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Women-in-Hockey Digest    Wednesday, April 14 1999    Volume 01 : Number 413



In this issue:

   Re: Febreeze
   wih  - no socks??
   Re: wih  - no socks??
   re: Febreeze
   Re: wih  - no socks??
   Re: wih  - no socks??
   Re: wih  - no socks??
   Re: wih  - no socks??
   Looking for a team
   Re: Febreeze
   "Crashing the Net"
   Ontario Privincals
   Re: [2] Febreeze
   Fw: Febreze... the P&G response
   NY State Lake Placid Tryouts

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:02:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jenn Nejedlo 
Subject: Re: Febreeze

I used that stuff in my parents car when I had to drive it for a week
(it smelled like mildew from the plants they had moved in it). It
didn't really get the smell out, but I felt really disoriented and
forgetful for the week that I had to drive it. Once I stopped driving
it, I returned to normal - whatever that is :)

I've told people not to use it, but they spray it all over themselves
just before they go on the ice - YUK!!!

Jenn

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:29:40 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: wih  - no socks??

In a message dated 99-04-13 09:40:04 EDT, you write:

<< On another note, I read on the Internet somewhere about people 
 wearing skates with no socks.  Yes, it sounds disgusting but I did it 
 last night.  Kind of gives a better feel of the ice. >>


It IS disgusting!  If you like the way it feels wihtout socks (better 
control, etc) perhaps you shoudl try a very thin pair of socks instead.  Not 
only is it more sanitary (over the long haul, your skates will get all the 
stinky sweat germs from your sweaty feet and evnetually being to smell worse 
than anything you can ever possibly imagine! - but your socks can be washed 
every time) the socks will prevent (or minimize) blisters.

Tyr the CoolMax socks.  They have moisture-wicking propreties - when you are 
done skating, yoru feet will be totally dry!  (and thus warmer while you are 
skating too! ) I;ve been using these socks for about a year -. We play 
outdoors in the winter, adn on all but the very coldest days, I have never 
had a problem with my feet being cold.    (and the stink in my skates is at a 
minimum!) 

Hope this helps.

Jill
# 77 Brooklyn Blades
# 77 LI Hurricanes

"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:28:33 -0700
From: email@hidden (Megan Bryant)
Subject: Re: wih  - no socks??

>>If you like the way it feels wihtout socks (better  control, etc) perhaps
>>you shoudl try a very thin pair of socks instead.


I use super thin socks too. They are actually labeled as baseball socks that
go under regular socks. They are called sanitary socks. They are a blend of
mostly cotton. I bought 6 pairs which lasts me a week and works for
tournaments too. (In the hopes that we make it to 6 games.)


They allow me to feel the correct amount of tightening I need.
When I used to use regular socks, the thickness would cause me to
lace my skates too loose and even though when I first laced them up
they seemed tight, by the middle of the first period the skates would
be too loose.

I love my thin socks.    :)

And I LOVE HOCKEY!!!!!!




- -- 

Megan Bryant
Rhythm & Hues                                                  Go Polar Cats!
310 448 7551

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:17:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Wendy R. Painter" 
Subject: re: Febreeze

> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:10:35 -0400 (EDT)
> From: G C L Bett 
> Subject: Re: Febreeze 
> 
> Proctor and Gamble are the target for boycotts all the time. This worry
> about Febreeze may or may not be true, but without some corroborated
> data...I'm not so sure.

Whether the urban legends page thinks this is a scam or not, I have two
friends whose pets (a dog and a hedgehog) both got really sick within
hours of having their bedding area sprayed with Febreeze.  The pets stayed
very ill for several days, until the veternarians (two different vets from
two different clinics) asked if Febreeze had been used on the pets'
bedding and recommended that the bedding be changed.  Both pets' symptoms
went away within 12 hours of having their Febreeze-sprayed bedding
removed.

Since I know these friends and their pets (who are not usually susceptible
to tummy bugs), this is enough evidence for me.  Though I suppose it could
be some really weird coincidence, I don't think the odds of that are very
high.  If you decide to use Febreeze, use it with care.

Wendy Painter

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:19:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Linda K Deno 
Subject: Re: wih  - no socks??

