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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 678
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Meaghan Sittler
by email@hidden
2) Article in Phila. paper
by dlau
3) Re: "Women's Hockey Magazine" Ice Hockey Tournament
by email@hidden
4) Re: Women's Hockey Mag
by email@hidden
5) Re: Women's Hockey Mag
by "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
6) Re: Article in Phila. paper
by Chuq Von Rospach
7) Re: Article in Phila. paper
by dlau
8) Girl's Dress Code on The Road
by Tina JW Danzig
9) Re: Girl's Dress Code on The Road
by "Don Howell"
10) Re: Girl's Dress Code on The Road
by email@hidden
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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 13:39:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Meaghan Sittler
Message-ID:
Then Meaghan must be Ryan's sister. Ryan Sittler was drafted in the first
round mainly on the strength of his name and has been one of the major
disappointments of the last few years (partly due to injury, and partly due
to hype - it's like Washington farm hand Sasha Kharlamov, who was expected to
be a star because of his father and has never done much). I wonder if this
is one of those families where the really talented hockey player will turn
out to be the girl? :)
Lisa Evans
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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 14:17:18 -0500
From: dlau
To: email@hidden
Subject: Article in Phila. paper
Message-ID:
This article appeared on the front page of The Philadelphia Inquirer
Friday, August 29. The URL is
"Think hockey is for men only? If so, you're on thin ice"
-Bob Ford, Inquirer staff writer, Lake Placid, NY.
The toughest hockey games Cammi Granato played were never on the
ice, but on the concrete floor of the basement in her suburban Chicago
home.
"Hockey was our life growing up," Granato said. "To the four of
us who were about the same age, three older brothers and myself, it
was this obsession. Everything was hockey."
Every school composition was about hockey. Every moment at the
dinner table was spent shooting pennies back and forth. Every pair
of jeans was torn at the knees from living-room games played with a
rolled-up sock.
But in the basement, hockey wasn't a game.
"My oldest brother, Tony, and I were always on the same team,"
said Granato, whose former basement linemate now plays for the NHL's
San Jose Sharks. "It was rough. We checked full-out. If someone
wanted to fight, we would let it go. It was intense."
Granato, 26, still plays hockey and still plays it intensely,
but the stakes are even higher than family pride now. This week in
Lake Placid, along with 24 other women, Granato was named to the first
U.S. Olympics women's hockey team.
A women's tournament has been added for the 1998 Winter Olympics,
which will begin in February in Nagano, Japan. Curling and
snowboarding also have been added as medal sports.
Watching Granato on the ice with a U.S.A. jersey, you see that
this is the payoff for her lifelong obsession and the reward for
enduring those basement games, one of which ended when brother Robby,
now a junior-hockey coach, bloodied his sister's nose with a punch.
"I went right back at him," Granato said.
Most of the women on the team have stories similar to Granato's,
although not necessarily as violent. Each stuck with a game that
captivated her, often even though she was the only girl on the team.
"I was the only girl ever," said defenseman Chris Bailey, 25,
who began playing at age 5 in Skaneateles, near Syracuse. "It wasn't
really coed. It was all boys and me. But we were all so young, no
one even noticed."
When Lisa Brown-Miller's mother would yell, "Go, Lisa," at her
games in Union Lake, Mich, other parents would turn to each other and
say: "There's a Lisa down there?"
"Everyone here has been through a situation where they had to
prove themselves," said Brown-Miller, 30, the oldest player named to
the national team and its only married player. "At one time or other,
every woman on this team had to show there's a good reason why she's
on the ice."
Of all the sports played by women who took advantage of the fast
track of new opportunities in the last 20 years, hockey has taken some
of the slowest strides, like a weighted-down goalkeeper plowing across
the ice. Rinks are expensive to build or rent, and equipment costs
are among the highest in any sport.
There is still no NCAA championship for a sport played by just
12 colleges and universities at the Division I level. And U.S.
women's teams have been selected for international competitions only
since 1990.
But the pace of growth is picking up quickly, and the Olympics
certainly won't slow it down. The Lifetime cable network announced
this week that it had reached a sponsorship agreement to promote the
national team and to televise its Dec. 17 match against Canada.
