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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 485
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Growing the Sport for the Lil'Girls!
by Gary Goldberg and/or Debbie Minden
2) Re: Manon's whereabouts
by Abby
3) Mass. girl's public high school state tournament results
by Larry Todd
4) Re[2]: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 482
by email@hidden (COLE/DALE)
5) Re: **Petition Update**
by "Graham J. Brown"
6) Re: Manon
by email@hidden
7) Mid-Atlantic Women's League Weekend Game Results and Standings
by Mary Wood
8) Re: **Petition Update** -Reply
by "Joanna L. Avery"
9) Re: Re[2]: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 482
by Laurie Solgon
10) Re: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 482
by "SYRILYN TONG"
11) Re: Re[2]: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 482
by "SYRILYN TONG"
12) Women's Roller Hockey Tournament in CA
by Andria Hunter
13) MAWHL Playoffs
by "Deathe, Barbara - DC"
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 06:40:22 -0400
From: Gary Goldberg and/or Debbie Minden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Growing the Sport for the Lil'Girls!
Message-ID:
Jackie,
The other place to look is among the figure skaters. They don't know much
about hockey, but they can really skate and have an ice ethic - early
mornings, the crazy hours. Our girls team is about half figure skaters who
were getting to the point where they were tired of the sport, wanting a
team vs. solo experience etc. They were all about 13 when the hockey bug
hit them. They actually requested a girl's team and we used them as the
nucleus. We now have about 18 kids.
I agree with Chuck. Younger girls really benefit from staying in a boys
league. First of all, you won't find enough young girls to offer any
variety or competition, and second, until they hit puberty with growth
spurts that separate them by size, the boys and girls are pretty much the
same.
Debbie
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 06:53:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Abby
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Manon's whereabouts
Message-ID:
I played for Team Nike (Portland, OR) this summer. I spoke with the team
manager a couple of months ago and she didn't say anything about Manon.
Nike has both women's and men's teams and they are not professional. In
fact, we had to pay our share of tournament fees and all of our travel and
hotel expenses. The only thing we got from Nike was wheels (no t-shirts,
no ball caps - nothing). Wheels are good, and it was a lot of fun, but I
don't think Team Nike is the caliber of play that Manon would be involved
in unless things have drastically changed in the last two months.
Abby Clabough
email@hidden
http://www.clarkson.edu/~clabouas/
On Mon, 24 Feb 1997 email@hidden wrote:
> Was told she plays roller for Team Nike.....know anything about that ?
> Was looking foward to seeing her in a roller tourn in CA. , but team Nike was
> a no show ??
>
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 08:31:46 -0500
From: Larry Todd
To: women-in-hockey
Subject: Mass. girl's public high school state tournament results
Message-ID:
Div. II (single elimination)
Needham 4
Arlington 2
Lexington 5
Watertown 1
Remaining games
Div II.
Wed. 2/26 5:00 PM Boston Latin School v. Needham
Fri. 2/28 5:00 PM Fontbonne v. Lexington
Sat. 3/1 9:00 AM L3 v. L4 (consolation)
10:30 AM W3 v. W4 (championship)
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Div I. (double elimination)
Tue. 2/25 4:30 PM Acton/Boxborough v. Lincoln-Sudbury
6:00 PM Brookline v. Framingham
Thu. 2/27 5:00 PM Belmont v. Westwood
Sun. 3/2 5:30 PM L1 v. L2
Tue. 3/4 5:00 PM W4 v. L3
Wed. 3/5 5:00 PM W2 v. W3 (loser eliminated)
Thu. 3/6 5:00 PM W5 v. W1 (loser eliminated)
Sat. 3/8 10:00 AM L6 v. L5 (consolation)
11:30 AM W6 v. W7 (championship)
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Larry T. Todd
Head Coach
Lincoln-Sudbury Regional High School
Girl's Ice Hockey
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 10:56:09 -0500
From: email@hidden (COLE/DALE)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re[2]: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 482
Message-ID:
>______________________________ Reply Separator
>_________________________________
>Subject: Re: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Reno Renegades
Can someone tell me if the Reno Renegades are a Womens or Mens Team?
