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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 372
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re[2]: Narrow Skates
by "Mary Owen"
2) Re: Re[2]: Narrow Skates
by email@hidden (Patti Jankun)
3) Re: Not related to the Three Nations Tournament thread
by Andria Hunter
4) Skate Support
by email@hidden (Ellice F Seiden-Martinez)
5) Re: Skate Support
by "Abigail S. Clabough"
6) Nov. 6 issue of Go, girl! Mag
by melissa
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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 96 14:21:56 CST
From: "Mary Owen"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re[2]: Narrow Skates
Message-ID:
I had the very same problem with Bauers when I first started playing.
Everything seemed to fit except for the rubbing in the heel. They eventually
gave me a bone spur on my right heel that one day I'll need to get removed.
The man I was seeing at the time swore by Tacks and after much suffering I went
out and bought some 652's and I love them. I skate barefoot and they feel like
pillows...stiff pillows but pillows none the less.
Mary Owen
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Subject: Re:Narrow Skates
Author: email@hidden at INTERNET
Date: 11/7/96 2:21 PM
>I bought a pair of size 5 Bauer 4000 skates this summer because they are
>supposed to be narrower. Although I don't wear narrow women's shoes, the
>boys' skates all seem to be too wide. The Bauers seemed fairly comfortable
>as the gel was molding to my ankle bones, but after two or three sessions,
>the skates got progressively more painful. I decided I couldn't wear them
>after about six times.
>
>It seems that my ankle bones protrude more than the design allows for, and
>my ankles worked through all the gel and were rubbing against the very stiff
>leather. I've actually bruised the bone on my right ankle, so I guess I'll
>go back to Tacks...
>
>I'm hoping I can find someone to buy these almost brand new skates!
>
>Jan.
Actually, I had the same exact problem with Bauer Comps but I experimented a
little and found that if I took my socks off and skated bare-footed, the
pain went away. This idea lends itself to extremelly smelly skates but it
works for me! My boyfriend also had the same problem so he opted to wearing
very thin socks. I think this worked okay for him. Hope this helps...
Jen
University of Illinois
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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 02:53:54 -0500
From: email@hidden (Patti Jankun)
To: email@hidden
Cc: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Narrow Skates
Message-ID:
I thought I'd jump in on this narrow skate issue, I have narrow foot
with a high instep and I'll
agree with Mary in favoring Tacks. My first pair of skates were Baur
Jr Supreme's and I could
never get them tight enough. I 've been wearing tacks since. I recently
bought a pair of the 652 and
love them, takes no time to break in. I tried on the new Bauers and
they were too wide, or I was
in between sizes, if it's not broke, don't fix it:)))
>
>The man I was seeing at the time swore by Tacks and after much
suffering I went
>out and bought some 652's and I love them. I skate barefoot and they
feel like
>pillows...stiff pillows but pillows none the less.
>Mary Owen
Chris writes:
Could anyone recommend a skate that would be high in the instep, and
would have
enough support for my poor dying ankles?
Try the Tacks, but when you get a new pair get a pair that has the
Composite blade or a blade that can be replaced. Some skates
you have to replace the entire holder&blade, and if you wear Junior
skates like myself it's not much more to get new skates! I
replace the blade every 2 years so I've been buying new skates but now
I can just replace the blade.
Good LUck
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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:11:35 -0500
From: Andria Hunter
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Not related to the Three Nations Tournament thread
Message-ID:
>I played Little League Baseball instead. And I quickly learned how not
>to "throw like a girl." (Thanks, Dad!) Although girls can play
>football in high school, they can't play baseball if there is a "girl's
>version" of the sport, and they consider softball to be the equivalent
>(with sliding, etc.).
I prefer to think of it as "to throw properly" instead of "not to
throw like a girl." By constantly associating the phrase "throwing
like a girl" with improper throwing technique, we reinforce the
idea that girls are inferior athletes. That's can that ancient
expression!
Incidentally, someone was telling me about a study where they did a
throwing comparison between girls and boys, by studying throws made
from their non-dominant arm. The boys and girls threw equally well
from their non-dominant arm; this seems to indicate that training
rather than gender is the limiting factor. We already knew that
though, eh! :-)
Andria
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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:01:09 -0400
From: email@hidden (Ellice F Seiden-Martinez)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Skate Support
Message-ID:
Hi all,
Been reading these various 'plaints with interest. I have only been
playing for 4-5 months - but geting addicted meant skating all the time. I
& as friend started with Mega55 - which were okay to find out we were
addicted, but clearly not supportive enough for 10+ hours a week. I started
having the ankle bone raw rub, etc.
