of that...)
3) immobilization. You don't want to stress the tendon, so you want to
limit moving it. If it were a wrist, Id' tell you to just buckle down and
wear a nerd tuxedo on the wrist. Not as sure how to easily immobilize a
thumb, but you want to keep it from moving as much as possible (and here's
a big hint people don't think about -- sometimes, the worst stress of the
tendon happens when you're at sleep if the arm/wrist/joint gets put into a
funny position. I found it really helped to sleep with the wrist splinted)
4) massage. My doctor had some interesting (and preliminary) data
indicating that massage could really help -- by massaging the area, it
encourages the fluid circulation to help draw oxygen down to the tendon
(remember, it has terrible blood flow...). I did it. It tended to reduce
the soreness, so it sure didn't hurt.
5) time. patience. Standard treatment for tendonitis is to immobilize it
for a month, douse your system with antiinflammatories, use the ice and
massage, and do it for a full MONTH -- and then see if you're starting to
respond. If you are, great. If you aren't, they'll try more radical
things. In other words, you can't take asprin for a week and expect to do
anything but fool yourself.
By the way, the "cracking knuckles" stuff isn't the tendon -- it's more
likely cartilage. Different beast entirely. So don't be positive that what
you have is tendonitis without a diagnosis. But if you want to self-treat,
start with the ibuprofen, ice and immobilization (and heck, the massage
can't hurt) and do it for a full month. if it's not better, then you
better see a doctor. If it is, keep it up for at least another month, and
once the chronic pain is gone, you can probably give up the
immobilization, but I'd keep up the heavy ibuprofen and ice for a full
three months. Otherwise, all you'll do is make it sub-clinical so it
doesn't bother you very much -- and then you'll simply go start making it
worse again, and it'll be back.
Mine, in fact, isn't completely gone, and I probably need to go get
serious about that again. it's mostly gone, but I can still feel it some
days. This isn't something you can just put in a hot tub for a week,
jessica. you'll need to take care and be willing to fight it for a while.
chuq
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Chuq Von Rospach, Plaidworks Consulting
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 22:48:06 -0800
From: Anne Paulson
Subject: re: Re: WIH Tendonitis
At 10:29 PM 1/6/99 -0800, Chuq_Von_Rospach wrote:
>>1) ibuprofen is your friend.
While we're doing armchair medicine here, let me put in my two cents.
Ibuprofen (sold under the names Motrin and Advil, but I buy the
generic stuff in big bottles) is definitely your friend, but it does
cause ulcers. Basically it eats away at your stomach. So it's a good
idea to have it with some food. If you start feeling vague nausea
all the time, and you take ibuprofen... well, for most of the people who
are on this list, if you feel nauseous all the time, congratulations,
you're pregnant. But if you're sure you're not pregnant, nausea is
also a sign of ulcers, so call your doctor and stop the ibu for a while.
- -- Anne Paulson
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:13:40 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: WIH Tendonitis
In a message dated 1/7/99 1:30:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, wx-
email@hidden writes:
<<
So here are a few hints:
1) ibuprofen is your friend. My doctor put my on a double-strength dose,
but you'll need to figure out what level you can tolerate.
*********DOCTOR. This is the key. While all this appears to be solid advice,
there is no subsititue for being seen by an expert in the field. Why won;t
your parents take you to the doctor? If they don't have insurance, that's
one thing. (and please, let's not get started on the problem with insurance in
the U.S.) But any other reason sounds like some form of child abuse, if you
ask me.
2) ice is your next friend. It helps cut the inflammation and settle
things down. don't overuse it, but use it a lot. My doctor wanted 20
minutes of ice every couple of hours, as often as I could get away with it
****** a great recipe for an ice pack is 1 part rubbing alcohol, 4 parts
water, and a ziploc bag. It stays really cold, yet does not freeze solid -
makes it squishy & can mold to the correct shape. Also - keep the icing
periods short. Ice draws the blood away from the area (therby reducing
swelling.) If the ice is on too long, the body will think that frostbite is
about to set in, and will send the blood back to the area, thereby defeating
the purpose of the ice.
3) immobilization. You don't want to stress the tendon, so you want to
limit moving it. If it were a wrist, Id' tell you to just buckle down and
wear a nerd tuxedo on the wrist.
*********Rollerblade wrist guards work quite well, also.
4) massage. My doctor had some interesting (and preliminary) data
indicating that massage could really help -- by massaging the area, it
encourages the fluid circulation to help draw oxygen down to the tendon
(remember, it has terrible blood flow...). I did it. It tended to reduce
the soreness, so it sure didn't hurt.
*******Again this is something where you should seek professional treatment.
Massage does help (it was very instrumental in the recovery of my severely
sprained ankle) - but if you do not know what you are doing you can possibly
do more harm than good.
5) time. patience.
********great advice. :-)
********also no hitch-hiking. :-)
Jill
# 77 Brooklyn Blades
# 77 LI Hurricanes
"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 06:22:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Jessica Yeo
Subject: re: Re: WIH Tendonitis
well, if i feel nauseous, trust me, it wont be
because im pregnant, just so you know, i just turned
16, if that helps w/ any suggestions. Oh Chuq, you
talked alot about doctors in your message. Well,
first of all our trainer said it was tendonitis (my
soccer), and second of all, my parents dont take me
to the doctors for anything. So basically Im on my
own here.
