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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 411
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) RE: On The Edge Book
by "Ashmun, Julia D"
2) Fundraising
by email@hidden (Lyle Anderson)
3) On the Edge
by Megan Williams
4) Re: hockey rot
by email@hidden (Lyle Anderson)
5) Re: On The Edge Book
by email@hidden (Lyle Anderson)
6) Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
by email@hidden (Lyle Anderson)
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 11:12:00 EST
From: "Ashmun, Julia D"
To: women-in-hockey
Subject: RE: On The Edge Book
Message-ID:
Contact Sportsbook Plus 1-800-667-1251 and if that doesn't help email me (I
have a case at my house): email@hidden.
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From: women-in-hockey
To: Subscribers to
Subject: On The Edge Book
Date: Thursday, December 12, 1996 2:37PM
I've been trying to locate this book, "On The Edge: Women Making Hockey
History", here in the Pittsburgh area to no avail. The book was written by
Elizabeth Etue and Megan Williams. Second Story Press of Toronto is the
publisher. All the local bookstores cannot find it in their systems. No
ISBN#, nothing!
Could it be published under a different name here in the states possibly???
If anyone can help please feel free to E mail me.
Thanks!
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:44:06 -0900
From: email@hidden (Lyle Anderson)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Fundraising
Message-ID:
Folks: I mistakenly read the letter (from Lefler), thinking I was
looking at a post from "women-in-hockey." I was annoyed that someone
thought we should further limit female hockey, based on funding. Turns
out that the post was as noted. My feelings, however are the same (at
least on this issue) for male and female youth players! At the bottom
you will find a post from a young man who seems to have his head in the
right spot.
Athletic opportunities have substantial benefits for both genders.
Hockey is a difficult sport for both genders and requires a lot of
practice and spendy gear. Fundraising is an exellent way to offset
these costs. Not only for those that could not otherwise play, but for
the benefit of those who are on the line between participating or having
their kids stay home and watch TV.
Fundraising, when done right can also be a rewarding self-empowerment
tool. As a coach, some of these types of benefits are more important
than winning or actual skill developement. Certainly, making a team
contribution, be it financial or physical, goes a long way towards
preparing children for life's realities as an adult. ie... working and
paying the bills!
Thx
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To:
email@hidden
References:
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Michael Lefler wrote:
>
> At 11:08 AM 12/9/96 -0800, you wrote:
> >Looking for some new and exciting fund raising ideas.
> >
> >I don't want to sell chocolates....it's getting too cold in
> >Southern Ontario for a car wash. Anyone have any
> >neat thoughts!
> >
> >kee!
>
> Here's a novel thought. How about raising the money from within your own
> team. User pay. The whole phenomenon of fundraising for minor hockey has
> gotten to the point of absurdity. Tell the kids to wear clean pants and a
> shirt (no track suits). Go to local tournaments (prices range from 190.00
> to 350.00). If the cost to play hockey is a burden to the parents, then
> your team is away out of bounds.
>
> Let's get some reality back into this sport.
>
> M. Lefler
> Erin, Ontario
Great Idea!!! Except for one small problem... The players most likely
to get the most benefit, probably can't afford to play without
fundraising! Economic factors can have a substantial bearing on a
childs chances of being socially successful. for families that have few
resources, fund raising is an important means of providing
recreational/athletic opportunities that might not ohterwise be
available! More important, forcing (because it is more affordable) a
child to play a sport that they have little interest in, is unlikely to
cause derivative benefit.
Here are some stats, that I feel support the need to fundraise, as they
apply to this forum. Similar statistics are available for the other
three groups (adult male and female, and youth male).
1. If a girl does not participate in sports by the time she is 10,
there is only a 10% chance she will participate when she is 25.
2. As little as two hours a week of exercise may lower a teenage girl's
life long risk of breast cance.
3. Women who are active in sports and recreational activities as girls
feel greater self-confidence, self-esteem and pride in their physical
and social selves than those who were sedentary as children.
4. Girls who participate in sports are 92% LESS likely to get involved
in drugs.
5. Girls who participate in sports are 80% LESS likely to have unwanted
pregnancy.
6. Girls who participate in sports are three times MORE likely to
graduate from high school.
These stats are from information provided as a result of studies done by
the Women's Sports Foundation.
Hope this helps us to keep our focus!
