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Women-in-Hockey Digest Sunday, February 22 1998 Volume 01 : Number 156
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Re: After hockey headache
Gold Medal Effects?
rehydrate
Re: After Hockey Headache
I hate people like this
CHECK THIS OUT!!!!
Re: After Hockey Headache
Re: I hate people like this
Re: rehydrate
Re: After Hockey Headache
Women's Pro League
RinkSport Hockey Camps
CBS re-broadcast of Gold Medal game
Women's Hockey Viewpoint
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 18:08:04 -0800
From: Anne Paulson
Subject: Re: After hockey headache
Chuq says:
> Well, my background on this is cycling, but the research I've seen is
> valid for most sports.
>
> Cycling
> studies I've seen show pretty clearly that anything under 90 minutes,
> sports drinks don't do much of anything. Water is just as good.
My background is in cycling and endurance sports, and I agree with
Chuq. Drink water during the game. If you must drink a sports
drink, dilute it 50/50 with water.
> Getting back to the urination thing (I know, I know. no jokes, okay?),
> you really want to make sure you're hydrated. The best way to verify
> this is to see how much is leaving the system again. You want to drink
> enough that you urinate on a regular basis -- my preference is that the
> bladder fills (at least) after each meal. You're flushing waste
> products out of the system, so you want to encourage this (and
> discourage kidney and bladder stones, which form when the waste
> products get too concentrated and crystalize in there...).
One easy way to know if you're dehydrated is to check the color of
your urine. It should be very light-colored. If it's dark yellow and
looks concentrated, it is, and you are dehydrated. Drink water right
away, and next time drink more before you get dehydrated.
For athletes, thirst is not a good indicator of dehydration. By the
time you feel thirsty, you have already lost too much fluid, and this
will affect your athletic performance. Drink before you get thirsty.
Take a sip after every shift.
- -- Anne Paulson
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:27:08 -0600
From: email@hidden
Subject: Gold Medal Effects?
Last night as I and a couple of my team members were walking to our locker
room to get changed for practice, we were followed by a couple of really
cute kids asking us if we played hockey, an a women's team, etc. They also
wanted to make sure our lcoker room was clean enough and when we said yes,
still wanted to sweep it out. It was really incredible. It seems as just
about overnight, we have become idols.
Wendy
FLASH Hockey - #21
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 22:02:08 -0600
From: "Daun DeFrance"
Subject: rehydrate
Gang,
For what it's worth, my GP recently told me that many sport drinks are too
concentrated for most athletes. He recommends splitting a bottle, one part
sport drink, one part water. He believes that some drinks can even cause
you to be more dehydrated. So it's good to load up on the carbos, but do
it in smaller doses.
Best of luck,
Daun
"Deviations from the truths of the blood begets neurotic restlessness...
Restlessness begets meaninglessness, and the lack of meaning in life
is a soul-sickness whose full extent and full import our age has not yet
begun to comprehend."
- Michael Crichton, Travels
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 22:11:05 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: After Hockey Headache
Just some more info for the "hockey headache" question.
Most of the information given has been correct. A headache can be a sign of
dehydration. It can also signal many other more severe medical conditions.
If you are new to exercise, please consult your physician. You may have
underlying medical conditions that you aren't aware of.
Assuming you are in good shape, try drinking more water as suggested. It is
NOT necessary to invest in those "sport drinks". If you eat a balanced diet,
you will be getting all the nutrients you need for exercise. You don't need
to pay extra for what amounts to sugar water. Many of the extra "nutrients"
in those drinks are passed through the system so quickly that they are of no
benefit anyway. It's like taking too many vitamins, it's just a waste because
they are excreted. And don't be fooled by the debate over sucrose vs.
fructose vs. sugar vs. high fructose corn syrup. They are all sugars, it's
just a matter of chemical structural differences. When the sugars are
digested, they are converted to glucose and stored in the liver as glycogen.
When the body needs energy, the glycogen is released. In other words, they go
in with different name tags, but all come out the same.
A simple test to determine (roughly) if you are drinking enough is to look at
your urine. It should be clear or a light yellow color. If it is dark, drink
more. And don't wait until you're thirsty. By that time, you are already in
the early stages of dehydration.
Hope this helps.
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 22:56:48 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: I hate people like this
I have A Cammi Granato ~~~ http://come.to/cammi
i got this e-mail
From: email@hidden
Subject: womens hockey
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what a joke...you dont even wear pads....wheres the checking....whats the
point if you want to play hockey go ahead and play field hockey....you women
and your fads ha ha ha
SO I WENT CRAZY AND CHEWD HIM out and got this
email@hidden
Subject: Re: womens hockey
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ha ha you are a "man" did you have the operation yet, mickey
ohh im stuck in the 50's not really more like the 90s where hockey involves
checking and fights son
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i hate people like. I was talking to my friend about womens hockey and he
called me a woman. This people need to wake up and move in to the 90's
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:09:10 -0700
From: Eddie Ragasa
Subject: CHECK THIS OUT!!!!