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:03:18 -0500
From: "Graham J. Brown"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: **Petition Update**
Message-ID:
Regarding the petition that Carolyn has been developing from this list.
There are a number of avenues that you could take to turn some heads and
perhaps get some major public relations out of this. Realistically, if a
media channel has not already prepared to televise an event (such as the
women's hockey championships in March) prior to, at the very least two
months in advance, the chances of any major network covering the event
because of a petition are slim. Also, not to sound negative, 516 names on
a petition is not a large amount when you take into consideration that the
names are more than likely from all over North America. This would mean
that even if the network took the petiton seriously, it would be unlikely
that they would be in a posssiton to televise the event on a national basis
in order to reach all those on the petition's list. Here in Canada we are
fortunate that we do have the support of our major networks when it comes
to hockey (even women's hockey is increasingly getting more coverage,
albeit, a long way from being acceptable). However, to get to the point.
If you really want ot make a difference, look not to the present but to the
future! Why not start preparing to have some of the major women's hockey
events televised next year. I know everyone wants action now, but if a
realistic apporach is taken I am sure the long term results will be more
successful. In stating this, I have included the address of TSN in Canada.
I have also found out the e-mail address of someone at the network who said
he would be more than happy to recieve some e-mail from some people
interested in women's hockey. I cannot remember if I explained that he
might recieve a considerable amount or not. Oh well! I am sure that he
will not mind however. The point here is that if you start lobbying the
networks now , especially the ones that are covering the event, you might
just get a tremendous amount of support and publicity. Also, I have
included the address and contacts at ESPN and ESPN 2 and some of the other
major sports networks. If someone could call and get an e-mail adrress
than we could forward the lists to them directly.
Another good idea would be to forward a package to Don Cherry. He is very
involved with the tournament in Canada and a supporter of women's hockey
(hard to believe eh!), but I guarantee that if there is a controversial
matter that needs addressing to an american sports network, Don is the
person to bring it to light. You can reach Don Cherry by forwarding
letters or anything else to the TSN Sports Network addres listed below. Be
short and to the point. Do not demand anything, just state the facts and I
am sure that if anything, Don Cherry will make a comment about it sometime
durng his coverage of the women's world championships. This may all sound
completly ridiculous, but it works. And, once the papers in Toronto get
wind of this (Hint Hint), also included at the bottom of the list, they
would be very proactive in making point of the poor network support of the
champinships in the USA and elsewhere for that matter.
Sorry that this e-mail was so long winded. I hope that I have been some
help and if the list wants to take a slight detour for the next week or so
(in addition to regular conversation) lets start discussing some of the
alternative routes that are available to get some publicity on this matter
and some publicity (positive ) regarding women's hockey. Petitions are an
effective method of change, but more effective is lobbying the right people
(with a petition).
Hope this helps,
Graham J. Brown
TSN
2225 Sheppard Ave. East, Suite 100
Willowdale, Onatrio,CANADA
M2J 5C2
(416) 494 1212 Phone
(416) 490 7010 Fax
Public Realtions person: Steve Rayment
VP Marketing: Jake Scrudamore
President / GM Jim Thompson
e-mail: email@hidden
(probably would get Steve / Jake & Jim @ tsn.ca also????
Instead of listing all the media. If there is any other media that you
feel might be worthy, you can reach me be e-mail or fax or phone at the
numbers listed below. I have a complete listing of all the majort networks
in North AMerican.
Look forward to anyone's reply.
GB
At 10:10 PM 2/24/97 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>----------
>> From: MISS CAROLYN R SIMON
>> To: Subscribers to
>> Subject: **Petition Update**
>> Date: Monday, February 24, 1997 5:59 PM
>> CAROLYN WROTE:
>> Hello Puck Fans,
>> Here I am again with my periodic update. My grand total for now,
>> excluding approximately 20 or so names, is 519. Yay. This is VERY
>> good! Your help has been tremendous.
>> But I need some more help. Does anyone have any ideas as to where
>> I should bring this from here? I have all these names, and have
>> written e-mails to the general e-mail addresses provided on tv
>> stations' web pages, but have only gotten e-mails back that appear to
>> be written to everyone who writes anything to the network. Does
>> anyone have any ideas or contacts as to who I should go to or send my
>> info to? Thanks!
