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Women-in-Hockey Digest Thursday, February 26 1998 Volume 01 : Number 162
In this issue:
You've made it when...
Re: Mouthguards/Face Shields
Re: Rink air quality, etc.
Re: Rink air quality, etc.
Re: Rink air quality, etc.
Coach Miller and Coach Smith
Re: Rink air quality, etc.
Re: Mouthguards
Re: Mouthguards/Face Shields
pain and soreness
Re: Rink air quality, etc.
Re: Knee Injury
Re: play-by-play
Re: Mouthguards/Face Shields
Re: Head protection
Re: Rink air quality, etc.
Re: Rink air quality, etc.
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 98 11:03:00 -0800
From: "HARRIS, zharris"
Subject: You've made it when...
Saw Cammi Granato at the Grammies!! (they did a head and shoulder shot of
her in her seat... all decked out - as well as Lapinski, who actually
presented an award).
Also, looks like Lifetime is doing a documentary on the US team later in
March (the 17th rings a bell but I am not sure).
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:26:10 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Mouthguards/Face Shields
In a message dated 98-02-26 03:13:12 EST, email@hidden writes:
<<
Does anyone know if you can get colored mouthguards with straps from
dentists? I have spoken to my dentist about getting a custom mouthguard,
since I find the boil and bite ones very uncomfortable and she has told me
that they only come in clear and do not have straps. If someone has
contrary information and can send me contact information for your dentist,
I would be able to see if my dentist can use that to get what I need.
Wendy
FLASH Hockey - #21
>>
SHOCK DOCTOR is a boil'n bite. about $ 25 bucks. It is colored, and has a
strap. It is pretty comfortable - but my teammathes dooo noth theem to be abl
to unnerthand what iyam thayin.
Jill
# 77 Brooklyn Blades
"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:34:53 -0500
From: Richard Johnston
Subject: Re: Rink air quality, etc.
Rink Air Quality has been studied and is been attributed to two factors:
One: the cold air and lack of fresh air being introduced by "sealed" rinks
causes the air to have a higher carbon dioxide percentage and an increase
in other pollutants (similar to sick building syndrome).
Two: (the more severe) is pollution caused by diesel & propane driven
zambonis. The gases settle to the ice because of the cold and the gases
is heavier than oxygen. The poison is carbon monoxide gas.
In the New York Area we had a rink sued because a player collapsed
due to carbon-monoxide poisoning. The player had asthma and a
seizure was triggered by the lack of oxygen.
Rich Johnston
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:20:58 -0400
From: Debbie Minden
Subject: Re: Rink air quality, etc.
My oldest daughter figure skated for years. She had a great two pack a day
cough and had trouble breathing. Finally, it was diagnosed as
cold-triggered asthma, and she had to take puffers to control her
breathing. Once she stopped skating, all her symptoms disappeared. After
being off the ice for 2 years, she began to play hockey. Well, surprise,
the cough is back!
One of our local rinks upgraded itself a couple of years ago, doing the
whole thing with the roof and hermetically sealed system. For the first
few months, until they got the ventillation system right, the carbon
monoxide alarms went off all the time.
All the joys of airplain air, without the fun of going someplace.
Debbie
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 05:13:45 -0500
From: Shannon Perkins
Subject: Re: Rink air quality, etc.
>On another note, does anyone else get so excited about playing hockey that
>they turn into a non-stop, play-by-play babbler during the game, causing
>veteran male players to shoot you odd glances? Just wondering.
I do tend to get really excited a hyper a day before a really big game.
However, before every game I do get another reaction...my nerves get my
stomach so much in knots, I throw-up before just about every game. My teams
just have to get used to it, and know they really have to worry when I
don't! I remember pouring Mylanta into my waterbottle before really big games!
Peace,
Shannon Perkins #29
email@hidden
"If at first you don't succeed, redefine success."
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 15:47:11 -0600
From: "June Wheeler"
Subject: Coach Miller and Coach Smith
(Sorry this posting is so late after the Olympics, but I had some technical
problems with the list...)
