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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 601
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Stick handedness and wrist shots, was Re: Goalie Question
by Anne Paulson
2) RE: Goalie Question
by "Wayne Burgess"
3) RE: RE: Comment on girl h.s. hockey in MN
by "Wayne Burgess"
4) Re: Goalie Question - skates
by Judi Stevens
5) need more players in Denver
by email@hidden
6) 1997 USA Hockey rule changes
by Elmer Laydon
7) Canadian National Championships
by Alan Chim
8) Equipment and stretchs for goalies
by TANYA MARTIN
9) Re: Goalie Question
by Syrilyn A Tong
10) RE: RE: Comment on girl h.s. hockey in MN
by Syrilyn A Tong
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 11:27:41 -0700
From: Anne Paulson
To: email@hidden
Subject: Stick handedness and wrist shots, was Re: Goalie Question
Message-ID:
> email@hidden wrote:
>
> I have a 7 year old daughter who has now completed her "Mandatory" 2
years of
> playing out (at Mom's insistence) to prove herself commited enough
to play
> Goal. Now that the time has come I have a question before I start
> purchasing
> her equipment. She is a left-handed shooter, so what hand will she
> hold the
> goal stick and what hand will she catch with?
>
Laurie Sefton is the one who should really answer this question, but just
in case she's away, I'll give it a try.
In Canada, it's standard for skaters to use their dominant hand (usually the
right hand) on the top of the stick, since that gives them more control. The
non-dominant hand (usually the left hand) is the power hand; it's easier to
build strength than dexterity. Canadian right-handers usually shoot left, and
Canadian left-handers shoot right. That means that when these players are
using one hand on the stick, they're holding the stick in their dominant
(usually right) hand.
Similarly, goalies usually hold the stick in their dominant hand, which leaves
the other hand to catch with. Most NHL goalies catch left.
Your daughter should do what's comfortable for her. You could buy her the
goalie stick first, before the glove and blocker, and get one with no curve.
Then you could watch her as she played with the stick and see what hand she
wants to hold it it. If she shoots left, she'll probably want to catch left,
and if she shoots right, she'll probably want to catch right, but see what
seems correct for her.
A few months ago, I posted a question about whether I should try switching
from shooting right to shooting left. I'm right-handed. I did switch, and
I'm glad of it. I'm far better one-handed with my right hand than my left,
and my backhands are better as well. I have the worst wrist shot on my
(otherwise all-male) beginner's team-- it's weak, and I can't get it to come
up off the ice-- but other women on other teams tell me that this is quite
usual for beginner women, who have much less upper-body strength than their
male teammates. I'd love to hear from other players about what they've done
to improve their shots.
-- Anne Paulson
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 97 15:02:12 UT
From: "Wayne Burgess"
To: email@hidden
Subject: RE: Goalie Question
Message-ID:
She will hold it with her right hand and catch with her left. My advice is to
go into a hockey specialty shop. They will provide all the advice you should
need. I am sure you are aware goalie equipment is extremely expensive so find
some good used stuff that is going to provide the right protection. Equipment
will not make her a good goalie. Her skill will.
-----Original Message-----
From: email@hidden On Behalf Of email@hidden
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 1997 11:15 PM
To: Subscribers to
Subject: Goalie Question
I have a 7 year old daughter who has now completed her "Mandatory" 2 years of
playing out (at Mom's insistence) to prove herself commited enough to play
Goal. Now that the time has come I have a question before I start purchasing
her equipment. She is a left-handed shooter, so what hand will she hold the
goal stick and what hand will she catch with?
Jackie
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 97 18:47:34 UT
From: "Wayne Burgess"
To: email@hidden
Subject: RE: RE: Comment on girl h.s. hockey in MN
Message-ID:
Let me make sure you are aware that I am getting the point. Yes without a
doubt if you remove the intentional body contact from the game then the
skilled players will most definitely have greater influence on the game.
So I get it.
My point is that intentional clean body contact is a positive and I enjoy it
along with thousands of other players.
-----Original Message-----
From: email@hidden On Behalf Of DAVE BAKER
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 1997 12:49 PM
To: Subscribers to
Subject: RE: RE: Comment on girl h.s. hockey in MN
> I once again must stress that the sport of hockey is a combative sport and
if
> you want to create leagues without contact then fine. You can even try to
> compete with them, but please don't try to generalize the sport into a
unisex
> version. It is not meant to be played that way. Yes Womens hockey has come
> leaps and bounds and when I am out on the rink on a Saturday morning and
> thereare 18 and 19 year old girls skating circles around me I see the proof.
Wayne,
I still think you are missing the point. There is lot's of contact
in the women's game. However, what there is not is intentional body
checking. There are still many ways to check an opponent, without a
body check. This forces a higher skill level with respect to
removing the puck from the puck carrier. In fact, now you must be
able to skate with your opponent, not just have muscle and size to
overpower the opponent in an attempt to seperate the puck from the
puck carrier. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I hate body
checking in the game...I'm just as big a fan as anyone else for a
solid bodycheck, but I also enjoy the skill demonstrated by the elite
women's game.
My thoughts, not necessarily my employer's.