On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 email@hidden wrote:

> In a message dated 99-04-13 09:40:04 EDT, you write:
> 
> << On another note, I read on the Internet somewhere about people 
>  wearing skates with no socks.  Yes, it sounds disgusting but I did it 
>  last night.  Kind of gives a better feel of the ice. >>
> 
> 
> It IS disgusting!  If you like the way it feels wihtout socks (better 
> control, etc) perhaps you shoudl try a very thin pair of socks instead.  Not 
> only is it more sanitary (over the long haul, your skates will get all the 
> stinky sweat germs from your sweaty feet and evnetually being to smell worse 
> than anything you can ever possibly imagine! - but your socks can be washed 
> every time) the socks will prevent (or minimize) blisters.


I just wanted to mention that I started not wearing socks because of
blister problems and not the other way around. If you can find socks that
fit you very well and won't bunch up, that's great, but mine always seem
to be a problem. Plus I've really gotten to like the feel of skating
"barefoot". I remove the inner skate soles and throw them in the wash
after 2 or 3 games/practices and this keeps the skates far less
disgusting, and I keep the insides of the skates supple by applying a
thin layer of vaseline once or twice a year (or whenever they seem like
they're dirty I put some more on and then scrape it off again and the
dirt comes off with it). I've considered trying socks again but I'm not
really willing to risk getting more blisters. I guess what I'm trying to
say is, do whatever feels most comfortable! If that's skating barefoot,
your skates don't have be a toxic hazard site if you take care of them and
make sure they dry out between each use (it's good to remove the inner
sole to make sure they dry thoroughly).


Linda

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:55:19 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: wih  - no socks??

	I've always preferred socks myself, and the only time I got blisters 
was when breaking in the skates. At one point I used to wear two pairs of 
socks because my old roller hockey skates were too big, although the extra 
thickness never really helped anyway. But Bobby Orr never wore socks, and 
look how great he was. (for those of you who might not know who he is, he was 
a boston bruins defenseman that was famous for his end to end to end rushs 
and fakes, played very good both offensively and defensively.)
	As for the only tightening the top 3, its basically how you like it. 
If you were aiming for professional and national levels it would most likely 
be different. I don't really tighten the bottom ones, I've never seen a need 
to. I probably lace them too tight around the ankles, I've read a lot of 
things that say to keep them loose around the ankles. But if I leave them 
loose I feel like my feet will slide out from under me, and I have no 
control. Although I also have weird feet, or at I least I think so, because 
I've never found a pair of skates that don't hurt my feet. They'll be fine 
the first couple of weeks but then they start hurting the arches of my feet, 
so I dunno.

Jennie
currently #5 (I'd rather be #29 though)

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:09:34 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: wih  - no socks??

Well I don't wear any socks in my skates. I haven't since my second year of 
squirts and I am a first year Midget. I like the feel of no socks. I am use 
to it. I spray febreeze in my skates to keep them smelling good. Sometimes 
put baby powder or foot spray to stop sweating and odor in the skate. They 
have never really smelled bad in the past since not wearing socks. I get less 
blisters since I don't wear socks. My coach recommended to me not to wear 
socks in my skates one day when my feet were cold at practice (cause we play 
at an outdoor rink) and my feet never got cold again, didn't smell bad, less 
blisters, more comfortable, no more bad smelling socks. So its not that 
disgusting. Its whatever people like and is more comfortable for them. 

Maren Worley 
email@hidden
Cleveland Barons' Girls Peewee
# 6  forward & goalie

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:01:26 -0400
From: Shannon Perkins 
Subject: Re: wih  - no socks??

Hey,
 I had a friend that used to cut their mom's old pantyhose and wear those
instead of socks, because they liked the feel of no socks but got too many
blisters. Living in the great, white north of Michigan's Upper Peninsula,
I'm forced to wear warm socks every once in awhile, but I much preferr bare
feet with baby powder inside the skate. The powder keeps your feet from
sweating too much, reduces friction from the skate rubbing against the foot
and prevents blisters, and takes care of that nasty smell a lot of skates
tend to generate. Try it some time. It really cuts down on blisters and sore
feet. It's good inside your socks, too, to keep from sweating inside the
sock and making your foot uncomfortable. 

