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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 602
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Taking the hitting out of football!!?
by email@hidden
2) RE: RE: Comment on girl h.s. hockey in MN
by "Wayne Burgess"
3) Re: Taking the hitting out of football!!?
by email@hidden
4) Re: Goalie Question
by David Swanson
5) Re: Stick handedness and wrist shots, was Re: Goalie Question
by David Swanson
6) Re: women's and girls hockey in Illinois
by email@hidden
7) Re: Equipment and stretchs for goalies
by Shannon Perkins
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 16:57:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Taking the hitting out of football!!?
Message-ID:
Geeze Wayne,
I'll say it again: No one said they wanted to remove checking in the NHL...
(How this discussion took this turn is beyond me...) What I said is that
hockey (specifically women's hockey , and rec. hockey doesn't need to include
checking to be an exciting and agressive game on it's own. If it is NOT
exciting, then how do we explain the growth explosion? Checking or not, we
know it's NOT tennis.
You don't need to point out to us again that hockey is a combative sport.
(Most of us are here most likely, because we play. Remember?) We all have
the bruises to prove it and both my adult leauges are "no check".
And as for taking the hitting out of football; Out of the question. I do
however suggest that they eliminate the wearing of helmets so we get to see
more of those cracked mellons. Just kidding.
But seriously, no one is trying to generalize anything. If there is ever a
WNHL, I'm sure they'll have their own rules just as the NHL does. If
someone's wants to start a Co-edNHL, with their own special rules, good luck
to 'em.
There's a team and/or a league for everyone. So please, stop accusing people
of wanting to "Take Away Checking" because it'd NEVER happen. No one wants
to "ruin your fun" as you put it.
Sincerely,
and slightly blue in the face...
Lisa Addario,
Boston
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 97 21:23:34 UT
From: "Wayne Burgess"
To: email@hidden
Subject: RE: RE: Comment on girl h.s. hockey in MN
Message-ID:
I am sure the speed of your games are not at the junior or professional level.
I am sure you face only 20 shots but that is directly proportional to the
skill level and spped of your game. I have no problem with no contact hockey I
jusy don't think that the junior or professional ranks should adopt that
style. Sorry, that's how I feel.
-----Original Message-----
From: email@hidden On Behalf Of Syrilyn A Tong
Sent: Friday, June 13, 1997 1:47 PM
To: Subscribers to
Subject: RE: RE: Comment on girl h.s. hockey in MN
Wayne, I don't know where you come from, but the majority of hockey in my
area is "so-called" no-contact (youth leagues younger than pee wee, all
men's leagues, all women's games, and all old timers games). That's
because we play recreationally and have to return to work, school, etc the
next morning. Even though there is "no contact" by rule, there is still
contact (incidental and a little rub-out), so you can never take out
contact entirely. The point is, men and women enjoy and even desire the
no contact game equally. Incidentally, I am a goalie, and do not face an
inordinate amount of shots in our games - 20-30 is typical.
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 22:30:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Taking the hitting out of football!!?
Message-ID:
Actually, there's no reason to start a "coed-NHL." To date, there have been
female goalies in something like half a dozen minor pro leagues. I honestly
don't think we're going to see female forwards or defensemen in the pros any
time soon, but female goalies are common enough that they don't automatically
make headlines. I guess this is progress in a weird way....:)
Lisa Evans
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 20:01:12 -0700
From: David Swanson
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Goalie Question
Message-ID:
Judi Stevens wrote:
>
> Jackie,
> My daughter plays goalie, she is a left-handed shooter. She catches right
> in goal, about 1/3 of the goalies I know do this. We were told when she
> started, to go by the hand she naturally catches with (playing ball).
> There is the exception for catching left. The other goalie on her team
> last year, was a natural lefty, but his parents couldn't find a left glove
> when he started. Now he will not change even though he is much quicker
> left-handed. I hope this helps.
> We did not get her goalie skates until half way through the season. This
> gave her time to get use to the extra equipment before changing skates.
> Also watch the 'weight' of the stick, getting the lightest will make it
> easier for her to get use to.
>
> Bree and Judi Stevens
> PS: I still have some of Bree's equip., she started playing at that age (if
> anyone is interested). By the way, what do you do with used equipment???
> In San Diego, we really don't have a way of 'recycling', used equipment. Any
> suggestions??
>
> At 08:14 PM 6/11/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >I have a 7 year old daughter who has now completed her "Mandatory" 2 years of
> >playing out (at Mom's insistence) to prove herself commited enough to play
> >Goal. Now that the time has come I have a question before I start purchasing
> >her equipment. She is a left-handed shooter, so what hand will she hold the
> >goal stick and what hand will she catch with?
