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Women-in-Hockey Digest Saturday, January 17 1998 Volume 01 : Number 102
In this issue:
Re: Women in the NHL
First Period Score Canada/USA
Second Period
Canada Wins!
Final Score
Re: Women in the NHL
Re: Women in the NHL
The play of Hayley Wickenheiser
Re: Women in the NHL
women referees
Re: The play of Hayley Wickenheiser
March Tournament
Re: The play of Hayley Wickenheiser
Re: Women in the NHL
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 20:54:07 EST
From: RWingsFoxx
Subject: Re: Women in the NHL
I'm pretty sure there has been a woman in the NHL...a goalie if im correct.
She was drafted by Tampa Bay and played for the Adirondack Red Wings.
I'm not sure how many games she played but i know she did...She was on some
kiddy sports show once.
Erin Whitten
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BIOGRAPHY
Birthdate : October 26, 1971
Hometown : Glen Falls, New York
Height : 5'5"
Weight : 136 lbs
96-97 Team : Flint Generals
Catches : Left
Uniform # : 34
ðFirst woman to play in a pro hockey game (Adirondack Red Wings vs. Cornwall
aces)
ðFirst woman to win a pro hockey game (Toledo Storm vs. Dayton), October 30,
1993
ðFirst woman to play a complete regulation pro hockey game 1993
Jess
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 20:40:57 -0800
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
Subject: First Period Score Canada/USA
Score after first period for you Americans without TSN:
0-0.
Tueting in goal for USA, stopped 9 shots, Reddon for Canada, stopped 7.
Actually, should say that Tueting stopped 8, because the ref blew the puck
dead far too fast, depriving Fiona Smith of a goal for Canada.
Fairly even first period, USA started better, Canada came on towards the
end.
More after the second.
Phil, Victoria, BC
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:38:29 -0800
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
Subject: Second Period
Score after 2:
1-1
Nystrom opened the scoring for Canada at 10:26, Schmidgall equalized for the
USA at 18:06. Canada with a slight upper hand, but it's too close to call
right now. Enjoyable game before a large crowd at GM Place in Vancouver. No
shots on goal announced after the second, will update at the end.
Phil
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 01:37:14 -0400
From: Aaron Albert
Subject: Canada Wins!
Alright! Great game by both teams but Canada came out on top. Karen Nystrom
scored both goals for Canada as we beat the U.S. by a score of 2-1. Lesley
Reddon, Canada's goalie, played exceptionally well and made some
spectacular saves. This game really was a treat to watch. Can't wait until
Nagano!
- -Aaron
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:43:55 -0800
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
Subject: Final Score
Final score, Canada vs. USA, before almost 15,000 fans at GM Place in
Vancouver:
Canada 2, USA 1
Karen Nystrom scores her second goal of the game with just over 5 minutes to
play to give Canada the win. Canada had the edge in shots and in overall
play/intensity, but not by very much.
Wonderful to see all the young women in the audience, very excited by the
first visit of women's teams of this calibre since the Pacific Rim
tournament in 1996. The game got the big-league treatment on national
television. PLUS, three separate on-air views of the Victoria Stingers!
Debbie was very happy about that. OK, I was too...
Phil, Victoria, BC
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 03:43:07 EST
From: RG Traynor
Subject: Re: Women in the NHL
Um ... Erin Whitten was never a Tampa Bay draftee (neither was Manon Rheaume,
as to that), and the AHL game - which my wife attended - in which she played
for her hometown Adirondack team was an exhibition game. The only woman who
can be said to have played in an NHL game is Rheaume, who played in two
exhibitions, one against St. Louis, one against Boston.
A major bar against female referees, IMHO, is that many referees start out AS
linesmen, and if we're conceding that few leagues are going to go out of their
way to consider women as linesmen, that'll be a problem.
- - Bevan
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:07:19 EST
From: Kittencat3
Subject: Re: Women in the NHL
For the dozenth time, Erin Whitten was NOT the first woman to play in a pro
hockey game!!!!! That honor probably belongs to Manon Rheaume, who played in
NHL exhibition in 1992, played a few minutes in an IHL Atlanta Knights game in
December 1992, and was the first woman to start a pro hockey game when she
played for Atlanta in April of 1993. This is almost six months before Erin
Whitten appeared in exhibition in Glens Falls, New York, and closer to eight
months before Whitten actually played a complete game for Toledo.
Whitten is the first female goalie to *win* a pro game (she beat Rheaume by
about a week; Whitten was with Toledo and Rheaume was with Nashville in the
ECHL), and she's the first AMERICAN woman to play professionally, but Manon
Rheaume was the first to play and receive any kind of national attention.
Now - there is some evidence to suggest that there was at least a female
practice goalie in a semi-pro league in Michigan in the early to mid 70's.
Her name was Karen Koch, she played for the Marquette Iron Rangers, and I've
seen newspaper clippings indicating that she at least was a practice goalie.
Now, this is the very low minors, and I haven't seen an actual box score
proving that she *played*, but she was definitely on the opening night roster
as a reserve. There's a big difference between being a practice goalie and
being a starter, but it's possible that Koch scooped both Rheaume AND Whitten.
