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Women-in-Hockey Digest Monday, February 16 1998 Volume 01 : Number 135
In this issue:
US TV Coverage
The Captain
Re: Canada - Loss to USA expected!!
media & the Nats
Re: US TV Coverage
captain
first-time soreness
11 Hours Til The GAME TIME
Re: The Women have been discovered
re: Wickenheiser's place on the team
Re: media & the Nats
Time of Gold Medal Game
Re: 11 Hours Til The GAME TIME
Media exposure
Re: US TV Coverage
Shannon Miller
Re: 11 Hours Til The GAME TIME
Re: Time of Gold Medal Game
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:55:58 -0800
From: "J. Daldry"
Subject: US TV Coverage
>If the U.S. TV isn't covering it, that doesn't mean it's not there. It
>means, as usual, taht U.S. TV is bogus.
For what it's worth:
I am one of those who isn't lucky enough to live near the US/Canada border
and get CBC, and I have to rely on our local cable systems.
I get down on my knees and kiss the TV each and every time CBS shows any
hockey coverage at all.
You don't seem to understand:
Ice hockey is *not* a major US sport for *most* of the nation. The exposure
it is getting here through CBS, no matter how minimal, sketchy, bad, or
whatever, is *more* than it usually gets, and is worth EVERY second!!!
I subscribed to cable TV just for the hockey in the olympics, as I can't
pull CBS off the airwaves.
Get real, folks, and consider yourselves lucky that CBS is showing hockey.
Just look at some of the other olympic sports that we never get to see at
all...
Trashing what we're lucky to have makes no sense.
- -- Jenna
(in California, in case you're wondering)
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:34:21 -0500
From: Cindy Goodman
Subject: The Captain
Please accept my apologies for mistakenly identifying Wickenheiser as the captain. Ofcourse that honor belongs to Stacey Wilson. And a fine job she is doing. Got carried away with my ranting I guess. Try not to hold it against me. Thank you.
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:19:19 -0500
From: Cindy Goodman
Subject: Re: Canada - Loss to USA expected!!
Dave, my condolences to your daughter for being yet another victim of Miller's ego. You are right Danielle is an outstanding goalie and deserved another shot after her injury. Did they believe that she would not be healed in time for the Olympics? But even if they did she proved she was ready if they had bothered to check. I had heard that there were a few raised eyebrows when she was released despite the injury. It would be nice if after all this was over ie. after the Olympics, someone would have the guts to stand up and say what they know. I know a few people who would love to but would be hurt by the repercussions. I'm not sure I totally agree with your assessment of Lesley Reddon's performance in the 7-4 game. Most of the goals were 2nd and 3rd shots. She could have probably been faulted on 2. It was more of a total team defense breakdown. Starting with the defensemen who didn't clear the front of the net. As well as very soft coverage of the trailers. It's clear Canada h!
as it's work cut out for them in the upcoming game with the US. Manon is capable of stealing a game. That's what it will probably take. However, I can't believe that right up to the gold medal game we are still having to hear about more off ice stuff with Miller right in the thick of it again. This woman can't get enough of the spotlight, good or bad. You would never know that this Olympics is for and about the athletes. Can you imagine Marc Crawford complaining to the media that "someone said something really offensive to Joe Sakic and he ran off the ice bawling". If the US player did say what has been reported she said then ofcourse that is a very inappropriate and a nasty thing to say to anyone. Although I have my doubts that's what was really said since now Goyette is saying she isn't sure and White claims she never said anything like that. Time after time Miller has shown that she is in way over her head in her judgement at dealing with players on the ice and media off th!
e ice. Ofcourse the CHA couldn't have known that she would have a brain meltdown in this way because how could they? Where has this woman proven herself before? Oh yeah in Calgary coaching recreational hockey and as an assistant coach with Team Canada in 92. Please. Again my condolences to your daughter. Hey maybe they will have enough soon to start a club. Angela James, Danielle Dube, Margot Page. Yeah yeah, I know they can't all make the team. But you would like to think that the best ones should. That's pretty good company, any of them could play on my team anytime.
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:01:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Bryan Parker
Subject: media & the Nats
> From: email@hidden
> Subject: The Women have been discovered
>
> I am curious if other teams are starting to receive like
> interest from the media?
The CIAU National Women's Hockey Championship final game will be broadcast
LIVE on TSN on Sunday March 1 from Concordia University in Montreal.
(By the way, the Stingers defeated Trois-Rivieres 10-1 in game one of
their best-of-three playoffs yesterday.)
So far, Concordia, Trois-Rivieres, Toronto, Guelph and St. Mary's are
confirmed. I haven't heard which team from the West will be here.
At Concordia, we've had more TV cameras and reporters around than I've
seen in the three years I've been here.
Bryan Parker
Sports Editor, The Concordian
(Concordia's Top Source for Stinger Sports)
email@hidden
"All of his life has he looked away, to the horizon, the future... never his
mind on where he was! what he was doing!"
