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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 409
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 407
by email@hidden
2) hockey rot
by Jan de Regt
3) Re: hockey rot
by Gary Goldberg and/or Debbie Minden
4) Equipment modifications
by Anne Paulson
5) Re: hockey rot
by email@hidden (Stormwind)
6) Teams
by email@hidden (Janice M. Drummy)
7) Re: Equipment modifications
by Amanda Hansen
8) hockey rot
by email@hidden (MISS CAROLYN R SIMON)
9) Re: hockey rot
by email@hidden
10) Profiles -Reply
by "Joanna L. Avery"
11) Re: Equipment modifications
by "SYRILYN TONG"
12) Re: Equipment modifications
by Gary Goldberg and/or Debbie Minden
13) Re: hockey rot
by Jen Carder
14) Chelmsford Lions
by email@hidden
15) Re: Profiles -Reply
by "M. Cheney"
16) Re: hockey rot
by Jan de Regt
17) Re: Equipment modifications
by Jan de Regt
18) Properly fitting equipment
by email@hidden
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:16:38 -0700 (MST)
From: email@hidden
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY digest 407
Message-ID:
Re: Women's In-Line Hockey
This message is for Derek Moscato and anyone else looking for women's
in-line hockey. My name is Tamara McKernan and I am the Canadian Women's
Coordinator for the National In-Line Hockey Association, (NIHA). My
association is the national organizing body for in-line hockey in Canada
at the amateur level. In just over 2 years, we have over 100 leagues
across Canada, only a very few are women's leagues, most are co-ed.
I check in on this list at least once a day and now that someone else has
begun a discussion on women's in-line, I thought I had better jump in.
Women's in-line is on the edge of explosion, with the advancements of
womens sports, specifically the ice hockey - we are looking forward to a
very exciting 1997 season. More and more manufacturers, administrators,
parents and players are realizing that they too can get involved and do so
successfully.
Part of my job as I see it today, is to create a better network of women
who are
interested in getting involved and playing. I can also provide
information, resources, and success stories if you are interested in
getting something going in your community or bettering your present
program.
We ran our 1996 Inter-National Championships in September and had over 120
teams involved, teams of all ages, from 5 countries and we had them play
in four Sport Court rinks (2 indoors and 2 outdoors) at one centre, in Las
Vegas. Our most exciting
division was the Women's Invitational - we had 20 teams from Canada and
the U.S. - the largest gathering of women's teams in roller hockey's
history. The final game between Black Widows and Femme Fatale, we the
best women's roller hockey game I have ever seen. (It ended 1-0 for the
Black Widows).
You can contact me for information, suggesstions, concerns, ideas or just
to say Hi and that you enjoy in-line hockey in your area. In Canada you
can call toll free at 1-800-668-6442 or email on the supernet account
below.
Hope to hear from you,
Tamara
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NATIONAL IN-LINE HOCKEY ASSOCIATION (NIHA)
= The National Organizing Body for In-Line Hockey in Canada =
= email: email@hidden =
= email@hidden =
= smail: 11810 Kingsway =
= EDMONTON, AB, T5G 0X5 =
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= 1.800.668.6442 =
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Date: 11 Dec 1996 13:02:58 -0500
From: Jan de Regt
To: email@hidden (Return requested)
Subject: hockey rot
One woman on my team gets "hockey rot" (hockey scrunge?) every season.
I thought it was just something about her skin, but this year, I'm
getting it too. It's appearing on a spot on my wrist that is covered
by my glove. I got these gloves this summer, so I have worn them for
six months, but not in the winter before. About two weeks ago after I
played there was a red place that looked like it had been rubbed some,
and the next time I played, I had what looks like poison ivy (but is
not) in that same spot. It doesn't itch, burn, hurt - anything - it's
just rashy-looking.... Has anyone else experienced this? Have any
ideas on how to treat it?
Thanks,
Jan.
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:22:17 -0400
From: Gary Goldberg and/or Debbie Minden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: hockey rot
Message-ID:
> One woman on my team gets "hockey rot" (hockey scrunge?) every season.
> I thought it was just something about her skin, but this year, I'm
> getting it too. It's appearing on a spot on my wrist that is covered
> by my glove. I got these gloves this summer, so I have worn them for
> six months, but not in the winter before. About two weeks ago after I
> played there was a red place that looked like it had been rubbed some,
> and the next time I played, I had what looks like poison ivy (but is
> not) in that same spot. It doesn't itch, burn, hurt - anything - it's
> just rashy-looking.... Has anyone else experienced this? Have any
> ideas on how to treat it?
>
> Thanks,
> Jan.