Lisa Evans
Easthampton, MA
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:52:09 -0400
From: Aaron Albert
Subject: The play of Hayley Wickenheiser
While I was watching the game last night I paid a great deal attention to
the ability of players of both teams. Most of the women are very good
hockey players and have similar abilities but the one girl who stood out
was Hayley Wickenheiser. Although the scoresheet didn't indicate this, I
think she is a level above everyone on that ice, and I'm loyal to Cassie ;)
But when Hayley gets the puck you just kinda get this feeling that
something is going to happen. She is big, strong, fast and VERY intense.
They showed a few shots of her face during the game and she really has a
look of determination. Her play reminds me a little of Jaromir Jagr of the
Pittsburgh Penguins. She's just so exciting to watch. She was the one who
scored the winning goal in the 1997 World Championships and I'll bet she
does some serious damage in Nagano. So look out for #22! ;)
- -Aaron
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:45:52 -0800
From: Anne Paulson
Subject: Re: Women in the NHL
I wondered whether women could be refs in the NHL and Bevan
replied:
> A major bar against female referees, IMHO, is that many referees start out AS
> linesmen, and if we're conceding that few leagues are going to go out of
their
> way to consider women as linesmen, that'll be a problem.
I didn't know that. I know that some of you listers are refs. Would
it be hard for a woman to be a linesman-- because of the fights, especially--
or do you think that women could use other means than brute strength
to deal with fights?
Are there women refs or linesmen in professional or major junior
hockey?
- -- Anne Paulson
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:01:49 -0800
From: Bec Kemp
Subject: women referees
I forwarded the topic of women referees to my ref listserver and got this
response which I thought was worth posting:
>Hi Bec,
>I agree with much of your post, and think that women can ref in the NHL. I
>think respect is important for any referee, and it has to be earned on the
>ice. As far as strength is concerned, I was a linesman while a sophomore
>in high school and broke up many a fight while doing men's league games.
>Strenght is important, but again, so is technique and respect.
>
>I look forward to hearing others responses.
>
>Roger Payne
>email@hidden
Bec Kemp
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wherever you go, there you are!
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:02:44 +0000
From: "TeePee Communications"
Subject: Re: The play of Hayley Wickenheiser
On 17 Jan 98 at 13:52, Aaron Albert wrote:
> While I was watching the game last night I paid a great deal attention to
> the ability of players of both teams. Most of the women are very good
> hockey players and have similar abilities but the one girl who stood out
> was Hayley Wickenheiser. Although the scoresheet didn't indicate this, I
> think she is a level above everyone on that ice, and I'm loyal to Cassie ;)
> But when Hayley gets the puck you just kinda get this feeling that
> something is going to happen. She is big, strong, fast and VERY intense.
> They showed a few shots of her face during the game and she really has a
> look of determination. Her play reminds me a little of Jaromir Jagr of the
> Pittsburgh Penguins. She's just so exciting to watch. She was the one who
> scored the winning goal in the 1997 World Championships and I'll bet she
> does some serious damage in Nagano. So look out for #22! ;)
Nancy Drolet scored the winning goal at the '97 Worlds.
I think I would be impressed more with Hayley if she would learn how
to pass the puck, but she is very good.
Tim
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:00:59 EST
From: Shaker Ice
Subject: March Tournament
We are looking for a March/ early April tournament at the PeeWee/Bantam
level.If you have a suggestion, please respond with tournament date and
contact phone number. Bill Webb, Ohio Flames at ShakerIce @aol.com
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 19:15:07 -0400
From: Aaron Albert
Subject: Re: The play of Hayley Wickenheiser
>On 17 Jan 98 at 13:52, Aaron Albert wrote:
>
>> While I was watching the game last night I paid a great deal attention to
>> the ability of players of both teams. Most of the women are very good
>> hockey players and have similar abilities but the one girl who stood out
>> was Hayley Wickenheiser. Although the scoresheet didn't indicate this, I
>> think she is a level above everyone on that ice, and I'm loyal to Cassie ;)
>> But when Hayley gets the puck you just kinda get this feeling that
>> something is going to happen. She is big, strong, fast and VERY intense.
>> They showed a few shots of her face during the game and she really has a
>> look of determination. Her play reminds me a little of Jaromir Jagr of the
>> Pittsburgh Penguins. She's just so exciting to watch. She was the one who
>> scored the winning goal in the 1997 World Championships and I'll bet she
>> does some serious damage in Nagano. So look out for #22! ;)
>
>
>Nancy Drolet scored the winning goal at the '97 Worlds.
Oops, my mistake, it was Drolet who scored that goal. I guess I always
think of Wickenheiser on that play rushing the puck from the Canadian zone
and that's why I think it's her goal sometimes. But you're right Tim, it
was Drolet's goal.
>I think I would be impressed more with Hayley if she would learn how
>to pass the puck, but she is very good.
Yes, you're right about that too. Hayley would be a better all-around
player if she would pass more. I'm sure her passing skills will develop as
she gets older. She still has alot to learn at the age of nineteen and can
only get better.
- -Aaron
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:20:09 EST
From: RG Traynor
Subject: Re: Women in the NHL
<< Are there women refs or linesmen in professional or major junior hockey? >>
Heather McDaniel was hired by the Central League to work in an officiating
training camp, but I hadn't heard that she'd actually worked a game. To my
knowledge, no other woman is under contract as an official to a pro league,
and if one was, THN would no doubt mention it ...
- - Bevan
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