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:16:49 -0500
From: Cindy Goodman
Subject: Re: US TV Coverage
Consider yourself lucky. We in Canada have been inundated with CURLING. The only thing more boring than that is watching bowling. Hope you get to see some of the gold medal game. It may not be a big ratings catch usually but after the last game they had together they may change their minds. You know how the media loves to sensationalize. Pretty good soap opera material with the women's hockey don't you think?
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:27:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Bryan Parker
Subject: captain
Isn't Stacy Wilson the captain of the Canadian team?
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:26:04 -0500
> From: Cindy Goodman
> Subject: Re: Dube and Team Canada
>
> I recently read an article where Wickenheiser
> is quoted as saying she sometimes is out of control and costs the team
> bad penalties or tries to do it all her self and causes problems for
> their team strategy. What the hell is this brilliant but misguided too
> young for the responsilbity kid doing with the 'C'? She is not able to
> lead the team this way. Ofcourse she is a great player but please she
> is not ready to be the captain of a group of experienced athletes such
> as these women and at the first ever Olympics.
Bryan Parker
Sports Editor, The Concordian
(Concordia's Top Source for Stinger Sports)
email@hidden
"All of his life has he looked away, to the horizon, the future... never his
mind on where he was! what he was doing!"
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:08:05 -0600 (CST)
From: "Wendy R. Painter"
Subject: first-time soreness
I played my first ever hockey scrimmage last night, and of course, I now
hurt all over. Since I haven't played a sport since I played basketball
one season at age 9, I'm not really sure what's "normal" soreness and what
pain I need to pay more attention to.
In particular, I'm wondering if anyone can offer me some advice on:
1. Strengthening my lower back. My back was really complaining last
night, giving me a dull, burning pain that would go away after I sat on
the bench a few minutes. Is this something that will strengthen on its own
over time, or should I be doing some additional exercises to specifically
strengthen the area? I am concerned mostly because I injured my back when
I was 17, and it periodically flares up on me. I'd hate to injure it
further if there are exercises that might help me avoid that. I'm only 25
years old, and I keep thinking that my back should not give me so much
pain already!
2. Before-game stretching. I know I probably should do some specific
warming up. I am searching the web as I write this to see if any sites
have prescribed warm-up routines, but if anyone is willing to share their
personal stretching/warm-up routines with me, I'd still be grateful!
Aside from wanting to take care of my body so that it lasts as long as it
can, I had a BLAST last night! It turns out that the coach for the adult
novice group was not there, so the group just scrimmaged...at first I
thought perhaps I shouldn't get on the ice for it, but then I thought,
"what the hell?" and just played. I made lots of goofy errors, but then
again, I still think I performed respectably for someone who's never even
touched stick to puck before. :) The guys (and one other woman) who were
out there were very encouraging and were obviously there to help one
another improve, not necessarily to count how many goals each "team" made.
So...I'll be out there next week, hopefully armed with some good warm-up
tactics and more aerobic stamina. I can't believe I waited this long to
start playing the game!
Wendy
email@hidden
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:32:48 +0000
From: Kyle Matthews
Subject: 11 Hours Til The GAME TIME
In about 14 Hours ..
we will have the first ever winner of the gold medal for women's olympic
hockey
I have set the alarm clock for 3:30 AM ..
It's a Breakfast at Nagano..
I am one of the lucky .. I live in Mich and get CBC :-)
It's going to be a morning of coffee and cross checking..
Let's have three cheers for all of the ladie's who played in Nagano this
past week.
I wish the Canadian all the best but my heart is with TEAM USA
Go TEAM USA.. bring home the Gold
Kyle Matthews
#99 A2 Flames
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:41:02 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: The Women have been discovered
One of our teams have had the same exp. this past wkend. MSNBC filmed our
girls (Connecticut Polar Bears Squirt 1 Team) on Sat. Said it would show on
Feb. 17 at 9:00PM EST, MSNBC "News with Brian Williams". Hope so. Also, all
papers in Ct. have had some sort of article, even the local television station
has its own "Connecticut Connection" (with the Olympics). 15 min. of fame,
enjoy it. (But i have a feeling it will last a lot longer)
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:00:57 -0700 (MST)
From: "Nicole A. Taylor"
Subject: re: Wickenheiser's place on the team
Just FYI:
Hayley Wickenheiser is not the captain of the Canadian team, Stacey Wilson
is. And Wilson, has the level head, amazing skills and controlled
attitude that that paition needs. The assistant captains are Cassie
Campbell and Therese Brisson.
From the quote posted, it is clear that Hayley acknowledges her
shortcomings and knows what she needs to work on. That shows that she has
the potential to one day, in the future, be a captain herself.
Nic
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:33:54 -0600 (CST)
From: John Edwards
Subject: Re: media & the Nats
On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Bryan Parker wrote:
> (By the way, the Stingers defeated Trois-Rivieres 10-1 in game one of
> their best-of-three playoffs yesterday.)