I was browsing the web and found this...hope you enjoy...
Dave Letterman
Wednesday, Feb. 25
Actress Susan Sarandon, singer Aretha Franklin, U.S. Olympic women's
hockey team goalkeeper Sarah Teuting, singer Aretha Franklin
Eddie
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:47:36 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: After Hockey Headache
At 7:11 PM -0800 2/22/98, email@hidden wrote:
> Many of the extra "nutrients"
> in those drinks are passed through the system so quickly that they are of no
> benefit anyway.
Can you point me to some published literature on this? It's not
something I've seen a study on, and I'd like to. I tend to disagree
with this statement, but if you've got research indicating it's
correct, I'd love to see it -- so hard to stay up to date as fast as
nutrition research is going these days.
> And don't be fooled by the debate over sucrose vs.
> fructose vs. sugar vs. high fructose corn syrup. They are all sugars, it's
> just a matter of chemical structural differences. When the sugars are
> digested, they are converted to glucose and stored in the liver as glycogen.
Um, MY POINT EXACTLY. The key issue you seem to be missing is that not
all of them are digested as easily or as quickly. And there's a growing
body of research that seems to indicate that high yield corn syrups as
a cause of the growing problems of insulin insensitivity (hence, I
generally recommend folks try to avoid it, easier said than done in the
states).
> When the body needs energy, the glycogen is released. In other
>words, they go
> in with different name tags, but all come out the same.
But the processes to turn it into glycogen aren't the same, and the
side effects aren't. While you're exercising, you want the stuff that's
most easily and quickly converted into glycogen.
- --
Chuq Von Rospach (Hockey fan? )
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 00:21:29 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: I hate people like this
yea, I know what ya mean, I get that crap all the time on AOL. Today I went
into a hockey chatroom and said the US women are going to be on the wheaties
box. And got the responses "who care" "womens hockey sucks" and some other
ones. And even the guys at school that like hockey, they don't care about the
women. Before the mens hockey started they said stuff about how they couldn't
wait for the "mens" hockey to start. since the womens hockey was boring, or
something. I've also gotten the women can't play speech, and how its boring,
just like womens basketball. The first full basketball game I watched was a
WNBA game, its the only basketball I can stand to watch. So when I get the
trash about womens hockey, I used to argue, but now I just say, "yea whatever"
and ignore them. Why bother stooping to their level. Its pretty much a waste
of time, they have their opinions, and I can't change them. Somebody could try
all they wanted to get me to like football, and I never will like it. But they
should give it a chance. They can argue all they want and say we can't play,
say its not "real" hockey and say its slow or boring, but to me, its more
exciting than the NHL, more exciting than the mens college games I've seen,
more exciting than the IHL or AHL games RHI too and everything else. It
doesn't stop for fighting and all that other junk, the things that are keeping
the NHL's veteran players, playing their best. Just pure hockey, with a lot of
passion. But we're going to play, and watch, no matter who says its a mans
game, or that our game is boring and slow. And as the USA womens hockey slogan
states "Don't tell us what we can't do"
Jennie
to be #29 (someday)
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 21:18:53 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: rehydrate
> For what it's worth, my GP recently told me that many sport drinks are too
> concentrated for most athletes. He recommends splitting a bottle, one part
> sport drink, one part water.
I'd like to see his research on this. My guess would be it's a bit out of date.
Well... I did the silly thing, and went and looked it up. Gatorade is a
6% solution, primarily sucrose and fructose, not corn syrup. I'd check
up powerade, but the Coke site is sick, but it's also in the 6-7% range.
Now, according to Dr. Edmund Burke (head medico for the US Olympic
cyclists), drinks *under* 6% don't supply enough carbo to be considered
anything but fluid replacement (in other words, might as well drink
water). So your GP's advice to dilute turns it into flavored water.
Right now, I'm working from his book "Serious Cycling", published in
1995. For the terminally curious, I'm on page 150....
His general recommendation is for a drink of between 8-10%, using
sucrose or glucose -- avoiding drinks that are primarily fructose,
because of slower uptake rates and the higher chance of digestive
discomforts. He suggests about 14 ounces of 10% or less drink just
before a race, and then supplementing that with 3-4 ounces every ten
minutes through the race. This fills the stomach with water and
guarantees that the water will carry the carbo down into the small
intestine for uptake, and you keep the fluid flowing to keep things
moving. One thing you probably do NOT want to do is load up before and
then "run dry", because you'll likely just suck the water out of the
system and leave the sugars behind to cause distress.