>> Again, this is a petition to broadcast women's hockey, possibly
>> this year's national championships, on a major broadcasting network.
>> If you would like to help, and please do, please send your name, e-
>> mail address, age, and location to email@hidden Thanks.
>>
>> -Carolyn #21
> Carolyn,
> I found out of experience that you need to talk to people directly to get
>anything done. Look for the name of an editor or other higher-up on the
>homepage of the network. Then take that name, and any information about
>that person, and do a separate search on that person's name to get their
>personal email address. Alot of the time, email addressed to higher-ups
>just gets sent to people who are suppose to represent them and you get a
>pre-typed letter telling you how much they appreciate your feedback.
>
> Good luck!
> Shannon Perkins-#1 K-Wings
> email@hidden
> http://www.angelfire.com/mi/perks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> NJ Selects
>
>
Graham J. Brown BHK MHK
Competitive Sports Travel & Tours Intl. Inc.
111 Heritage Road, Suite 104
Chatham, Ontario, N7M 5W7
CANADA
(519) 352 - 8184 Phone
(519) 352 - 5146 Fax
email@hidden
Visit us @ www.sport-travel.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 08:37:42 PST
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Manon
Message-ID:
> What is the WCHL? Do you mean the WHL? Which team?
The WCHL is the West Coast Hockey League, the team is the Reno
Renegades.
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:53:22 -0500
From: Mary Wood
To: "'Susan Smith'" ,
Subject: Mid-Atlantic Women's League Weekend Game Results and Standings
Message-ID:
Weekend Game Results:
A Division:
2/21 NJ Bandits 3, Philadelphia Freeze 2
Washington Wolves 5, Long Island Hurricanes 3
2/22 Chesapeake Bay Lightning 2, Philadelphia Freeze 1
Delaware Bobcats 3, Washington Wolves 2
Mid-Atlantic Women's Hockey League
A Division Standings as of February 24, 1997
Team Gms Pts W L T G/F GA +/-
NJ Bandits 12 24 12 0 0 64 15 49
NJ Selects 12 12 5 5 2 40 29 11
Chesapeake 11 12 6 5 0 23 27 -4
Long Island 10 11 5 4 1 25 29 -4
Philadelphia 12 9 4 7 1 30 24 6
Washington 11 6 2 7 2 21 43 -22
Delaware 12 6 2 8 2 17 53 -36
B Division Standings as of February 24, 1997
Team Gms Pts W L T GF GA +/-
Chesapeake 5 8 4 1 0 31 6 25
SJ Grizzlies 5 4 2 3 0 15 16 -1
Washington 3 4 2 1 0 6 4 2
Philadelphia 5 2 1 4 0 4 30 -26
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 12:11:04 -0500
From: "Joanna L. Avery"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: **Petition Update** -Reply
Message-ID:
graham -
you forgot to include the address for ESPN/ESPN2. Could you please
list?
thank you
>>> "Graham J. Brown" 02/25/97 11:22am
>>>
Regarding the petition that Carolyn has been developing from this list.
There are a number of avenues that you could take to turn some heads
and
perhaps get some major public relations out of this. Realistically, if a
media channel has not already prepared to televise an event (such as
the
women's hockey championships in March) prior to, at the very least two
months in advance, the chances of any major network covering the
event
because of a petition are slim. Also, not to sound negative, 516 names
on
a petition is not a large amount when you take into consideration that the
names are more than likely from all over North America. This would
mean
that even if the network took the petiton seriously, it would be unlikely
that they would be in a posssiton to televise the event on a national basis
in order to reach all those on the petition's list. Here in Canada we are
fortunate that we do have the support of our major networks when it
comes
to hockey (even women's hockey is increasingly getting more coverage,
albeit, a long way from being acceptable). However, to get to the point.
If you really want ot make a difference, look not to the present but to the
future! Why not start preparing to have some of the major women's
hockey
events televised next year. I know everyone wants action now, but if a
realistic apporach is taken I am sure the long term results will be more
successful. In stating this, I have included the address of TSN in Canada.
