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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 637
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Playing with the Big Boys
by Andria Hunter
2) Hey Everyone!
by "Katie Rose"
3)
by "Algoma Training Board"
4) Re: just an annoyance
by "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
5) Re: just an annoyance
by email@hidden
6) Re: just an annoyance
by email@hidden
7) Re: just an annoyance
by "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
8) Fw: just an annoyance
by "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
9) Off Season...Not, and Hockey Camp
by email@hidden
10) Favorite hockey player
by email@hidden
11) Re: just an annoyance
by "C.L. Smart"
12) Re: just an annoyance
by Gary Goldberg and/or Debbie Minden
13) Women's Hockey Tournament
by email@hidden (Liam, Agnes & Daniel Coughlan)
14) Re: Favorite hockey player
by "Elizabeth Bell"
15) Re:
by Kellie Ford
16) Re: Favorite hockey player
by Kellie Ford
17) Re: Favorite hockey player
by Kellie Ford
18) Re: just an annoyance
by Debrah Sheets
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:44:07 -0400
From: Andria Hunter
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Playing with the Big Boys
Message-ID:
>>Men are so smelly! They sweat buckets and most women just
>> don't, or if they do they don't reek the way men do. It's quite
>> overpowering sometimes.
>
>The answer is that men would rather throw their equipment in the bag and
>store it until next week, whereas women go home and take care of their
>gear. The men smell that bad before they even start to sweat!
My boyfriend and I air out our equipment equally weel, but his stuff
smells worse than mine (with the exception of perhaps my smelly
gloves!). But it's not necessarily the difference between men and
women because my roommate's stuff (she is a woman) smells waaaay
worse than my boyfriend's!
So, in conclusion, I think it really depends on the person. From
my experience, men usually smell worse than women, but there are
definitely some exceptions. And yes, I agree, airing out the
equipment right away does make a big difference.
Andria
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:17:43 PDT
From: "Katie Rose"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Hey Everyone!
Message-ID:
Well, I'm relativly new to the list. I've been watching and reading for
about a week, to see what you guys talk about and stuff. Tonight I'm
officially giving hockey a try. It's a powerskating and skill camp like
thing. I'm looking forward to it. Well, wish me luck! And I'm happy to
be on this new list! (I hope you guys are as happy as me!)
Katie Rose
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:28:04 -0400
From: "Algoma Training Board"
To:
Message-ID:
Hi! I'm looking for articles,posters,pictures and anything else about my
favorite player Hayley Wickenheiser. I am also wondering about summer
overnight hockey camps in Ontario. A goaltender program must be availible
from the camp.
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:49:48 -0700
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
To:
Subject: Re: just an annoyance
Message-ID:
Hi Heidi,
> I've just got to get this off my chest: for over a year now i've hated
> the Easton hockey ad that features Mike Modano and his puckbunnies. Now
> that I might possibly be starting to play hockey this year, I've sworn
> not to buy Easton equipment.
I have to disagree with you here...Almost all of my equipment is Easton.
Buy equipment because it fits well and protects you well, not because you
believe, or don't believe, in their ads. Furthermore, that ad isn't aimed
at women who buy hockey equipment, it's aimed directly at men. If that's
what it takes to sell to men, well, you have to go with what works, and
lets face facts, men will buy Easton because of the ad. And, lastly, I
hate to admit this (no, I don't hate to admit it, really) but part of what
attracted me to hockey in the first place was how cute their butts were : )
I now play hockey myself, but I will always look to see how cute the
players are. I am a reformed (ok, not even reformed) puck bunny and proud
of it : )
Debbie
Debbie
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:20:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: just an annoyance
Message-ID:
how can you see their butts through all that equipment?????
Jenn
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:38:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: just an annoyance
Message-ID:
Men also buy CCM, Jofa and Titan, and they don't use groupies in their ads.
The best and funniest ads out there right now are those Nike ads with the
broken down old goalies living in paper boxes, or scrubbing floors in full
equipment.
I don't play hockey, but if I did, Easton would be the last name on my list.
There's plenty of equipment just as good (or better) out there that doesn't
feel the need to insult part of its customer base, or play into stereotypes.
There are enough men out there who condescend to female fans/players as it
is without widely distributed advertisements that make it seem that the only
reason women are interested in hockey players is because of their looks.