>
> So far, Concordia, Trois-Rivieres, Toronto, Guelph and St. Mary's are
> confirmed. I haven't heard which team from the West will be here.
The Alberta Pandas. They defeated Manitoba 4-3 in OT last night. I will post
full details of the Canada West Tournament later tonight.
John Edwards,
Stats Drunk Computer Nerd,
Manitoba Bisons Women's Hockey Team.
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The opinions expressed are mine alone, because everybody else says I'm weird.
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:28:28 -0800
From: Bec Kemp
Subject: Time of Gold Medal Game
At this point I am utterly confused as to when this game is going to be
aired. Can anyone tell me EXACTLY what time (pacific) the game will be
shown on the following channels?
CBUT*
CBS
CBC
I have access to CBUT but have no idea about what time drive there to
watch, I heard it was three a.m. and then heard differently. Thanks in
advance.
Bec Kemp
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wherever you go, there you are!
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:50:35 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: 11 Hours Til The GAME TIME
us lucky people in colorado, and probably around colorado too, don't get the
game till 7am on tape delay, unlike they originally planned to show it live.
The gold medal game and I have to wait untill 3 or 4pm to find out the
results, what a ripoff
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:48:35 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Media exposure
In a message dated 98-02-16 15:05:07 EST, you write:
email@hidden WROTE:
I was talking to my daughter tonight. She was telling me with all the
coverage of the women's hockey games on the Olympics, it seems that the media
has 'discovered' her team. This coming week both the local Albany TV station
and newspaper are coming out to do storieson the RPI's team as well as the
school newspaper.
The term bandwagonner comes to mind, but I guess I shouldn't complain. It is
about time women's sports gets noticed and the same phenomenon that happened
with women'sbasketball seems to be happening with hockey already. I am hoping
that this will then translate to more people attending
the games this coming weekend. I am curious if other teams are starting to
receive like interest from the media?
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You couldn't say it better when you call them "bandwagonners" But I guess
thats what it takes to get the publicity out. I think the media thing started
for me this summer when I played on my first all girls roller hockey team.
Some of the women wanted some exposure and called the newspapers and what not
and we had some attention that really attracted a lot more women. Now that I
am at college again (my second year and season) with the roller hockey club
here, i have never had any attention for being the only girl on the team,
until now of course, with the olympics. School and local paper. So it's been
good for the sport. The adult league I also play in has recieved a couple of
calls from women interested it the sport (And believe me this is far from
hockeytown) I think the attention is great and I am looking forward to seeing
where women's hockey will be after the olympics. (although I must admit I
wish I could have grown up with this kind of exposure)
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:45:16 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Re: US TV Coverage
At 12:16 PM -0800 2/16/98, Cindy Goodman wrote:
> We in Canada have been inundated with CURLING.
Ahem. In your opinion. As a curling fan, I've been enjoying it mightily.
(but it just shows how impossible a task olympic coverage is -- if you
try to satisfy everyone, you end up satisfying nobody...)
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:38:23 -0600 (CST)
From: email@hidden
Subject: Shannon Miller
I have been reading all the comments about the Canadian team and the criticisms of Shannon Miller.
I am truely an outsider on this and have only read the comments with interest, but since being
from the States, I don't have deep feelings for the problem.
My question to those of you who have been commenting on this issue, What about the sacrafices that
Shannon Miller has done to become the coach of the team? Have you thought of the thankless job
she is trying to do and what she has given up for the team? She apparently has put her career on
hold to coach the team. What other things has she given up? I was just wondering if any of you
thought about how demoralizing it has to be for the team and the coach to be second-guessed,
criticized and basically torn apart in all the medias?
I see the same type of thing happening with the Canadian men's team. Crawford being criticized
for playing Roy and everyone saying he is playing favorites because Roy is his goaltender. I'll
tell you, after last nights game, I would prefer to see someone else in goal, but not because he
did a bad job!8-)
Thank goodness such controversies have not hit the US team. (yet!)
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:43:56 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: 11 Hours Til The GAME TIME
In a message dated 98-02-16 21:30:37 EST, you write:
> don't get the
> game till 7am on tape delay,
i know i hate it
any one know a way to get sick
by tue so i dont have to do to school and i can see the game
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:59:39 -0600 (CST)
From: John Edwards
Subject: Re: Time of Gold Medal Game
On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Bec Kemp wrote:
> At this point I am utterly confused as to when this game is going to be
> aired. Can anyone tell me EXACTLY what time (pacific) the game will be
> shown on the following channels?
> CBUT*
> CBC
I can't say for CBS, but CBC will show the game at 1:00 AM Pacific time.
CBUT and CBC are one and the same. CBUT are the call letters for CBC's
Vancouver station.
See you later,
John
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John Edwards - email@hidden - http://www.islandnet.com/~jedwards
Member, Ross Regabliati Fan Club
The opinions expressed are mine alone, because everybody else says I'm weird.
NOTE: I reserve the right to forward any obnoxious and/or stupid mail.
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