I have also found out the e-mail address of someone at the network who
said
he would be more than happy to recieve some e-mail from some people
interested in women's hockey. I cannot remember if I explained that he
might recieve a considerable amount or not. Oh well! I am sure that he
will not mind however. The point here is that if you start lobbying the
networks now , especially the ones that are covering the event, you
might
just get a tremendous amount of support and publicity. Also, I have
included the address and contacts at ESPN and ESPN 2 and some of the
other
major sports networks. If someone could call and get an e-mail adrress
than we could forward the lists to them directly.
Another good idea would be to forward a package to Don Cherry. He is
very
involved with the tournament in Canada and a supporter of women's
hockey
(hard to believe eh!), but I guarantee that if there is a controversial
matter that needs addressing to an american sports network, Don is the
person to bring it to light. You can reach Don Cherry by forwarding
letters or anything else to the TSN Sports Network addres listed below.
Be
short and to the point. Do not demand anything, just state the facts and I
am sure that if anything, Don Cherry will make a comment about it
sometime
durng his coverage of the women's world championships. This may all
sound
completly ridiculous, but it works. And, once the papers in Toronto get
wind of this (Hint Hint), also included at the bottom of the list, they
would be very proactive in making point of the poor network support of
the
champinships in the USA and elsewhere for that matter.
Sorry that this e-mail was so long winded. I hope that I have been some
help and if the list wants to take a slight detour for the next week or so
(in addition to regular conversation) lets start discussing some of the
alternative routes that are available to get some publicity on this matter
and some publicity (positive ) regarding women's hockey. Petitions are
an
effective method of change, but more effective is lobbying the right
people
(with a petition).
Hope this helps,
Graham J. Brown
TSN
2225 Sheppard Ave. East, Suite 100
Willowdale, Onatrio,CANADA
M2J 5C2
(416) 494 1212 Phone
(416) 490 7010 Fax
Public Realtions person: Steve Rayment
VP Marketing: Jake Scrudamore
President / GM Jim Thompson
e-mail: email@hidden
(probably would get Steve / Jake & Jim @ tsn.ca also????
Instead of listing all the media. If there is any other media that you
feel might be worthy, you can reach me be e-mail or fax or phone at the
numbers listed below. I have a complete listing of all the majort networks
in North AMerican.
Look forward to anyone's reply.
GB
At 10:10 PM 2/24/97 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>----------
>> From: MISS CAROLYN R SIMON
>> To: Subscribers to
>> Subject: **Petition Update**
>> Date: Monday, February 24, 1997 5:59 PM
>> CAROLYN WROTE:
>> Hello Puck Fans,
>> Here I am again with my periodic update. My grand total for now,
>> excluding approximately 20 or so names, is 519. Yay. This is VERY
>> good! Your help has been tremendous.
>> But I need some more help. Does anyone have any ideas as to
where
>> I should bring this from here? I have all these names, and have
>> written e-mails to the general e-mail addresses provided on tv
>> stations' web pages, but have only gotten e-mails back that appear to
>> be written to everyone who writes anything to the network. Does
>> anyone have any ideas or contacts as to who I should go to or send
my
>> info to? Thanks!
>> Again, this is a petition to broadcast women's hockey, possibly
>> this year's national championships, on a major broadcasting network.
>> If you would like to help, and please do, please send your name, e-
>> mail address, age, and location to email@hidden
Thanks.
>>
>> -Carolyn #21
> Carolyn,
> I found out of experience that you need to talk to people directly to get
>anything done. Look for the name of an editor or other higher-up on the
>homepage of the network. Then take that name, and any information
about
>that person, and do a separate search on that person's name to get
their
>personal email address. Alot of the time, email addressed to higher-ups
>just gets sent to people who are suppose to represent them and you
get a
>pre-typed letter telling you how much they appreciate your feedback.
>
> Good luck!
> Shannon Perkins-#1 K-Wings
> email@hidden
> http://www.angelfire.com/mi/perks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> NJ Selects
>
>
Graham J. Brown BHK MHK
Competitive Sports Travel & Tours Intl. Inc.