I'd also like to know how anyone can tell if a player has a cute butt or not,
considering that said butts are encased in inch thick padding during
play.....:)
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 16:55:27 -0700
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
To:
Subject: Re: just an annoyance
Message-ID:
> how can you see their butts through all that equipment?????
>
> Jenn
Haven't you ever seen them before or after a game in their suits, or in a
locker room interview?
Or, a little closer to home, I play with mostly men and we use the same
dressing room...by now they don't even remember there are females in the
room with them (19 of them 2 of us)...
Debbie
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:22:28 -0700
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
To:
Subject: Fw: just an annoyance
Message-ID:
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> From: Phil & Debbie Cottrell
> To: email@hidden
> Subject: Re: just an annoyance
> Date: July 21, 1997 4:53 PM
>
> > There's plenty of equipment just as good (or better) out there that
> doesn't
> > feel the need to insult part of its customer base, or play into
> stereotypes.
>
> I don't see it as insulting part of its customer base...I see it as the
> advertising agents finding the best way to sell their product. It's a
way
> to get men to look at their sign, that's all. Do you dispise the new
Diet
> Coke ad that's out with the guy who comes in to fill up the machine?
Diet
> Coke is simply trying to grab women's attention...
>
> > I'd also like to know how anyone can tell if a player has a cute butt
or
> not,
> > considering that said butts are encased in inch thick padding during
> > play.....:)
>
> Ever see them before the game, or after in their suits? Or how about in
> those locker room interviews? : )
>
>
> Debbie
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 20:37:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Off Season...Not, and Hockey Camp
Message-ID:
Off season I love summer Hockey!!!! I play back to back on Saturday
nights...a total of 3 hrs It is a great workout..
And next week I am off to UNH's Womens Hockey camp for the week.
I also called up about a coed league that is going on currently, and may join
another clinic or cardio skate group one night a week.
Spring/Summer/Fall are great seasons for Hockey... I'd rather not have an
"Off Season"!
As far as playing with the guys learn to skate have confidence and don't let
them push you around. Some of them don't play that well either. Go out there
and have a good time.
less than 1 week to Hockey Camp...
Also stay tuned for a women's program that hopefully will develop this fall
in the Southern NH and Northern MA areas.... more details as they develop.
And on another note there is finally a sign posted in Hooksett on 3A for the
"Tri-Town Rink" .... the rink still needs to be built, but it seems they may
have ironed out the finances and permits. YEEHAH!!!
Until L8R skate & have fun
Hockeychck...Michelle
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:36:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Favorite hockey player
Message-ID:
I just joined this list so I'm not exactly sure how it works. I am from
california and I play Goalie for a Midget boys team and Team California.
My favorite player in the entire world is Cammi Granato. She plays for Team
USA and used to play for Concordia and PC. That is all really I have to say
about her but if you are a Cammi Granato fan too, email me (or Instant
message me) becasue I would really like it.
Talk to everybody soon!
Chanda
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:26:21 -0700
From: "C.L. Smart"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: just an annoyance
Message-ID:
Hey, I know what we can do! Once the NHL season starts, we'll have a
"cute goalie butt of the week" contest. At the end of the year, the NHL
goalie who got named "C.G.B.o.t.W." most often will be awarded the
"C.G.B.o.t.Y."! The reason I specify goalies is because their butts can
be closely monitored by watching the games. I'm sure you have all seen
the view from the net camera, where all you can really see is a
HUMONGOUS black-padded goalie butt taking up the entire camera.
Naturally, he's always bending over, so you get a WAY better look that
you'd really like. You can't see anything else but that butt! I say we
rename it the "butt camera" and nominate "C.G.B.o.t.W." candidates based
upon the fine, up close views we get from the ol' butt-cam.
This is NOT meant as sarcasm directed at anyone. It's just that my son
(who is a goalie) and I always collapse with laughter when they start
panning with the butt-cam, and this particular thread reminded me of how
hilarious breezer-clad butts can be.
C.L.
Phil & Debbie Cottrell wrote:
> Hi Heidi,
>
> > I've just got to get this off my chest: for over a year now i've
> hated
> > the Easton hockey ad that features Mike Modano and his puckbunnies.
