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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 414
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Hockey Schools
by Lynn Witkowski
2) Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
by email@hidden (Don Wright)
3) Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
by Jan de Regt
4) Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
by email@hidden (Lyle Anderson)
5) Re: Hockey Schools
by email@hidden (Milton Holmes)
6) Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
by Gary Goldberg and/or Debbie Minden
7) Re: Hockey Schools
by "Page, Don"
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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:18:02 -0800
From: Lynn Witkowski
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Hockey Schools
Message-ID:
Peter wrote:
>
> I was looking for the best hockey schools in the Quebec-Ontario region. Any
> suggestions?
>
Stephanie Boyd's Girls Hockey School held in Gravenhurts Ontario,
usually the 3rd week of August.
Lynn
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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:23:45 -0500
From: email@hidden (Don Wright)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
Message-ID:
I'd have to say I've seen this coming from mothers-of-sons as well
as fathers-of-sons. It's just a little more surprising coming from
mothers, who presumably used to be girls too!
Don Wright
RI Panthers Girls/Womens Hockey
>Folks: I found the post below interesting. I'd like to hear from the
>women about an important issue referenced in the post. That is the
>phenomenon of women (generally those with sons, as mentioned) who won't
>support women. I have noticed that developing solidarity is an
>important hurdle to get over if women are ever to be given their proper
>place in society, without having to fight for it. You know, getting
>rights because they are due, and not because you had to fight for them
>(dont get me wrong, the battle is worth fighting!).
>Thx, Lyle
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>Subject:
> Date:
> Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:32:04 -0800
> From:
> "jason "
>Reply-To:
> email@hidden
> To:
> Multiple recipients of list
>
>
>My name is Dave Barrett and for many years i have been involved with
>hockey
>as a parent for a few years,
>as a player for many years and as a coach in the boys hockey system. I
>gave
>up playing 4 years ago
>due to a back and neck injury and believe me it's hard to give up a game
>you love i didn't know what
>to do with myself during our long Northern Ont. winters. Even though i
>like
>ice fishing it never filled the
>gap for my love of hockey.Last hockey season 95-96 there was a notice in
>our local paper for a coach
>for a Girls Midget Provincial Hockey Team so i applied for the position
>and
>was surprised when i got
>the position. I still coach the same team this year and love every
>minute
>of it, it more then filled that
>gap and i get more pleasure out of the game. Coaching girls is very
>different then boys because with
>boys you don't have to put up with the" I HAVE CRAMPS " you know the
>female
>thing but the good
>thing is they want to learn, play,improve and unlike boys you can tell
>them
>about the game and how
>it should be played but boys know everything and when you tell them they
>say "I KNOW THAT" sound
>famillar.We play against boys mostly and they are shocked when the girls
>steal the puck from or
>outskate them they get quite upset wieh themselves.There is no body
>checking in our game just
>skating and puck control and boys find it hard to play that kind of game
>but they enjoy it, the people
>that get really upset are the MOTHERS yes the MOTHERS they can't take
>their
>boys getting beat
>by girls and you thought it would be the fathers so did i but i was
>wrong.To all the coaches out there
>keep up the good work our children need you and if you never coached
>girls
>it's time to try it.
>Have a good day
>Dave
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Date: 16 Dec 1996 11:47:49 -0500
From: Jan de Regt
To: email@hidden (Return requested),
Subject: Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
I have a son who skates, and most of the teams he has skated with have
been all boys. However, the parents - both moms and dads - are still
completely capable of behaving extremely 'catty' about the kids on the
team. My son is the goalie, and often bears the brunt of these
remarks, especially when the team isn't doing well.
After some thought on the question, I really don't think it's a
"boy/girl" thing, or a "mother/father" thing - I think that a person's
behavior is a reflection of their personalities, period. Some people
are jerks and teach their kids to be jerks, and some aren't - it's
that simple.
Jan.
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
Author: email@hidden at Internet
Date: 12/13/96 8:10 PM
Folks: I found the post below interesting. I'd like to hear from the
women about an important issue referenced in the post. That is the
phenomenon of women (generally those with sons, as mentioned) who won't
support women. I have noticed that developing solidarity is an
important hurdle to get over if women are ever to be given their proper
place in society, without having to fight for it. You know, getting
rights because they are due, and not because you had to fight for them
(dont get me wrong, the battle is worth fighting!).