Peace,
       Shannon, The Hippie Goalie

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:27:53 -0500
From: email@hidden
Subject: Looking for a team

I just moved to the Aurora/Naperville, Illinois area and am looking for a
senior team to play on (I play defense usually).  Any teams out there?
Please respond to my email address directly.
Shari

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:56:30 -0400
From: Joanne Rosati 
Subject: Re: Febreeze

>Subject: Febreze Warning
>Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 3:11 PM
>
>"Febreze, a new product that is used to get odors out of fabrics, has
>been causing deaths and illness in dogs and birds.  There have been
>multiple instances reported in the past few weeks of dogs and birds
>dying after Febreze was used anywhere near them.  Some dogs have only
>gotten very ill, but some have died.  Several birds have died as well.
>
>Febreze contains zinc chloride, which is the culprit.  If you have
>recently sprayed your dog's bed
>with this product, please wash it until you get all of the Febreze out,
>or get your dog new bedding.  Please pass the word along to your friends
>so we can prevent further deaths. This was a notice from the Veterinary
>Emergency Center in Needham, MA."

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:08:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michele D Ryan 
Subject: "Crashing the Net"

> I just finished reading Mary Turco's new book "Crashing The Net.  The U.S. 
> Women's Olympic Ice Hockey Team and the Road to Gold".  It was great and I 
> recommend it to any hockey or women's sports fan, player or coach.  It gives 

I'm in the middle of reading the book right now, and I'd also recommend 
it.  Although the writing gets a bit too flowery at times (at least from 
my perspective), I'm enjoying the story, and I want to go back and watch 
my tape of the game!

> edge" they needed to defeat an equally talented team.  The book is available 
> from amazon.com.

As a fervent supporter of independent bookstores, I have to add that you 
can also find it or order it from your local independent bookstore.  I 
actually found the book in a display of new non-fiction at one of the 
bookshops in my town, and I might not have seen it any other way!

- --Michele Ryan

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:40:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: bill driscoll 
Subject: Ontario Privincals

Can anyone help me with:
- - schedule for Ontario privincals (posted anywhere?)
- - location of Toronto area rinks (again, posted anywhere?)
	specifically: Iceland, Brampton rinks being used for Provincals and
Meadowvale

Thanks,

Bill Driscoll
Director of Hockey
North American Hockey Academy
POB 1197
Stowe VT 05672
802-253-7061
http://www.driscollcom.com
email@hidden

A High Performance Women's Hockey Program

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:20:38 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: [2] Febreeze

heya gang -

 Before we let this  Febreeze thing get outta control - does anybody actually 
have documented PROOF of this?  Or is this going to turn out to be the hockey 
world's equivelanet of Mikey dying from eating pop rocks, AOL getting rid of 
IM's, and a guy waking up in a bathtub full of ice with his kidneys missing?

Jill

"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:32:11 -0400
From: "Rebecca Hall" 
Subject: Fw: Febreze... the P&G response

I asked a friend who works for P&G if she could look into the Febreze
matter. She passed my email on to the appropriate people. Below is the
official company line I received...

Becky #11 (teammate of Lisa Addario on the Ravens!)

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From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Febreze
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 4:09 PM

With all the rumors on the Internet we understand your concern and
appreciate the opportunity to discuss this with you.  We realize all the
rumors on the Internet have made people question the safety of Febreze.
These are unfounded rumors.  Febreze is safe for use around pets, including
cats and dogs.  We believe Febreze is safe for use on fabrics in homes with
birds, also, based on the ingredients and our research data.  Before
Febreze was broadly available, it was used in over 15,000 homes with pets,
more than 1,000 of these were bird owners.  Not a single one reported any
problems.

Leading authorities on veterinary care, such as The National Animal Poison
Control Center of the American Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals
(ASPCA) and The Texas Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory agree that Febreze
is not a concern..

Dr. Steve Hansen, director of the ASPCA poison control center and a
board-certified veterinary toxicologist, stated, "There have been no cases
of animals dying from this product .  We here at the center feel very
strongly that there is nothing in this product that would kill animals or
make them sick.  We have thoroughly investigated it."

If you have any further questions about Febreze, you may want to visit the
ASPCA website at http://www.napcc.aspca.org or you can call them at
1-800-345-4735.  We also have additional information on our website at
http://www.febreze.com/pet.html

We hope youâll share this information and our reassurances with your
friends.

Barb
USA Febreze Team

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:06:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: bill driscoll 
Subject: NY State Lake Placid Tryouts

Hello all-
Does anyone have information or on-line resource for the schedules/rosters
for the Alexandria Bay tryouts for the Lake Placid Camp?
Thanks in advance,

Bill Driscoll
Director of Hockey
North American Hockey Academy
POB 1197
Stowe VT 05672
802-253-7061
http://www.driscollcom.com
email@hidden

A High Performance Women's Hockey Program

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