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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 672
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Admin: How to get off of, get help for WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY
by The List Mom
2) Re: Bag Boy
by email@hidden
3) RE: Bag Boy
by CMSI
4) Re: Bag Boy
by email@hidden
5) Re: How Can I Get Off This
by email@hidden
6) girls team vs boys which has priority??
by Judi Stevens
7) Re: Bag Boy
by email@hidden
8) alt.sport.icehockey.women
by "Kenneth R. Veze"
9) Re: Bag Boy
by "the.edge"
10) Re: alt.sport.icehockey.women
by Chuq Von Rospach
11) Re: question National Festival Ages
by email@hidden
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 01:00:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: The List Mom
To: email@hidden
Subject: Admin: How to get off of, get help for WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY
Message-ID:
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 07:55:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Bag Boy
Message-ID:
I've never had anything similar happen to me, but my husband *is* supportive
of me, to the point of bemusing a workman. Let me explain.
When I married, I kept my name. This is fairly common in Massachusetts, and
we've never had any problems over the last eleven years. Right after we were
married, we had to have the drain cleaned in our apartment, and Bob got off
early from work to be present and pay the workman.
The plumber's helper was young, around 20, and he and Bob fell to chatting
about women. Bob mentioned that he was newly married and liked it fine, and
the guy agreed that marriage was a good thing.
When he was done, Bob wrote out a check to the plumbing company and handed it
to the guy. The guy read it over, double taked, and said, "I thought you
were married."
"Yes, I am."
"But your wife - she has a different last name!"
"Yes, she does. She kept her name when we got married - it's easier, since
she didn't have to spend all that time and money changing her license and
credit cards. Besides, *I* didn't have to change my name, so why should she
change yours?"
Stunned silence. "You mean you LET her keep her name????"
Bob, amused, finished the conversation with, "Actually, I woudn't LET her
take mine!"
Result: one bewildered plumber who might have had his paradigms shifted a
bit, and one very satisfied Bob, who still finds this incident hilarious.
He's a good one, even if the Dorito bags do drive me crazy from time to
time....:)
Lisa Evans
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 09:43:05 -0400
From: CMSI
To: "'email@hidden'"
Subject: RE: Bag Boy
Message-ID:
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Its nor normal for wives or girlfriends to come into the locker room, =
wipe their significant other's skates, and carry out their =
husbands/boyfriends bags, and if one did I'm sure that the same type of =
kidding would go on as well -- I don't see anything out of the normal in =
your situation. =20
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From: Phil & Debbie Cottrell[SMTP:email@hidden]
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 1997 10:53 PM
To: Subscribers to
Subject: Bag Boy
Just an amusing little story about a supportive husband...Wanted to know =
if
anyone else has had a similar thing happen : )
I had just come off the ice Saturday night after two hours of pick-up
hockey...I was tired and dizzy (from an inner ear problem). My husband,
who doesn't play, had been watching the last part of the game, and when =
I
left the ice he came to the dressing room to let me know he was there.=20
Phil is very supportive of my playing hockey, and he likes to help me =
out
(I just started playing this year and sometimes I need all the extra =
help I
can get). : ) I started taking off my gear and tossing it in his
direction...He wiped my skate blades and packed my equipment into my =
bag.=20
I said good night to the guys still in the room, picked up my stick and
followed my husband (who was carrying the bag) out of the room. Two of =
my
team mates were in the corridor. Rob smiled at my husband and called =
him
"Bag Boy", and Christine asked where she could get one. I suggested =
that
everyone needed one. It was done in jest...This is the way we =
communicate
with one another (our rule on the ice is that you can only be cruel to =
your
nearest and dearest - this includes name calling, checking, and
harrassment). I think Phil was a little put off by all of this. He =
felt
it was a bit demeaning...after all it's just a pick up game among =
friends,
nothing competitive at all, so why not have someone who comes to pick =
you
up hang out in the dressing room and keep busy by gathering gear while
chating with everyone else? Has anyone else had any similar stories of
supposed role reversal where people aren't as accepting as they could =
be?