Just for the record, I heard this morning on the radio (in St. Paul, MN) the
Shannon Miller was a FINALIST for the Minnesota-Duluth job, not a final
choice.
If this is old news I stand corrected.
And my two cents as an older player who competes at the Senior A national
level - Ben Smith was a great choice as a coach. He was the men's assistant
coach at Yale when I played varsity women's ice hockey, and I always felt he
had more respect for what we were trying to build (this is in 1977, mind
you!) than most men. I saw him in Boston at Nationals last April and he
took the time to reminisce with me and compliment me on our 1-0 loss to Team
Southeast (which had 4 or 5 Team USA-level players on it, including Chris
Bailey!). He is a classy guy.
My only wish now is that age was no factor in making the USA squad, only
skills. Sigh.
Congrats to the kid goalies from Team USA!
June #30 (and a lefty to boot!)
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:38:39 -0800
From: Eddie Ragasa
Subject: Re: Rink air quality, etc.
It was not a hockey incident persay, but I remember when I was a little kid
playing soccer and my mom and dad would go on and on about the game to
others and yelling at the plyers to go, go, go...kick that ball. That kind
of stuff. I got so annoyed after a while I told my mom and dad to stop
talking. Of course they didn't.
Eddie
>>On another note, does anyone else get so excited about playing hockey that
>>they turn into a non-stop, play-by-play babbler during the game, causing
>>veteran male players to shoot you odd glances? Just wondering.
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 17:45:35 EST
From: Jen29H
Subject: Re: Mouthguards
Ok, I'm assuming this whole topic thing about helmets and mouthguards being
important was started because of me, Of course I could be wrong. And I really
don't know why. Someone said I said something about skating around without a
helmet, I don't remember saying that on the list or anything, but yea I do
skate around without a helmet on, along with biking without one.(1 because I
never used to have one, 2 because I live in the country and theres not many
cars to worry about, but yea I know I can still hit a rock and go flying) Yea
I know it isn't too smart, and I haven't landed on my head yet, of course I
can't say the same about my legs. I have scars all over my legs, I always wear
knee pads but I still get road rash up the sides of my leg every once in a
while, and the one time I didn't wear them, I of course took a fall to my
knees and got yet another scar. I always wear a helmet when playing hockey,
well except when its just like 1 on 1 or, 1 on 2 or, 2 on 2, small games. And
luckily I haven't got hit yet, well scarred yet anyways. Sure I've take a ball
to the face a couple times, and a stick, but that was my own fault, I leaned
my stick up against my bike and I was trying to pull my water bottle off my
bike, and I hit my stick and it hit me in face. I don't really know why I
don't wear a helmet, I'm used to wearing a hat when I play in the small games.
So I really don't know why, sure in the summer games it probably was to hot,
of course anything higher than 85 degrees is too hot to even play roller
hockey, to me anyways.
I don't wear a face shield or anything either, for one I don't think one
would go on my helmet (its not HECC approved or anything, but it is a good
helmet, I guess, but its kinda like the one Wayne Gretzky wears) and 2 I
really didn't want one. Sure I got hit in the face twice with balls(both times
in practice), and one of the guys on my team got a stick to the face and got a
nasty black eye but when I start indoor roller hockey (if I do) I will
probably get one since you actually need approved equipment, and its a lot
more intense hockey. But I don't have any scars on my face yet, well except
the one, but that wasn't from hockey, it was really stupid actually, I was
swinging around a sled (its one of those sleds that just has a place to sit
and a handle to hold on, they're called Screamers) and I accidently got my
nose with it.