Lyle
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Subject:
Re: Fundraising -Reply
Date:
Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:50:48 -0800
From:
"Peter J. Polson"
Reply-To:
email@hidden
To:
Multiple recipients of list
12/09/96 - M. Lefler wrote;
User pay. The whole phenomenon of fundraising for minor hockey has
gotten to the point of
absurdity. Tell the kids to wear clean pants and a shirt (no track
suits). Go to local tournaments
(prices range from 190.00 to 350.00). If the cost to play hockey is a
burden to the parents, then
your team is away out of bounds. Let's get some reality back into this
sport.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
You're right, and most would agree, the cost of playing hockey is
absurd,,,, even more reason to
fundraise. User pay ? How many kids will this prevent from playing due
to financial reasons ? I can
think of 2 on my team. My players have a dress code,,, however I'm not
sure how that relates to
fundraising and the cost of playing. We go to local tournaments within
1-1/2 hr drive, only one out of
town, each parent pays their own hotel accommodations. I can't find any
$190.00 tournaments,
more in the neighbourhood of $350 - $500. My team's budget is approx
$8000, which isn't out of
bounds. $3000 goes to weekly practice ice, insurance and league
registration. Another $2500 goes
to tournaments. We bought jackets for the team, haven't done that for 3
yrs.,, another $2500 (half
from a sponsor, the players raised the other half doing a skate-athon).
WOW, there goes the budget
!! My parents pay $100 on top of $200 player registration, (some have a
tough time paying that), the
rest we fundraise. It's a nessecity,,, might as well make it fun.
Peter
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Date: 13 Dec 96 16:04:03 EST
From: Megan Williams
To:
Subject: On the Edge
Message-ID:
Hi everyone. For those who are new to the list, or missed this information last
time round, here's where you can order ON THE EDGE by Elizabeth Etue and me. The
response from players and fans has been wonderful - thanks again to all those
who have supported us in writing the book and getting it out there.We hope lots
of fans of the women's game will be getting a book for Christmas - now's the
time to order!
Megan
ON THE EDGE can be found in bookstores across Canada at $18.95 CND and in the US
for $16.96US.
To order a copy for delivery in both Canada and the US, phone 1-800-626-4330 or
1-800-565-9523.
Great discounts are available for bulk orders and for fundraising.
ON THE EDGE: WOMEN MAKING HOCKEY HISTORY written by Elizabeth Etue and Megan
Williams is the first comprehensive, inside look at the world of women's hockey.
The book is packed with the stories and photographs of the world's top players.
Described by Damien Cox in the Toronto Star as "a heavily researched, sweeping
effort and a heavily politicized one that, for examples, questions why the men's
national team receives an estimated five times more funding than the women's
program," ON THE EDGE is also a tribute to the girls and women that play the
game.
Here's a look at the title page and a brief description of each chapter:
1: The Game of Their Lives
A vivid account of the first world championship game between Canada and
the USA in 1990. Meet some of the best hockey players in the world including
Angela James, France St. Louis, Stacy Wilson, Hayley Wickenheiser, Cammi Granato
and Kelly Dyer.
2: Little Sisters and the National Game
If hockey is Canada's national game, why have Canadian women received
such little financial and organizational support from the Canadian Hockey
Association? This chapter takes readers back 100 years to when women first
played hockey and looks at why this female sport that drew thousands of
spectators in the 1930s has taken so long to flourish.
3: Ontario: Vision and Unrest
Ontario has long been the hub of women's hockey in Canada -- and even in
the world -- and the Ontario Women's Hockey Association has been key to the
growth in the game. But it has also made some questionable decisions. Will it
continue to lead the way in the game, or is it time for a new vision?
4: Rising in the West
It's no coincidence that some of the top female players and coaches are
now coming out of Western Canada. The legacy of the Edmonton Chimos --
undefeated for almost two decades -- is just one of the reasons for the recent
emergence of talented women.
5: Quebec and Atlantic Canada: Passion and Survival
Quebecoise women tackle the game with a passion that has swept them to
the forefront of the game in Canada. Read about players like France St. Louis --
and Stacy Wilson in the Maritimes -- and what gives players in Eastern Canada
their unique drive.
6: Putting on the Heat: Equity on Ice
Female hockey has survived since the turn of the century with virtually
no help from supporters of the male game. Poor ice time, harassment, and lack of
media and sponsorship are just some of the obstacles the players have had to
overcome. But overcome is what they are doing. The pressure is now on those
whose attitudes towards female players lie frozen in the past. Read about the
people who are pushing the game forward, refusing to let old stereotypes keep
them off the ice.
7: Media, Manon & Hockey Inc.
Has the media helped or hurt the women's game by focussing so much on
Manon Rheaume? Why aren't more women's game on TSN? And why has sponsorship of
women's hockey proven so hard to secure? These are just a few of the questions
asked in this critical look at the coverage of female players in the media.
8: Team Canada: Neglected Heroes
A behind the scenes' look at the rise of the best women's team in the
world.
9: The Road to Nagano
Curious about how women in other countries train? For the first time
ever, here's an inside look at the programs and top players in the USA, Finland,
Norway, Russia, Japan and China. A must-read Olympic primer.
10: Future Considerations
Who will lead women's hockey into the 21st century?