Point is I have Riedell A-1100 skates - brand new, top-o-the-line.
The gel packs are awesome. Reason for the less common Riedells vs Bauers,
Tacks are several, including the company cooperation.
I have a pin in my left ankle (not a hockey injury) and also wear 2 sizes
- as in needed 3.5 L & 5 R in Tacks. I checked out skates around town, then
went to the skate store which specialized in custom work - seems that most
of the serious figure skaters go there, as well as hockey players. After a
lot of work fitting, the managers called CCM to try & order a split pair of
652s. What a headache - by the time CCM agreed to this (normally a $60-$75
charge) the cost was to pay full senior price for junior sizes, plus the
split charge plus the blades are different - they change at size 4 - so
another charge & they didn't want to do it. The Store manager, along with 2
of the hockey playing mangemt said - YOU NEED RIEDELLS - . I got measured,
photo'd, etc. This was late July - I begged (believe me, I was suffering
learning & slipping in 1 skate) & Riedell agreed to 3-4 week delivery - not
10. I was told I would get min model #500. Well, i got the top new skate
model, no extra charge - the bootmakers called and talked to my skate guy
to confirm my situation -and on time.
The Riedells were, are very stiff skates. But they are quite light
- my coach ahs the COMPs and he was amazed at how light these similarly
stiff skates were. The extra supports (heel-instep pull, achilles cover)
are graphite woven fabric, and the gel packs are quite thick. However, they
are hard like rocks at first, and have to warm to flow. Once they have set
to your shape, they're great. So the first couple of weeks I spent a lot
of time getting on & off the ice to loosen, re-kick back, re-tie my skates.
But even with the pin which tends to slightly protrude at some thin ankle
skin, I have had no problem. BTW, I too skate barefoot - just use dome
absorbing non-talc anti-bac powder in them periodically. And I do have a
high arch so am amazed with the comfort & stability of the skates
-unfortunately, no brakes :) I have seen some guys with these skates,
recently - they are available just off the shelf. And also know some women
with extremely narrow feet, or heels, that have Riedells some custom, some
off the shelf.
So, in a nutshell, if you have some problem that causes difficulty
with a standard fit, consider a custom fit. Even if you just are finding
the gel too thin in the Bauers, these Riedell upper models are quite
supportive, but I think have more or deeper gel, and are definitely a bit
lighter weight-wise. And I have to say at least the company has been
helpful & cooperative.
Good luck to all with the skate crisis. Good skates are everything.
ellice
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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:48:03 -0500 (EST)
From: "Abigail S. Clabough"
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Skate Support
Message-ID:
All of this discussion about skates would probably be very interesting for
the manufacturers. Has anyone kept copies of all these messages? Bauer,
CCM, and Nike would love to have this information. We could actually do
something about ill-fitting skates!
Abby Clabough
The Clarkson Edge - Women's Hockey
email@hidden
http://www.clarkson.edu/~clabouas/cwhc.html
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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 96 12:43:00 -0700
From: melissa
Subject: Nov. 6 issue of Go, girl! Mag
Message-ID:
The November 6 issue of Go,girl! magazine is online at
http://www.gogirlmag.com
In this issue:
* Wake up and shake up your cardio routine for more endurance and faster
results with these new workout ideas
* Meet Susan Thomas, a skier with a mission to get more women on the
slopes
* Go nuts over National Peanut Butter Lovers Month, get the scoop on
Olympic snowboarding, and pick up some safety tips for outdoor workouts
in our News section
* Discuss some "weighty" issues with Barbara Hvilivitzky in her column
"In Our Prime"
And be sure to read my column "Inspiration Point" in the Editor's Desk
section -- and learn all about my Las Vegas adventures
All the best,
Melissa Joulwan
Editor, Go,girl! Magazine
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Melissa Joulwan
Step By Step Fitness/Go, girl! Magazine
415-332-4134
http://www.gogirlmag.com
Go,girl! is a bi-weekly magazine dedicated to getting women of all ages
and fitness levels involved in sports.
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