According to USA Hockey, the national governing body for both the
men's and women's game, 23,010 women are playing organized ice hockey
at all levels in the United States, compared with 5,573 in 1990.
"Sometimes it's discouraging, because you devote your life to
something and then you meet people all the time who have no idea that
women play hockey," said Granato, a multisport star in high school who
chose a hockey scholarship to Providence College over a soccer
scholarship in Wisconsin. "But people are now opening their eyes.
It's like a lot of ther stereotypes that are being broken by women in
other sports.
"I think the Olympics will increase the awareness about women's
hockey to an incredible scale. You'll see growth at the grassroots
level and more support at the college level. It won't happen
overnight, but I think women's hockey will be at the point in the next
10, 15 years where women's basketball is today."
There is optimistic talk of establishing a professional league
and enough collegiate programs to support an NCAA tournament to
replace the Eastern College Athletic Conference tournament, which
serves as a national championship now.
Much of the optimism hinges on the exposure that will come from
the six-team Olympic tournament, which will also include Finland,
Sweden, Japan, China and Canada, the perennial world champion. The
women look at the gains made by their soccer, softball and basketball
counterparts and hope for the same.
The game is nearly identical to men's hockey, with the exception
that body checking isn't allowed. Even so, it is a very physical game
involving collisions going for the puck and use of the body to help
take the puck away from an opponent. But there is more emphasis on
finesse, skating and precision passing.
"What the no-checking rule means is that if I see someone at
mid-ice with their head down, I can't send them back to their own
end," Bailey said. "Anywhere along the boards, you can play the body
as long as it is stick to stick or shoulder to shoulder, as long as
you're not taking three steps and running at them, like sometimes you
want to."
As two teams from the 54-player camp of Olympic hopefuls played a
final, impassioned scrimmage this week at the Olympic Center rink in
Lake Placid, site of the U.S. men's 1980 Olympic triumph, it was
impossible to tell from the stands that the players were women.
When Bailey followed up a slapshot from inside the blue line and
came to an ice-spraying stop just before plowing into goalie Sara
DeCosta, it was just hockey. And when Granato stick-handled through
a flock of flailing opponents, it was breathtaking.
"I didn't know what to expect," said U.S. coach Ben Smith, who,
in more than 20 years of coaching, had never worked with a women's
team before taking the job in 1995. "I was afraid the discrepancies
between the two games might be too large, but I was surprised and
impressed. Almost right away, I wasn't thinking, 'I'm watching women's
hockey.' I was just watching hockey."
If Smith needed a quick course in the dedication of his team, he
got it in the first week of his first training camp.
"We invited 40 players to come in to an August camp that started
on a Saturday," he said. "And I was told that everyone would be there,
except one player who would be a day late because she was getting
married the day the camp started. I couldn't believe it. I just said:
'I can't wait to see this kid.'"
Brown-Miller, who was coaching at Princeton at the time -- a job
she had to give up this year to devote herself full-time to training --
skipped her own honeymoon, and she has spent both of her anniversaries
as well in camp with the U.S. team. "I'll be 31 when this happens, and
it's my only chance to be in the Olympics," said Brown-Miller, a
forward used primarily for penalty-killing. "My husband is all for
this, and I've got the rest of my life to work and have a career. This
is once in a life."
The U.S. team has never beaten Canada in a major competition, but
the two teams are more evenly matched than that would suggest. When
they last met, it was in the gold-medal game of this year's world
championships in Kitchener, Ontario, with Canada winning, 4-3, in
overtime.
"We know we can play with them," Granato said. "They used to
embarrass us, but it's not like that anymore. The gold medal in the
Olympics is definitely up for grabs."
Granato looked around at her Olympic teammates and had to smile.
It had taken a while, but her sport was finally coming out of the
basement.
(end)
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It was nice to see this article on the front page of a major daily.
I could have done without the emphasis on roughness (e.g. the young
Granatos getting into a bloody fight), and the marital-status report
of the entire team; however overall I'm glad that women's hockey is
finally getting the coverage it deserves.