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:33:52 -0900
From: email@hidden (Lyle Anderson)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: hockey rot
Message-ID:
Anne K. Ritchie wrote:
>
> Jan de Regt wrote:
> >
> > I was thinking about this more, and realized one difference in keeping
> > my equipment that developed recently. I *always* air out all my
> > equipment when I get home, and wash it several times a year. I put
>
> I use one of those hockey trees with pegs for all of your gear. "Hockey
> Man" stinks to high heaven when all of my gear hangs on him, but the
> stuff is dry by the time it goes back into my bag. Plus, it makes it
> easy to spray it all down with some anti-stink stuff. I use some sort of
> natural deoderizor stuff and Lysol. The natural stuff lasts longer, but
> the Lysol has a more immediate impact. When playing ice, I wear
> something between my pads and me to keep them from getting too gross,
> usually a thin pair of sweats or some old workout pants. For inline,
> it's pads on bare skin. A friend always wears long underwear (what else
> are you gonna do with it down here?) under her gear when playing ice.
>
> As for what to wear under that, if cotton doesn't keep you dry enough,
> try coolmax stuff. You can find coolmax t-shirts in bicycle catalogs.
> Most sports bras are made with it, too.
>
> About me: 31, 5' 11", 190 or so, lawyer, native Texan. Played inline 16
> months, ice 4 months. Both rule.
>
> My gear: Skates: Tacks for ice and Missions for inline. Shin pads: CCMs
> with some really breathable padding on the inside. Shorts: Kohos.
> Shoulder pads: Bauer Flak. Elbows: Jofas with pointy elbow pieces and
> overstretched elastic. Helmet: Cooper w/ face cage. Sticks: all sorts,
> including a Branches and a couple of types of Kohos (I'm liking the
> Branches a lot right now). Position: anywhere they'll let me play.
> Reason for lurking so long: Too damn busy to think.
>
> Later
> --
> Anne K. Ritchie Houstonian. Texan. American. Netizen.
> My opinions are my own . . .
> and I'll share them if I damn well want to.
> http://starbase.neosoft.com/~aritchie/
speaking of hockey trees... up here in Alaska, we make great trees from
those broken sticks that always seem to be filling the trash cans....
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:42:34 -0900
From: email@hidden (Lyle Anderson)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: On The Edge Book
Message-ID:
Ashmun, Julia D wrote:
>
> Contact Sportsbook Plus 1-800-667-1251 and if that doesn't help email me (I
> have a case at my house): email@hidden.
> ----------
Julia, how much and where do I send the money! Yes I know I can
probably get one at Borders or Sportsbook, but, I'd rather send my money
to someone that obviously supports Women's hockey!
Thx, Lyle
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:57:06 -0900
From: email@hidden (Lyle Anderson)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Mothers of Sons vs. Mothers of daughters!
Message-ID:
Folks: I found the post below interesting. I'd like to hear from the
women about an important issue referenced in the post. That is the
phenomenon of women (generally those with sons, as mentioned) who won't
support women. I have noticed that developing solidarity is an
important hurdle to get over if women are ever to be given their proper
place in society, without having to fight for it. You know, getting
rights because they are due, and not because you had to fight for them
(dont get me wrong, the battle is worth fighting!).
Thx, Lyle
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Subject:
Date:
Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:32:04 -0800
From:
"jason "
Reply-To:
email@hidden
To:
Multiple recipients of list
My name is Dave Barrett and for many years i have been involved with
hockey
as a parent for a few years,
as a player for many years and as a coach in the boys hockey system. I
gave
up playing 4 years ago
due to a back and neck injury and believe me it's hard to give up a game
you love i didn't know what
to do with myself during our long Northern Ont. winters. Even though i
like
ice fishing it never filled the
gap for my love of hockey.Last hockey season 95-96 there was a notice in
our local paper for a coach
for a Girls Midget Provincial Hockey Team so i applied for the position
and
was surprised when i got
the position. I still coach the same team this year and love every
minute
of it, it more then filled that
gap and i get more pleasure out of the game. Coaching girls is very
different then boys because with
boys you don't have to put up with the" I HAVE CRAMPS " you know the
female
thing but the good
thing is they want to learn, play,improve and unlike boys you can tell
them
about the game and how
it should be played but boys know everything and when you tell them they
say "I KNOW THAT" sound
famillar.We play against boys mostly and they are shocked when the girls
steal the puck from or
outskate them they get quite upset wieh themselves.There is no body
checking in our game just
skating and puck control and boys find it hard to play that kind of game
but they enjoy it, the people
that get really upset are the MOTHERS yes the MOTHERS they can't take
their
boys getting beat
by girls and you thought it would be the fathers so did i but i was
wrong.To all the coaches out there
keep up the good work our children need you and if you never coached
girls
it's time to try it.
Have a good day
Dave
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