===
Jessica (AirYeo) Yeo#4 Sylvania Maple Leafs
The Womens Hockey World
http://www.angelfire.com/oh/whockey
Official Defiance Bulldogs Girls Soccer Site
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/3955/index.html
Official Sylvania Maple Leafs Site
http://www.angelfire.com/oh/SylvaniaMapleLeafs
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:03:35 -0700
From: Shawn
Subject: Clipart and/or girl's hockey t-shirt
>Also does anyone know where I can get a youth sized t-shirt (or an iron on
>or any clothing)with a girls hockey slogan ("don't tell me what I cant do",
>"girls rule", etc)
I can't tell you for sure where is a good place to buy youth clothing but
the "don't tell me what I can't do" is a Louieville slogan so you might
check their website (). Nike is also
pretty big into women's sports - I couldn't say if they have shirts though.
Also, KLSports has women's hockey items. I have ordered several things
from her so I can tell you from personal experience that they ship out
quickly and things come in good condition. I'd recommend them.
Welcome to the list!
Shawn
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 12:41:45 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: WIH Tendonitis
<< A
co-worker kept bags of frozen peas stuck in the freezer at work and used
those (and frankly, I wish I'd thought of that...) >>
unpopped popcorn in a plastic bag kept in the freezer works also. amazingly
enough there is enough moisture in it to hold the coldness. And as it warms
up it isn't as messy as melted peas.
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:35:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Jessica Yeo
Subject: Re: WIH Tendonitis
does anyone know of any stores where they have thumb
splints? Like KMart or CVS (revco) or RiteAid?
===
Jessica (AirYeo) Yeo#4 Sylvania Maple Leafs
The Womens Hockey World
http://www.angelfire.com/oh/whockey
Official Defiance Bulldogs Girls Soccer Site
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/3955/index.html
Official Sylvania Maple Leafs Site
http://www.angelfire.com/oh/SylvaniaMapleLeafs
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:44:13 -0500
From: "Jan de Regt"
Subject: Re: Clipart and/or girl's hockey t-shirt
My local pro shop had a great selection of women/girl sport T-shirts for
Christmas - I could hardly decide which one to get, they were all so
good. The company was Female Planet or Planet Female, I think, and
perhaps they have a web site, too.
Jan.
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:51:51 -0500
From: "Jan de Regt"
Subject: Re: Clipart and/or girl's hockey t-shirt
I just checked - the web site is www.femaleplanet.com, and their T shirts
are GREAT! I STILL can't decide which I like the best - I may have to
order several!
Check it out.
Jan.
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:13:08 -0800
From: Tammie Weigl
Subject: WIH:female planet website
The address for female planet is http://www.femaleplanet.com/.
They have some GREAT sports apparel!
Tammie
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:19:00 -0800
From: Megan Bryant
Subject: women's hockey
I visited your site and noticed that you don't have a women's hockey
link.
Here is THE web site for women's hockey.
It's Andrea Hunter's web site
http://www.whockey.com
Everybody's page is linked to hers.
Thanks.
- --
Megan Bryant
Rhythm and Hues
310 448 7551
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:25:43 -0800
From: email@hidden (Megan Bryant)
Subject: Re: women's hockey
>>It's Andrea Hunter's web site
>>http://www.whockey.com
I mailed that link messege to the femal planet web master.
They had other women's sports but not hockey.
- --
Megan Bryant
Rhythm and Hues
310 448 7551
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:26:11 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Congratulations! (Was Re: hockey headers)
Yeah, I joined a women's in-house league. It's only one week into it, and its
just been a clinic kind of thing. But we had like a scrimmage thing a couple
weeks ago, which was pretty fun. It's a lot different than playing with a
bunch of guys. And yes, you all said not to give up, which I should thank you
all for so Thanks.
Jennie
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 21:44:13 -0800
From: Chuq_Von_Rospach
Subject: re: Re: WIH Tendonitis
In article , "Jessica Yeo"
wrote:
>well, if i feel nauseous, trust me, it wont be
>because im pregnant, just so you know, i just turned
>16, if that helps w/ any suggestions.
No, I'm not going to make any suggestions about whether or not you're
pregnant. I'd only get in trouble... (snicker).
But seriously. if you're 16 and have tendonitis, that's very young. The
good news is you'll likely heal more quickly than us old farts. The bad
news is you really shouldn't have tendonitis at that age. But since you
do...
>my parents dont take me
>to the doctors for anything. So basically Im on my
>own here.
We won't get into the politics of doctors. Since it's tendonitis, I'm not
going to push you at a doctor. a round of self-treatment, especially since
your trainer's looked at it, can't cause too much hassle. Try it and see.
But if it doesn't respond, get YOURSELF to a doctor, with or without mom
and dad. if necessary, track down a free clinic -- that's why they're
there (and just in general, especially since you're obviously very active
athletically, I'd find out where the free clinics are near you, because if
you ever need one, the last thing you'll want to do is waste time finding
it. Just have it stored away in case, okay?)
chuq
- --
Chuq Von Rospach, Plaidworks Consulting
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