Debbie Cottrell
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 10:37:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Bag Boy
Message-ID:
In a message dated 97-08-25 04:43:16 EDT, you write:
<< My husband,
who doesn't play, had been watching the last part of the game, and when I
left the ice he came to the dressing room to let me know he was there. >>
My husband is the exact same way, very, very supportive. My husband is just
about the biggest fan of hockey I have ever met, be it his beloved "Rangers"
the IHL "Cincinnati Cyclones" , College Hockey or whatever Hockey he can take
in. I play for two men's teams and my husband hardly misses a game. He is a
great student of the game so I can always count on him to critique my game
whether I like it or not! Like Saturday night, I was still laying in bed
about an hour and a half before game time, had no desire to play whatsoever
(totally burned out), but went ahead and played about my most uninspiring
game of the season. Between the 2nd and 3rd period I told myself, "You have
played so bad and hustled so little that they only way you could possibly
redeem yourself is by scoring a goal." Which is exactly what I did. I
thought my Hubby would only dwell on the positive - the goal, but I was
wrong. After the game I was greeted with, "What did you do, figure you had
to get a goal to make up for the clueless way you played all game?" OOps!
He's got my number!
A funny incident happened last weekend when one of my teams was playing a
particularly nasty team that we always have problems with. The R.D. who I
was covering is a 6'3" Neandrathal with a really, really bad attitude and is
nothing but a Hacker. Anyway , me and him were going at it all night, I'm
only 4'11" 98lbs, and at one point he really came after me and after checking
the beejeebies out of me (if that wasn't bad enough), he swung his stick at
me and managed to knock my stick out of my hand sending it flying about 15
feet! At this point , my Husband jumps out in the stands and yells, "Hey!
Cromagnum Man, Why don't you pick on somebody your own size!" And the
Neandrathal yells the usually "F^%$k you!" To which Hubby replies , "I bet
you'd like too!" My husband yells for my other team mates also, not just me
and everyone likes and respects him. Heck he has a business relationship and
Friendship with one of my team captains and usually knows more about what is
going on with my team than I do!
I have to side with your hubby on this one, I would be put off by that
comment. I'm sure the friends meant no harm, but it sure woudln't be
something I would ever say to anyone in a similar situation. Sounds like you
got a good man there!
Jackie - #22 - She Shooooooooots, She Scoooooooooores !!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 11:11:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: How Can I Get Off This
Message-ID:
Some please tell me how to get off this list.
I was put on it by accident.
Donna
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 09:06:53 -0700
From: Judi Stevens
To: email@hidden
Subject: girls team vs boys which has priority??
Message-ID:
Up until this year, if you played on a boy's team, and a girls team. The
girls team had priority. Meaning that you would not be penalized for
missing the boys games to play with the girls. This was put in effect (I
do not know if it is in writing) because the girls team is CAHA (state) and
the boys team is SCAHA (regional?). Yes, I am talking about California,
and I would like to keep this on the following questions, thank you.
I have heard through the grapevine that this is going to change. The boys
teams are saying that it is double dipping, having the best of both. I was
wondering if this is happening or happened anywhere else? Also, what your
thoughts are?? The logic is: the girls have to do tournaments, because
there are not enough girls teams locally to play.
--
Thank you,
Judi Stevens
MITS-CSD Help Desk
phone: 619/618-3921
fax: 619/618-1460
E-Mail: email@hidden
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 12:17:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Bag Boy
Message-ID:
I too, have a very supportive live-in-boyfriend/husband. We are not married
yet (will be this coming June), but we have lived together for 5 years and my
6 year old son considers him his father. My future hubby, Jay, intoduce
hockey to me and my son the very first time we met and since then it has been
I very big part of our lives. I began playing this year and he has been very
supportive of me. Especially during the times I want to quit because I feel
like haven't progressed enough in my skills. Actually his very supportive of
all aspects of my life so, I consider myself very lucky.