David Baker
Manager, Officiating
CANADIAN HOCKEY
email@hidden
www.canadianhockey.ca
www.hhof.com/html/chocoe.htm
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 11:58:35 -0700
From: Judi Stevens
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Goalie Question - skates
Message-ID:
Jan,
I agree that goalie skates are easier for them to skate in. We were told by
a number of people that using the reg. skates until they get used to the
pads works for alot of goalies that started as regular players.
My daughter wears her goalie skates which are sharpened every other week (2
practices/ 1 game a week). She wears her forward skates the same amount and
sharpens once a month. You also made a very valid point on 'edges', finding
the correct radius can be one of the hardest things get right. We found
that getting the 'edge' for her home rink seems to work the best. Since she
is on the ice there more, even though they don't work as well at all the
other rinks.
At 10:34 AM 6/12/97 -0700, you wrote:
>
>
> You might want to get her goalie skates right away, though. The
> blades a longer, flater, and wider. They are ground to a much larger
> radius and are designed to facilitate the movements that goalies must
> do, which are different from the other players. My son started
> playing goal when he was seven, but we didn't find goalie skates to
> fit that first season. When we finally did, he found it MUCH easier
> to do many of the goalie-specific movements.
>
> Contrary to popular myths, goalies need their skates sharpened almost
> as often as regular skates. More often, in fact, if your daughter
> does a lot of skating drills at practice with the rest of her team.
> When you get your daughter's goalie skates sharpened, ask what radius
> was used [if you get a dumb look, start going somewhere else for
> sharpenings] and make a note. Ask your daughter how she liked her
> edges, and go for more or less edge (smaller or larger radius) as she
> thinks. Once you get her preferred radius worked out, the 'hit or
> miss' aspect of sharpening is removed. My son can tell if his edges
> aren't right in about two strides!
>
> Jan.
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 00:35:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: need more players in Denver
Message-ID:
Hi everyone,
I am trying to get as many women as possible to show up at the women's
drop-in at Foothills Ice Arena this coming Wednesday. Given the lack of ice
that we've had to deal with, it would be such a shame to lose this prime ice
time. The drop-in is from 8-9:30pm, and costs $8. If you would like to show
up (the rink is in Lakewood), please call the rink after 12pm on Wednesday to
reserve your spot. That way, we can show the rink how much interest there is
out there for women's hockey. The phone number is 303-989-5152.
Tell all your friends in Denver. Thanks for your help!!!!
Jacqueline
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 05:57:04 -0400
From: Elmer Laydon
To: email@hidden
Subject: 1997 USA Hockey rule changes
Message-ID:
I have added a page to the Polar Bear web site that lists the changes USA
Hockey has made to the playing rules for 1997-99. It can be found at:
http://www.ctpolarbears.com
Elmer A. Laydon
Connecticut Polar Bears
email@hidden
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 05:45:28 -0700
From: Alan Chim
To: email@hidden
Subject: Canadian National Championships
Message-ID:
Just read in my summary of CHA happenings that the CHA is assessing the
feasibility of having a National Championships starting the year 2000 and
running every year that there is no Canada Winter Games.
Anyone have any more information about this?
Alan.
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 11:24:18 -0400
From: TANYA MARTIN
To: email@hidden
Subject: Equipment and stretchs for goalies
Message-ID:
I have just switched over from ringette to senior rec hockey. I rented
some equipment for last season but will be buying equipment this
season. Any recommendations for upper body protection and gloves? It
seems that upper body stuff is just a touch to long and my hand slips a
bit in the gloves. Has anyone bought any custom made equipment
(i.e.Kay ) that fits great? Does any manufacturer cater to female
goalies?
Also any one know some good source books for stretches?
Any info on interesting web sites for goalies?
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 09:31:45 -0800 (AKDT)
From: Syrilyn A Tong
To: Subscribers to
Subject: Re: Goalie Question
Message-ID:
I, too was a lefty shooter before stepping into the net, and the
transition was very smooth for me! I hold the stick in my right, and the
glove in my left, which is probably what your daughter will do, too, as
the upper hand on the forward stick is oftentimes the dominant hand, which
should hold the goalie stick. When she gets to the stage of
handling/shooting the puck, this will be great, as the "natural" side that
she currently holds her stick will also be the side that she can shoot
with the goalie stick (without switching hands, as some people do) simply
by sliding her stick hand to the top of the goalie stick. Good luck!
Incidentally, I'm glad she learned to skate out first, I believe the
goalie should be the best, most precise skater on the ice.
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 09:41:03 -0800 (AKDT)
From: Syrilyn A Tong
To: Subscribers to
Subject: RE: RE: Comment on girl h.s. hockey in MN
Message-ID:
Wayne, I don't know where you come from, but the majority of hockey in my
area is "so-called" no-contact (youth leagues younger than pee wee, all
men's leagues, all women's games, and all old timers games). That's
because we play recreationally and have to return to work, school, etc the
next morning. Even though there is "no contact" by rule, there is still
contact (incidental and a little rub-out), so you can never take out
contact entirely. The point is, men and women enjoy and even desire the
no contact game equally. Incidentally, I am a goalie, and do not face an
inordinate amount of shots in our games - 20-30 is typical.
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