Now, this is specific to bike racing, but the theory is similar to
hockey. Cycling's more of a constant exercise, but the hydration
aspects are going to be pretty similar. Load up with a bottle of
something before you go, and drink after every shift or two -- one or
two swallows. (and as he says, "remember, drink only a few minutes
before the start to ensure that the fluid ends up in the bloodstream
and not the bladder....")
Based on Burke's research, diluting sports drinks is NOT good, unless
you happen to be drinking one that's fairly concentrated. Most of the
commercial ones aren't (you'd need to see about 90 calories per 8
ounces to get close to the 10% limit). You might as well drink water.
Water or drinks? Hey, water's cheap. But let your body dictate -- most
of the people on this list are practicing or playing for 90 minutes or
2 hours. Longest might be three. Anything under 90 minutes, sports
drinks just don't have much effect. Beyond that -- listen to your body.
If you're really tired or lifeless late in a game/practice, or
afterward, try using a sports drink to see if it keeps the energy
levels up late. It'd be the third period and after the game where you'd
likely see the difference a sports drink would make.
And if you try one, look for sucrose and glucose on the label. If it's
fructose, it should be a minor ingredient.
Hmm. Off to see if I can find any more recent info on this online.
- --
Chuq Von Rospach (Hockey fan? )
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:42:48 -0800
From: "A,Chernin"
Subject: Re: After Hockey Headache
> At 7:11 PM -0800 2/22/98, email@hidden wrote:
>
> > And don't be fooled by the debate over sucrose vs.
> > fructose vs. sugar vs. high fructose corn syrup. They are all sugars,
it's
> > just a matter of chemical structural differences. When the sugars are
> > digested, they are converted to glucose and stored in the liver as
glycogen.
What I have done for many years is I take a product called Floradix iron
tonic. The company that makes them has these tiny little sample 1 dose
bottles which you can get at the health food store. I bring in on the
bench with me. It is made entirely from fruit source and has a small
amount of naturally occuring B Vitamins and iron. I have experimented with
many different things over the years and this definetly helps me during and
after the game.
It's probably the combination of things. I remember some world class rower
taking this product as well. I have never had much help from a Gatorade
type drink.
Just a thought,
Annette
Women's Ice hockey
http://www.tropicalpenguin.com/hockey.html
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 22:12:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Norling
Subject: Women's Pro League
Can anyone tell me how I can get in touch with the new women's pro
league? Thanks in advance for your help.
Kevin
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Kevin Norling, Sports Director, KRWC Radio
http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/e/v/kevin1963.html
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 01:16:35 -0500
From: Tina JW Danzig
Subject: RinkSport Hockey Camps
I was wondering if anyone had any information on RinkSport's High
Performance Female Hockey Training Prgrams?
My daughter just received their brochure, and we were wondering if anyone
has gone to one of their camps, or known anyone who has. I be interested
in hearing any feedback on them, good and bad.
Thanks for your help.
Tina (Mother of Jena #14)
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 01:42:37 -0400
From: Gary Goldberg MD
Subject: CBS re-broadcast of Gold Medal game
It was really nice this afternoon to watch the CBS re-broadcast of the
Olympic Gold Medal game between Team USA and Canada with Sarah Tueting,
Karyn Bye and Gretchen Ulion in the studio to provide their retrospective
view of the events and their original commentary. There was a lot of
down-home human interest stuff that came out all over the place. These
women were clearly very special Olympic athletes! Plenty of big smiles and
heart-felt emotion in the context of a great, one might dare say 'classic',
sporting conflict. I don't think better exposure for the sport in the USA
(or Canada) could possibly have been planned. The game was closely and
toughly fought. It moved very quickly and there was the feeling that no
matter what the outcome, there was a bigger winner, a greater good that
gained here, exploding into the public eye -- the greater recognition of
the sport and all the sisters, daughters, mothers, and their loved ones,
who connected in the experience of being entertained by the greatness of
the game--not the winning, not the losing, but the playing out of the
action--just being a part of a unique, special, momentous event. Now isn't
that what Olympic competition is really supposed to be about? Not a medal
count, not a win-or-else scenario, not a bunch of millionaires working
their job, but an engagement in human struggle at its very highest and
purest levels. That was the big message that Coach Smith had for the
television audience in his emotional interview at the end of the game with
Darren Pang (and what a great interview it was too!). Coach Smith was not
celebrating his team's win. That would have been much too narrow for such
a man. He was celebrating the supremacy of the game itself, and, sure, he
was proud to be there and to have guided a great group of women through the
process to its culmination. But to have gloated would have terribly
cheapened the victory and undermined the greatness of the opponent with
whom his team really had developed a very special relationship.