> >
> >Jackie
> >
> >
> Thank you,
>
> Judi Stevens
> MITS-CSD Help Desk
> phone: 619/618-3921
> fax: 619/618-1460
> E-Mail: email@hidden
Judi,
Regarding used equipment; see if there is a Play It Again Sports in
your area, they will give you cash, or credit towards other equipment
they sell for your used stuff. Although I havn't explored the San Diego
area, I know there are quite a few in the Los Angeles area, and they are
all over Northern Cal., so check into it. Good Luck!
Annie, #77
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 20:16:15 -0700
From: David Swanson
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Stick handedness and wrist shots, was Re: Goalie Question
Message-ID:
Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> > email@hidden wrote:
> >
> > I have a 7 year old daughter who has now completed her "Mandatory" 2
> years of
> > playing out (at Mom's insistence) to prove herself commited enough
> to play
> > Goal. Now that the time has come I have a question before I start
> > purchasing
> > her equipment. She is a left-handed shooter, so what hand will she
> > hold the
> > goal stick and what hand will she catch with?
> >
>
> Laurie Sefton is the one who should really answer this question, but just
> in case she's away, I'll give it a try.
>
> In Canada, it's standard for skaters to use their dominant hand (usually the
> right hand) on the top of the stick, since that gives them more control. The
> non-dominant hand (usually the left hand) is the power hand; it's easier to
> build strength than dexterity. Canadian right-handers usually shoot left, and
> Canadian left-handers shoot right. That means that when these players are
> using one hand on the stick, they're holding the stick in their dominant
> (usually right) hand.
>
> Similarly, goalies usually hold the stick in their dominant hand, which leaves
> the other hand to catch with. Most NHL goalies catch left.
>
> Your daughter should do what's comfortable for her. You could buy her the
> goalie stick first, before the glove and blocker, and get one with no curve.
> Then you could watch her as she played with the stick and see what hand she
> wants to hold it it. If she shoots left, she'll probably want to catch left,
> and if she shoots right, she'll probably want to catch right, but see what
> seems correct for her.
>
> A few months ago, I posted a question about whether I should try switching
> from shooting right to shooting left. I'm right-handed. I did switch, and
> I'm glad of it. I'm far better one-handed with my right hand than my left,
> and my backhands are better as well. I have the worst wrist shot on my
> (otherwise all-male) beginner's team-- it's weak, and I can't get it to come
> up off the ice-- but other women on other teams tell me that this is quite
> usual for beginner women, who have much less upper-body strength than their
> male teammates. I'd love to hear from other players about what they've done
> to improve their shots.
>
> -- Anne Paulson
Anne,
The only thing that's helped me is -- practice, practice, practice!!
Sometimes (after the two hundredth shot) it's pretty dull, but if you
stick with it you will see improvement. You can just shoot at a garage
door or a wall, but after you can get some lift on your shots it's fun
to make a target (a cardboard box with a hole cut in it works) and see
how many times you can hit it out of, say, ten shots... One good off-ice
drill to help with stick-handling is to place your gloves about shoulder
width apart on a smooth surface and just practice doing figure-eights
around them with the puck, working on not knocking the gloves across the
room! You can push them closer together as it becomes easier... Anyway,
good luck with your shot!!
Annie, #77
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 00:07:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: women's and girls hockey in Illinois
Message-ID:
Erin-
I have twice tried to send e-mail directly to you or rich and have had it
returned both times for bad address. Is there a problem?
Sherwin Zaban
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 09:24:51 -0400
From: Shannon Perkins
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Equipment and stretchs for goalies
Message-ID:
At 08:41 AM 6/13/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I have just switched over from ringette to senior rec hockey. I rented
>some equipment for last season but will be buying equipment this
>season. Any recommendations for upper body protection and gloves? It
>seems that upper body stuff is just a touch to long and my hand slips a
>bit in the gloves. Has anyone bought any custom made equipment
>(i.e.Kay ) that fits great? Does any manufacturer cater to female
>goalies?
>
>Also any one know some good source books for stretches?
>
>Any info on interesting web sites for goalies?
>
I would look into Battram custom goalie equipment. I've sworn by Brian's
stuff for the past couple of seasons, but I'll be buying a new glove,
customed so the
inside glove fits my hand, but the size and shape of the glove doesn't
change, i.e. I could have senior sized glove on the outside and a junior
size glove on the outside. There is no charge for custom work, and they are
very reasonable on pricing. You can check out the Battram site at
http://execulink.com/~sbattram/
Good luck!
Shannon Perkins-#1 K-Wings
email@hidden
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/4576/
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