Dian
#30 Philadelphia Freeze "B"
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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 14:56:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: "Women's Hockey Magazine" Ice Hockey Tournament
Message-ID:
Thanks Gary and/or Debi
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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 15:02:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Women's Hockey Mag
Message-ID:
Thanks Kellie I appreciate the info and will call as soon as I get the chance
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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 17:15:38 -0700
From: "Phil & Debbie Cottrell"
To:
Subject: Re: Women's Hockey Mag
Message-ID:
Hi List:
No offence intended, but is it really necessary to have these obviously
private, one line messages between people posted to the list? Don't be lazy
and just click on Reply, type in the person's e-mail account.
Phil Cottrell
From: email@hidden
> To: Subscribers to
> Subject: Re: Women's Hockey Mag
> Date: August 30, 1997 12:04 PM
>
> Thanks Kellie I appreciate the info and will call as soon as I get the
chance
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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 21:12:18 -0700
From: Chuq Von Rospach
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Article in Phila. paper
Message-ID:
Looks like it's time for a reminder.
* Do not post copyrighted material. It's illegal to type in an
article verbatim, or re-post one from an on-line service like Clarinet,
ESPNet or any of the on-line newspapers. Check out their sites -- if
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few do. (Yes, we know it happens all over the net. That doesn't make it
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the copyright holder decides to sue. Instead, post the URL to the
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users can look up the article themselves. If you aren't sure that what
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of this rule will be kicked off of the lists.
At 11:35 AM -0700 8/30/97, dlau wrote:
>This article appeared on the front page of The Philadelphia Inquirer
>Friday, August 29. The URL is
>
>
>"Think hockey is for men only? If so, you're on thin ice"
>-Bob Ford, Inquirer staff writer, Lake Placid, NY.
>
> The toughest hockey games Cammi Granato played were never on the
>ice, but on the concrete floor of the basement in her suburban Chicago
--
Chuq Von Rospach (email@hidden) Apple IS&T Mail List Gnome
Plaidworks Consulting (email@hidden)
( +-+ The home for Hockey on the net)
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 09:37:04 -0500
From: dlau
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Article in Phila. paper
Message-ID:
Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
> Sigh. looks like it's time for a reminder.
> Do not post copyrighted material. It's illegal to type in an
> article verbatim...
Oops... It never occurred to me, as you're right, you see this done
all over the net. First and last time I make that mistake. Sorry
guys.
Dian
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 10:30:20 -0400
From: Tina JW Danzig
To: "INTERNET:email@hidden"
Subject: Girl's Dress Code on The Road
Message-ID:
I was wondering if someone could enlighten me on the dress code for girls
(pee wee age) when they are on the road, playing on a coed team. My
daughter's coach says that my daughter has to wear a tie when she travels.
Is that true? Are there any standards for this?
Thanks for your replys.
Tina (Mother of Jena #14)
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 08:04:15 -0700
From: "Don Howell"
To:
Subject: Re: Girl's Dress Code on The Road
Message-ID:
My daughters have played on boy's teams for 11 yrs and have often ran into
this dilema. Usually they talk to the coach and decide what would be
acceptable for them. They have also had some fun with it and worn my ties
which always got a good laugh from coaches,players and parents.I can't ever
remember there ever being a problem with it.Good luck with her team!
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> From: Tina JW Danzig
> To: Subscribers to
> Subject: Girl's Dress Code on The Road
> Date: Sunday, August 31, 1997 7:31 AM
>
> I was wondering if someone could enlighten me on the dress code for girls
> (pee wee age) when they are on the road, playing on a coed team. My
> daughter's coach says that my daughter has to wear a tie when she
travels.
> Is that true? Are there any standards for this?
>
> Thanks for your replys.
>
> Tina (Mother of Jena #14)
> .-
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 12:44:32 -0400
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Girl's Dress Code on The Road
Message-ID:
In my freshman year of high school, I played on an all boys team. Since I was
the only girl on the team, my coach just treated me like one of the guys. I
was told to wear a shirt, tie and khakis to all the games. I was a little
bewildered at first; I always wore mini-skirts to school and everything. But I
decided to just go along with it, and wear what all the guys were wearing. My
teammates loved it, and I ended up getting all the attention from my friends;
as it was obvious that I was the only female on the team.
So, anyway. I mostly dressed like the guys for fun, because the coach wasn't
too strict with me. But if you really have a problem with the dress code, you
should talk to the coach. I just don't quite see what the big deal is...the
coach merely wants the entire team to look both clean and uniform.
-Avril #1
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