Thx, Lyle
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Subject:
Date:
Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:32:04 -0800
From:
"jason "
Reply-To:
email@hidden
To:
Multiple recipients of list
My name is Dave Barrett and for many years i have been involved with
hockey
as a parent for a few years,
as a player for many years and as a coach in the boys hockey system. I
gave
up playing 4 years ago
due to a back and neck injury and believe me it's hard to give up a game
you love i didn't know what
to do with myself during our long Northern Ont. winters. Even though i
like
ice fishing it never filled the
gap for my love of hockey.Last hockey season 95-96 there was a notice in
our local paper for a coach
for a Girls Midget Provincial Hockey Team so i applied for the position
and
was surprised when i got
the position. I still coach the same team this year and love every
minute
of it, it more then filled that
gap and i get more pleasure out of the game. Coaching girls is very
different then boys because with
boys you don't have to put up with the" I HAVE CRAMPS " you know the
female
thing but the good
thing is they want to learn, play,improve and unlike boys you can tell
them
about the game and how
it should be played but boys know everything and when you tell them they
say "I KNOW THAT" sound
famillar.We play against boys mostly and they are shocked when the girls
steal the puck from or
outskate them they get quite upset wieh themselves.There is no body
checking in our game just
skating and puck control and boys find it hard to play that kind of game
but they enjoy it, the people
that get really upset are the MOTHERS yes the MOTHERS they can't take
their
boys getting beat
by girls and you thought it would be the fathers so did i but i was
wrong.To all the coaches out there
keep up the good work our children need you and if you never coached
girls
it's time to try it.
Have a good day
Dave
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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:57:58 -0900
From: email@hidden (Lyle Anderson)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
Message-ID:
Jan de Regt wrote:
>
> I have a son who skates, and most of the teams he has skated with have
> been all boys. However, the parents - both moms and dads - are still
> completely capable of behaving extremely 'catty' about the kids on the
> team. My son is the goalie, and often bears the brunt of these
> remarks, especially when the team isn't doing well.
>
> After some thought on the question, I really don't think it's a
> "boy/girl" thing, or a "mother/father" thing - I think that a person's
> behavior is a reflection of their personalities, period. Some people
> are jerks and teach their kids to be jerks, and some aren't - it's
> that simple.
>
> Jan.
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
> Author: email@hidden at Internet
> Date: 12/13/96 8:10 PM
>
> Folks: I found the post below interesting. I'd like to hear from the
> women about an important issue referenced in the post. That is the
> phenomenon of women (generally those with sons, as mentioned) who won't
> support women. I have noticed that developing solidarity is an
> important hurdle to get over if women are ever to be given their proper
> place in society, without having to fight for it. You know, getting
> rights because they are due, and not because you had to fight for them
> (dont get me wrong, the battle is worth fighting!).
> Thx, Lyle
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan: Interesting! I get a regular opportunity to see that this is
something more than the "jerk" factor. My son's team regularly plays my
daughter's team. A mother of a boy on my son's team is enthusiastically
positive when her son plays other boy teams. She is embarrassingly
nasty when he plays against The Firebirds. Go figure! This woman is
also a tireless volunteer and generally seems (mostly) to have a heart
of gold!
Anyone else have any ideas?
Thx, Lyle
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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:07:47 -0400
From: email@hidden (Milton Holmes)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Hockey Schools
Message-ID:
>I was looking for the best hockey schools in the Quebec-Ontario region. Any
>suggestions?
>
>
>
>Courtney Douglass
>25# Gaspesie Les Iles
New Hampshire is just south of Quebec.... :-)
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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:06:57 -0400
From: Gary Goldberg and/or Debbie Minden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
Message-ID:
> I have a son who skates, and most of the teams he has skated with have
> been all boys. However, the parents - both moms and dads - are still
> completely capable of behaving extremely 'catty' about the kids on the
> team. My son is the goalie, and often bears the brunt of these
> remarks, especially when the team isn't doing well.
>
> After some thought on the question, I really don't think it's a
> "boy/girl" thing, or a "mother/father" thing - I think that a person's
> behavior is a reflection of their personalities, period. Some people
> are jerks and teach their kids to be jerks, and some aren't - it's
> that simple.
>
> Jan.
>
Jan, I think you have hit the nail on the head. I have seen some
disturbing stuff today about kids who use obscene aliases on their jerseys,
cursing the crowd after a game misconduct, etc. I called our scheduler
today with a tournament and he said that they had had such an unpleasant
time because of the behavior of PARENTS that he wouldn't send a team there
again. I think that as parents, coaches and assorted officials we have to
readjust our thinking regarding a game that should be fun and add to the
growth of our kids. We aren't raising little enforcers(I hope), but kids
who are more confident, able to work as a member of a team, and know how to
recognize a good time. Debbie
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:06:17 +0000
From: "Page, Don"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Hockey Schools
Message-ID:
Looking for an outstanding Female hockey camp. MVP Hockey schools have been running out of the University of
Waterloo for the last six years. The camp is a full residential camp and is
run by Margot (Verlaan) Page. Margot is also looking to offer a
number of additional weeks this summer out of Mississauga and a week
out of Belleville, once they can confirm the ice.
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