> Now
> > that I might possibly be starting to play hockey this year, I've
> sworn
> > not to buy Easton equipment.
>
> I have to disagree with you here...Almost all of my equipment is
> Easton.
> Buy equipment because it fits well and protects you well, not because
> you
> believe, or don't believe, in their ads. Furthermore, that ad isn't
> aimed
> at women who buy hockey equipment, it's aimed directly at men. If
> that's
> what it takes to sell to men, well, you have to go with what works,
> and
> lets face facts, men will buy Easton because of the ad. And, lastly,
> I
> hate to admit this (no, I don't hate to admit it, really) but part of
> what
> attracted me to hockey in the first place was how cute their butts
> were : )
> I now play hockey myself, but I will always look to see how cute the
> players are. I am a reformed (ok, not even reformed) puck bunny and
> proud
> of it : )
>
> Debbie
>
> Debbie
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 23:00:31 -0400
From: Gary Goldberg and/or Debbie Minden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: just an annoyance
Message-ID:
>> I now play hockey myself, but I will always look to see how cute the
>> players are. I am a reformed (ok, not even reformed) puck bunny and
>> proud
>> of it : )
>>
>> Debbie
>>
Really? I am always amazed at just what a well placed puck can do to a
guy's face. There is no uglier team than the Flyers. (I love them, but
really, they are *butt* ugly.) Through the detritus of years of hockey,
you can see the previously-cute. Maybe that is why they make so much.
Loot for looks.
Debbie
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 20:02:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: email@hidden (Liam, Agnes & Daniel Coughlan)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Women's Hockey Tournament
Message-ID:
Hi!
The Tri-City Warriors are pleased to announce their
1st Annual Women's Hockey Tournament
from August 22, 23, 24, 1997
at the Burnaby Ice Sports Center - 8 Rinks, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Open to all women's teams and/or individuals
FORMAT:
2 divisions of 8 Teams:
Tier 1 - Women's AAA & AA
Tier 2 - Women's A & Recreational
GAMES:
Each Game will be 1 1/4 hours in length
5 minute warm-up
10 minute 1st period
15 minute 2nd period
1/2 available time 3rd period max 15 minute
COST:
$550 CDN or $399 U.S. per team before August 3rd, 50% down payment to hold
early bird registration
$600 CDN or $435 U.S. per team after August 3rd, 50% down payment by August 15th
all teams must have their deposits in by August 15th to hold their spot in
the tournament
any withdrawals from the tournament must be made by this date in order to
have deposit refunded
for any teams that are short of players, we are accepting individual
registrations so that you may have a full roster
INDIVIDUALS
$40 CDN per person before August 3rd, 50% down payment to hold early bird
registration
$50 CDN per person after August 3rd, 50% down payment by August 15th
You will be guaranteed a position in this tournament if registered early,
individuals will be organized into teams of like abilities and any extra
persons will be placed into teams that are short of players.
If you have a partial team or only a few players that you know of that wish
to play, please contact us and we will do our best to ensure that you will play.
AWARDS
Trophies and medals will be awarded for the top 2 teams in each division.
Awards and prizes will be handed out on Sunday Evening in the Penalty Box
Lounge.
This will be an excellent opportunity to try out any new players and warm up
your team for the upcoming season!
If you wish to register, have any questions or comments, please contact:
Linda McCann at (604) 936-5321 (phone) or (604) 936-5393 (fax)
or email Liam Coughlan at email@hidden
Don't forget to visit our website at www.winfonet.com/Tricities
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 23:09:22 -0400
From: "Elizabeth Bell"
To:
Subject: Re: Favorite hockey player
Message-ID: <19970722031219.AAA19991@default>
I haven't really been able to see Cammi Granato play much, but I am a huge
fan of hers, and can't wait until the 98 olympics.
Alexis
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> From: email@hidden
> To: Subscribers to
> Subject: Favorite hockey player
> Date: Monday, July 21, 1997 9:39 PM
>
> I just joined this list so I'm not exactly sure how it works. I am from
> california and I play Goalie for a Midget boys team and Team California.
>
> My favorite player in the entire world is Cammi Granato. She plays for
Team
> USA and used to play for Concordia and PC. That is all really I have to
say
> about her but if you are a Cammi Granato fan too, email me (or Instant
> message me) becasue I would really like it.