So just so you know I'm not against helmets or face shields or anything, in
fact I talk about players wearing them a lot. Like the refs (at CSU games),
every time the puck even comes their direction they shield their face with
their arms. and I usally say, you know they should wear masks or something if
they're that afraid of the puck. And I'm especially not against knee pads, I
see people blading all the time without them. Without them, well I don't think
I'd have skin on my knee left, or knees at all. Yea I should start wearing a
helmet more often when I play hockey, once I get it adjusted right, I changed
it once to see if it fit better, and it didn't and I haven't gotten it right
since. Its either too tight and hurts my head or is too loose and everytime I
fall it slides halfway off. Well I've got a concert tonight, and my first solo
so I should go practice.
Jennie
to be #29 (someday)
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:44:41 -0600
From: "Erin and Rich Malinowski"
Subject: Re: Mouthguards/Face Shields
> Explain to me the logic in which senior women must wear a full face
shield,
> but senior men don't.
Actually, Canada requires women to follow different equipment rules from the
men. But in the USA, women (age 18 and older) are not required to wear face
shields. (On our team 18 American players wear full face shields and our
only Canadian player wears a half-shield!)
Erin
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 17:56:11 EST
From: Jen29H
Subject: pain and soreness
This has been asked before, or variations of it. But I'll ask anyway. Since
roller hockey is starting in a month, I've been trying to get in shape, get my
arms and legs stronger. By doing push-ups, curlups, some other leg things. And
well my entire left leg hurts, mainly my foot, my right shoulder, and neck
also hurt. I do strech before doing anything. I've backed off and quit for
about 4 days figuring I'd probably make it worse. And it hasn't gotten any
better. I wore my hiking boots today since they have more support than my
sneakers. And it still bothers me, not as much, but it still hurts a lot. My
neck and right shoulder hurt a lot too, mainly after I wake up in the morning,
and at night. So should I be concerned about it, or is it normal when getting
back into shape?
Next time for sure, I'm going to stay in shape and not do this whole get back
into shape for roller hockey season thing.
Jennie
to be #29, someday
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 18:30:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Susan Gottfried
Subject: Re: Rink air quality, etc.
Oh, yeah. Been here!
>
> On another note, does anyone else get so excited about playing hockey that
> they turn into a non-stop, play-by-play babbler during the game, causing
> veteran male players to shoot you odd glances? Just wondering.
I talk when I'm on the ice. I love to talk to the folks on my line and
when I'm playing with good friends, we all benefit from it. Not
play-by-play per se, but directions. "get it; one on you; go,go,go!" that
sort of stuff.
My last game in Bowling Green (literally; the moving van came 2 days
later), the refs aksed why I was so uncharacteristically quiet. But I was
so worn out from packing, I didn't have the energy to talk.
Until, that is, the last face-off of the game. We're in our offenseive
zone and all I could chant was, "Play for the tie, guys. Play for the tie."
Didn't get it. Oh, well. I would have missed the championship game
anyway. :)
Anyone else talk like me and Hester?
Susan
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 98 19:23:07 PST
From: "oakwood farm"
Subject: Re: Knee Injury
- -Last fall I got injured, a minor tear in the ACL plus some cartilage damage. I have
since recovered and am playing hockey again. Before the injury I was playing
defense, now I play forward. I have been doing well skating offense, however I
would like to go back to defense again, however I feel uncomfortable skating
backwards for long periods of time. I am having problems getting the quick start
going backwards. Does anyone know of any exercises on or off the ice which I
could do to help improve my coordination and regain my confidence in my knee?
Kathy
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 18:54:22 -0600
From: widget
Subject: Re: play-by-play
Hester,
> On another note, does anyone else get so excited about playing hockey that
> they turn into a non-stop, play-by-play babbler during the game, causing
> veteran male players to shoot you odd glances? Just wondering.
actually, that would be my husband. :-)
he started playing only recently and this season joined my men's team. i've
never played with someone who did this before. it drives me crazy, but my
teammates don't seem to mind. it's good to know that there are other people
out there who do this - at least now i know that he has company.
on one hand, i think it is nice that someone is enjoying themselves so much.
on the other - make sure what you are yelling makes sense. i thought we were
going to have to gag my husband one night becasue he kept yelling, *no-ice* or
*icing* at exactly the opposite calls! :-)
Lea
- --
*********
"Sometimes you have to look reality in the eye
and deny it." --- Garrison Keillor
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Date: 26 Feb 1998 12:43:23 -0500
From: Jan de Regt
Subject: Re: Mouthguards/Face Shields
Although I wear full face protection, I know that any senior woman can
write to USA Hockey for a waiver, and play with a half shield. She
has to have this waiver with her at all times in her bag in case the
ref asks to see it.