111 Heritage Road, Suite 104
Chatham, Ontario, N7M 5W7
CANADA
(519) 352 - 8184 Phone
(519) 352 - 5146 Fax
email@hidden
Visit us @ www.sport-travel.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:02:35 -0700 (MST)
From: Laurie Solgon
To: Subscribers to
Subject: Re: Re[2]: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 482
Message-ID:
They are a West Coast Hockey League Men's team with, as we know, one
female goalie. The WCHL will be adding a team in Tucson next season.
They're looking for an owner. I'd have thought that you should have the
owner first and THEN the team.
Laurie Solgon - Tucson Hockey mom
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On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, COLE/DALE wrote:
>
> >______________________________ Reply Separator
> >_________________________________
> >Subject: Re: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Reno Renegades
>
> Can someone tell me if the Reno Renegades are a Womens or Mens Team?
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:14:59 AST9ADT
From: "SYRILYN TONG"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 482
Message-ID:
According to my local paper, Manon did suit up and play for
the Reno Renegades against the Alaska Gold Kings of the West Coast Hockey
League as late as 2-21-97. Also according to the newspaper,
she played the entire game, was peppered by 54 or so shots,
and only lost in OT, 5-4.
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:30:26 AST9ADT
From: "SYRILYN TONG"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Re[2]: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 482
Message-ID:
The Reno Renegades are a men's team that plays in the West
Coast Hockey League (WCHL), which is a relatively new
league (2nd year of play). It includes the (Fairbanks)
Alaska Gold Kings, the Anchorage Aces, Bakersfield Fog,
San Diego Gulls, Kharborosk (Russia), and Fresno Falcons.
Manon has been playing with them since Nov 20, 1996.
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:51:01 -0500
From: Andria Hunter
To: email@hidden
Subject: Women's Roller Hockey Tournament in CA
Message-ID:
>Was told she plays roller for Team Nike.....know anything about that ?
>Was looking foward to seeing her in a roller tourn in CA. , but team
>Nike was a no show ??
Well, I'm not sure which roller hockey tournament you were talking
about, but Team Nike (it may or may not be the same team) will be
competing in the 1997 Winter Nationals roller hockey tournament
in California this weekend. I'm not sure if Manon will be competing.
This tournament was supposed to take place in the new Wayne Gretzky
centre, but since its construction was delayed, the tournament will
take place at the Coast to Coast arena in Huntington Beach, CA.
I'll be playing for the Toronto Tornado in this tournament (my groin
injury is finally starting to feel a lot better so I'm playing ice and
roller hockey again! It sure is nice to be back! :-)). It was -17
degrees celcius last night in Toronto, so we're really looking forward
to the trip to California tomorrow!!! :-)
Here's the info that I have for the tournament:
1997 Winter Nationals
Coast to Coach Arena
Huntington Beach, CA
The following four teams will compete in the women's division
at the 1997 Winter Nationals:
Femme Fatale, California?
San Diego Riptide
Team Nike
Toronto Tornado
Sat Feb 29:
7:00 am Toronto Tornado -vs- Team Nike
10:00 am Toronto Tornado -vs- Femme Fatale
9:55 pm Toronto Tornado -vs- San Diego Riptide
Sun Feb 30:
12:30 pm Gold Medal Game (1st -vs- 2nd in round robin)
I'll post the results when I return.
Andria
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 17:32:00 EST
From: "Deathe, Barbara - DC"
To: Women-in-Hockey
Subject: MAWHL Playoffs
Message-ID:
The Chesapeake Bay Lightning will be hosting the Mid-Atlantic Women's Hockey
League Playoffs this year in our beautiful new rink the Laurel Ice Gardens.
We are putting together a playoff program that will feature the four teams
in the playoffs as well as the rest of the teams in the league. We are
selling ad space in the program and invite anyone who loves hockey to take
out an ad.
Ads are being accepted for placement in the program at the following rates:
1/4 page $15.00
1/2 page $25.00
Full Page $50.00
Ads must be photo-copy ready and must be received by March 8 at the latest.
Checks should be made payable to CWIHC and mailed to: Mary Wood, 6005
Cherrywood Ct. #104, Greenbelt, MD 20770.
We appreciate any support we can get!!
The playoffs will be held March 15 and 16.
Barbara Deathe
email@hidden
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