>
> Talk to everybody soon!
>
> Chanda
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 23:33:24 -0400
From: Kellie Ford
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re:
Message-ID:
At 12:45 PM 21/07/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi! I'm looking for articles,posters,pictures and anything else about my
>favorite player Hayley Wickenheiser. I am also wondering about summer
>overnight hockey camps in Ontario. A goaltender program must be availible
>from the camp.
>
>Hi, I also am a big fan of Hayley Wickenheiser and would love some pictures
too but have no idea where to find them if I find any I will let you know
please do the same for me. Thanks
Christine
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 23:36:48 -0400
From: Kellie Ford
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Favorite hockey player
Message-ID:
At 06:39 PM 21/07/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I just joined this list so I'm not exactly sure how it works. I am from
>california and I play Goalie for a Midget boys team and Team California.
>
>My favorite player in the entire world is Cammi Granato. She plays for Team
>USA and used to play for Concordia and PC. That is all really I have to say
>about her but if you are a Cammi Granato fan too, email me (or Instant
>message me) becasue I would really like it.
>
>Talk to everybody soon!
>
>Chanda
>
>Hi I am also a huge Cammi Granato fan. You can get a free poster of her
and Mark Messier by writing to Kelly Dyer. I have her address but don't
have the time right now e-mail me soon and I will gladly give it to you
email@hidden
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 23:39:36 -0400
From: Kellie Ford
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Favorite hockey player
Message-ID:
At 08:16 PM 21/07/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I haven't really been able to see Cammi Granato play much, but I am a huge
>fan of hers, and can't wait until the 98 olympics.
> Alexis
>
>----------
>> From: email@hidden
>> To: Subscribers to
>> Subject: Favorite hockey player
>> Date: Monday, July 21, 1997 9:39 PM
>>
>> I just joined this list so I'm not exactly sure how it works. I am from
>> california and I play Goalie for a Midget boys team and Team California.
>
>>
>> My favorite player in the entire world is Cammi Granato. She plays for
>Team
>> USA and used to play for Concordia and PC. That is all really I have to
>say
>> about her but if you are a Cammi Granato fan too, email me (or Instant
>> message me) becasue I would really like it.
>>
>> Talk to everybody soon!
>>
>> Chanda
>
>Alexis I am too a Cammi Granato fan. I have been lucky enough to have seen
her play three times. She is so amazing to watch. E-mail me back so we can
chat.
email@hidden
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 23:54:40 -0400
From: Debrah Sheets
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: just an annoyance
Message-ID:
I won't wear anything from a company who thinks I'm a dimwit. I would
rather suffer with equipment that doesn't fit perfectly or comfortably
than to but products from a company that sees me as a woman who FOLLOWS
their equiped players around rather than a woman who WEARS their
shoulder pads. If guys don't like the coke commercial, they can stop
drinking diet coke, even though more women drink diet sodas. But Easton
is totally alienating a growing market, and as a hockey equipment
producer, they should know that women's hockey is out there and
growing. They should also know that among female viewers, hockey is
second to football. Therefore many women also read The Hockey News and
other "male" hockey publications where they advertise. Louisville uses
a women but she's in uniform (Cammi Granato) and she can be a role model
for girls. Easton really has to do some market research.
Phil & Debbie Cottrell wrote:
>
> Hi Heidi,
>
> > I've just got to get this off my chest: for over a year now i've hated
> > the Easton hockey ad that features Mike Modano and his puckbunnies. Now
> > that I might possibly be starting to play hockey this year, I've sworn
> > not to buy Easton equipment.
>
> I have to disagree with you here...Almost all of my equipment is Easton.
> Buy equipment because it fits well and protects you well, not because you
> believe, or don't believe, in their ads. Furthermore, that ad isn't aimed
> at women who buy hockey equipment, it's aimed directly at men. If that's
> what it takes to sell to men, well, you have to go with what works, and
> lets face facts, men will buy Easton because of the ad. And, lastly, I
> hate to admit this (no, I don't hate to admit it, really) but part of what
> attracted me to hockey in the first place was how cute their butts were : )
> I now play hockey myself, but I will always look to see how cute the
> players are. I am a reformed (ok, not even reformed) puck bunny and proud
> of it : )
>
> Debbie
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