However, he completely resents it when he's called "Mr. Bordy", my last name.
I kept my married name because of my son. So, the innocent telemarketer
that calls and refers to him as "Mr. Bordy", because the phone is in my name,
gets a butt chewing like he's never had.
As a female, I understand the mistake by the telemarketer and I would have
blown it off. But, we must understand the male side of things. The majority
of middle-aged men have been raised with old-fashioned beliefs, so the good
men are changing these out-dated beliefs. But they are still trying to
figure out what their role is in this new world. These poor guys are so
confused right now!
Today's women must be understanding of our good men who seemly go off the
handle as something as silly as "Bag Boy" or "Mr. Bordy". All they want is
to preserve their own identity.
That's my take on this issue!
Regina
"She skates, she falls....it must be Regina on the ice!"
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 16:04:44 -0400
From: "Kenneth R. Veze"
To: email@hidden
Subject: alt.sport.icehockey.women
Message-ID:
The newgroup has been created. alt.sport.icehockey.women is up and running.
Anyone know if it's possible to send a remove group message to have the
other group removed from Usenet??
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 18:08:20 -0400
From: "the.edge"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Bag Boy
Message-ID:
I'm enjoying this thread. All of you that have supportive men are very
fortunate. I'm a single mom. I never watched a hockey game in my life
until my son started playing. Hockey has been my life ever since.
I took the opportunity to go back to college in the winter of 1995. I
chose to go to Clarkson for many reasons, one of which was hockey. I knew
my son would get plenty of ice time in Potsdam, NY (20 miles from Canada)
and I had hoped I would get a chance to play hockey. It took a lot of
work, but I was finally able to play.
One of the things I did was set up a game between my son's team and my own.
The kids loved trying to beat up Dan's mom (my knee is still bruised). I
served as president of the club team in its first year and Dan was always
there to help sell t-shirts at the men's games and participate in
everything the club did. He even bought Clarkson Women's Hockey shirts with
his own money.
Now we play pick-up hockey together. I'm usually the only woman playing.
I come out of the locker room with my helmet on, and I'm not petite, so I
don't think everyone is aware that I am a woman at first. Last Saturday,
Dan was getting off the ice while I was sitting on the bench and he
addressed me as "Mom". Everyone turned to look at me. I don't think they
get many mothers there.
Dan is almost a teenager and God forbid if he lets me know that he approves
of anything I do, but hockey has been the tie that binds us. In these
times, all parents, not just the single ones, need that. It also gives him
a chance to tell me when I'm doing something wrong:-)
Abby Clabough
email@hidden
email@hidden
http://people.clarkson.edu/~clabouas/
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:22:49 -0700
From: Chuq Von Rospach
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: alt.sport.icehockey.women
Message-ID:
This is usenet. You can do anything you want. Doesn't mean anyone will
pay attention. Especially in alt.*.
Personally, I think this is a mistake. When the first luddites move in
to prove that women shouldn't be playing hockey, how do you plan on
stopping them?
chuq
At 1:07 PM -0700 8/25/97, Kenneth R. Veze wrote:
>The newgroup has been created. alt.sport.icehockey.women is up and running.
>Anyone know if it's possible to send a remove group message to have the
>other group removed from Usenet??
--
Chuq Von Rospach (email@hidden) Apple IS&T Mail List Gnome
Plaidworks Consulting (email@hidden)
( +-+ The home for Hockey on the net)
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:41:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: question National Festival Ages
Message-ID:
The youngest players were born in 1981
Nicole Uliasz 7-15-81
Kristen Wendell 9-12-81
Bethany Peterson 12-15-81
Tara Mounsy 3-12-78
The Oldest:
Kathy Cordes 5-15-64
I went over and saw some of the games this weekend...they have a brutal
schedule, and the players are definitely trying hard for one of the 24
openings. It was some good hockey to watch. The Red team definitely looked
the strongest on Sat & Sun.
Michelle
Hockeychck
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