In the end, it really is not the winning or the losing that ultimately
counts, but the fact that the players gave everything they had in the
process of making it happen--and by doing so they became a part of a much
bigger whole--a great, great tradition of a magnificent sport. I know that
this game, for me personally, will be the most memorable part of the 1998
Nagano Winter Olympics--by a long shot. And, I am sure, for my wife and
daughters as well.
- --GG
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 00:47:31 -0600
From: "James D. Lorino"
Subject: Women's Hockey Viewpoint
Don't know if anyone else saw this, but I think it is beautifully written
and speaks volumes.
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U.S. Women's Hockey Team Sings Sweet Tune
Posted: Fri February 20, 1998 at 8:46 AM ET
Viewpoint
Leigh Montville, CNN/SI, Sports Illustrated
NAGANO, Japan (CNN/SI) -- They couldn't sing very well, these women, but
that did not matter. They sang their out-of-tune National Anthem and they
were beautiful.
Absolutely beautiful.
Take a picture of what you wanted to show the world about the United
States, the place where we live, and this was as good as any -- the U.S.
women's hockey team, gold medalists, Olympic champions.
They made the little hairs stand up on the back of your neck, these women.
They hugged each other and they cried and they examined their medals with
such looks of profound joy and accomplishment that they made you want to
cry right along with them.
The final score was 3-1 and the opponent was their arch-nemesis, Canada,
the defending world champions, but their victory went much deeper than
numbers and names.
This was a victory over preconceptions, misconceptions, over tunnel vision,
tradition . . .over whatever causes you want to name that have kept women
in the athletic back seat for virtually all of time.
Hockey! This was a final statement of how things have changed.
The girl next door has gone from dolls and tea parties to elbow guards and
slapshots in a generation. All doors are open. All possibilities exist. Two
years ago, in Atlanta, American women charged through the Olympics, winning
gold medals in basketball, softball and soccer. Hockey completed the cycle.
Name your game, kid. The women from the U.S. will kick your butt.
"My brothers and I used to re-create the Miracle on Ice from 1980 in our
basement," captain Cammi Granato said. "I was always Mike Eruzione."
Anyone can be anything.
That is the message.
There may be daily brushfires and skirmishes on assorted fronts in the
perpetual War of the Sexes, but most arguments about sport should be done.
Finished.
Women certainly can play the game -- any game imaginable -- and they live
in an environment, a society, a country, where this is now possible.
These women, these off-key singers from Nagano, were a red-white and-blue
Exhibit A, evidence of that.
Copyright (c) 1998 CNN/SI. A Time Warner Company.
All Rights Reserved.
They made the little hairs stand up on the back of your neck, these women.
They hugged each other and they cried and they examined their medals with
such looks of profound joy and accomplishment that they made you want to
cry right along with them.
The final score was 3-1 and the opponent was their arch-nemesis, Canada,
the defending world champions, but their victory went much deeper than
numbers and names.
This was a victory over preconceptions, misconceptions, over tunnel vision,
tradition . . .over whatever causes you want to name that have kept women
in the athletic back seat for virtually all of time.
Hockey! This was a final statement of how things have changed.
The girl next door has gone from dolls and tea parties to elbow guards and
slapshots in a generation. All doors are open. All possibilities exist. Two
years ago, in Atlanta, American women charged through the Olympics, winning
gold medals in basketball, softball and soccer. Hockey completed the cycle.
Name your game, kid. The women from the U.S. will kick your butt.
"My brothers and I used to re-create the Miracle on Ice from 1980 in our
basement," captain Cammi Granato said. "I was always Mike Eruzione."
Anyone can be anything.
That is the message.
There may be daily brushfires and skirmishes on assorted fronts in the
perpetual War of the Sexes, but most arguments about sport should be done.
Finished.
Women certainly can play the game -- any game imaginable -- and they live
in an environment, a society, a country, where this is now possible.
These women, these off-key singers from Nagano, were a red-white and-blue
Exhibit A, evidence of that.
Copyright (c) 1998 CNN/SI. A Time Warner Company.
All Rights Reserved.
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It's so good, it bears repeating:
Take a picture of what you wanted to show the world about the United
States, the place where we live, and this was as good as any -- the U.S.
women's hockey team, gold medalists, Olympic champions.
I like that!
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James D. Lorino
email@hidden
Brookfield, WI USA
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