I truly believe that senior men have the same requirement. If you see
men playing with modified face masks or none at all, it's either not a
USA Hockey sanctioned event or they are just breaking the rules, which
of course nullifies their USA Hockey insurance and puts themselves at
risk...
A man I played with last year played without a face shield of any
sort. At a game which I missed, something knocked his teeth loose,
and when I saw him next, he was saying how he had gone to the dentist,
who had wired his teeth to make sure they tightned back up in the
right place, but that everything should be fine in a while. Then he
told the guys that when he left to play that night, his wife had
handed him a face shield, and insisted he wear it. Why did this grown
person need someone else to make him do the sensible thing, especially
after an experience like getting his teeth knocked loose???! Go
figure.
Jan.
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 22:32:33 EST
From: Shelly8122
Subject: Re: Head protection
Great post Terry! I agree 100% with your comments. I have also seen the
devastation of head injuries. Even the most innocent looking bicycle
accident, low speed automobile crash, or even a "simple" fall down stairs can
cause unbelievable head injuries. And then some people play ice hockey on an
unforgiving surface, with a hard rubber device that is shot at upwards of 60,
80, 95 MPH, crashing themselves into each other and wooden boards. It makes
no sense to not protect one of the most important organs of the body. You
don't function very well when your melon has been squashed.
I know there are people out there right now saying "I've been playing for ump-
teen years now, I never have worn a helmet and I've never had a concussion."
Well guess what; your time will run out eventually. Protect Your Head! You
can't play if you don't even remember what ice hockey is.
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 23:00:43 EST
From: LuvCLemx22
Subject: Re: Rink air quality, etc.
In a message dated 98-02-26 17:30:11 EST, email@hidden writes:
<< I do tend to get really excited a hyper a day before a really big game.
However, before every game I do get another reaction...my nerves get my
stomach so much in knots, I throw-up before just about every game. My teams
just have to get used to it, and know they really have to worry when I
don't! I remember pouring Mylanta into my waterbottle before really big
games!
>>
That reminds me of a former male teammate of mine, who not only felt the urge
to throwup before playoff games, he absolutely NEEDED to do it ON THE BENCH,
so he could see it! The things we will put up with for hockey! ( :
Jackie - #22 - She Shooooooooots, She Scoooooooores!!!!!!!
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 23:12:38 EST
From: LuvCLemx22
Subject: Re: Rink air quality, etc.
In a message dated 98-02-26 19:07:12 EST, email@hidden writes:
<< Anyone else talk like me and Hester? >>
I talk, but more to opponents than to teammates. I've always found it amusing
how quick players can be taken off their game by just a little yapping.
Actually, the males I play against get ruffled easier than females. A
personal favorite is to yell "Your S#%T ain't working tonight" as I'm trying
to get past a defencemen, funny how irritated some players can be with that.
In the leagues that I'm in, I know everybody and if I have to use something
personal, I'll do it. The cool thing is that members of the opposing team
actually supply me with this information from time to time (it's mostly in
good clean fun). I have a Arch Nemisis who plays for our biggest rival and he
is so easily irritated by me that I go out of my way to find something new on
him. The last thing I found was that his car was messed up (he's in his mid
20's) and his Mom was having to cart him all over and she dropped him off at
the rink (this information supplied by his own teammates) , so of course, in
the face off circle I had alot of fun irritating him about having to ride with
"Mommy". Poor guy just hates the heck out of me (why , I don't know) but it
makes the game interesting.
Jackie
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