My 10 year old squirt got something like that, only it itched. I was told
it was bad luck to wash hockey equipment (and anything that cuts down
laundry is a blessing) so I left all the stuff alone. We tried some
Lotrimin, which is over the counter and for athlete's foot and other fungi.
It worked. But since I'm not a doctor follow the instructions and see your
doctor.
Debbie
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:57:31 -0800
From: Anne Paulson
To: email@hidden
Subject: Equipment modifications
Message-ID:
Thanks to everyone for their advice about skates for wide feet. I have
indeed signed up for the beginning hockey class. After last week's
orientation I was feeling some trepidation (everyone else in the class so far
is male, and they all looked huge and wide- and this was in street clothes),
but I'm hanging in there. I went off a couple of days ago to get my
equipment, and returned with a huge bag of stuff and an empty wallet. I
followed the advice of those who said to try CCM Tacks 652; they seemed
comfortable and wide enough. They were on sale too :) I got my little boy a
pair of little Tacks just like Mom's so we can practice skating together-
we'll have to skate a lot so that I can amortize his skates against the cost
of the babysitting I'd otherwise have to pay for.
The shop I went to offered something of a deal for a beginner's package of
equipment. I opted to upgrade the pants and elbow pads, figuring I'd spend a
lot of time falling. The Cooper HP1000 pants I ended up with have what seems
to me to be an enormous amount of padding. I was surprised at the tight fit-
I thought hockey pants were supposed to be loose- but they're not so tight as
to be constricting, and the salesperson assured me that they're supposed to
fit like that.
I tried on some shoulder pads especially designed for women, but the padding
seemed to get in my way, and they were obviously designed for a woman more
well-endowed than I. I chose instead the cheapie Jofas. Being designed for
men, they have a flat front. I do not. I'm planning to sew a dart in the
side of the neoprene chest piece to make them fit better. Has anyone tried
this? How about the shoulder pieces- they attach with velcro, but is there
a reason why I shouldn't just select the right placement and sew the
attachment down? By the way, the advice to try elbow pads and shoulder pads
at the same time was good; indeed some I tried didn't work together.
I got a pelvic protector, and what an uncomfortable piece of equipment it is.
A little judicious lengthening of the leg elastic should help, but has anyone
tried reshaping the hard foam part? It seems a bit too wide- would it be a
mistake to cut it down?
I tried on all the stuff together (except skates) when I got home, and was
astounded to see how wide I was. That reminds me, what do you wear under all
this equipment? I had thought to try a polypro shirt and bike tights.
-- Anne Paulson
Thanks for all your advice.
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:41:30 -0800
From: email@hidden (Stormwind)
To: Subscribers to ,
Subject: Re: hockey rot
Message-ID:
> One woman on my team gets "hockey rot" (hockey scrunge?) every season.
> I thought it was just something about her skin, but this year, I'm
> getting it too. It's appearing on a spot on my wrist that is covered
> by my glove.
there are several types of skin
conditions you can develop from
hockey gear:
1. contact rash. generally from
skin friction or some chemical
used to cure some portion of the
gear. to prevent this, wrap some
hockey tape around the afflicted
part to ensure the skin is covered.
2. fungal infection. just like shoes,
fungus can live in damp humid gear.
and it can get on your skin as well.
fungal infections can be hard to treat;
if it tries to spread, definitely see
a dermatologist. to help prevent
fungus growth, be sure to air your gear
out thoroughly and place in direct
sunlight often.
3. dry skin eczema/dermatitis. this
is an existing skin condition that
is worsened by frequent washing and
temperature extremes. it's generally
a fast-spreading red rash that ITCHES!!!!!
it has nothing to do with gear, and
everything to do with dry skin (i
developed this myself this year).
definitely see a dermatologist for
this one.
> not) in that same spot. It doesn't itch, burn, hurt - anything - it's
> just rashy-looking.... Has anyone else experienced this? Have any
> ideas on how to treat it?
try wrapping cloth or tape around the
area when you play, and see if that
doesn't help.
My 10 year old squirt got something like that, only it itched. I was told
it was bad luck to wash hockey equipment
(snort) nobody's more superstitious than
goalies, and THIS goalie washes her gear
at least once a season. you chuck it in the
washer just like everything else, soap and
all, after removing the hard padding, then
you pop it in the dryer. personally, i find
i play better when my gear isn't giving off
a reek that makes it hard to breathe.
women be warned: if you develop a yeast infection
and play in your hockey gear and DON'T wash your
hockey pants and jocks, you run the risk of
re-infecting yourself again. at the very least
you want to soak the crotch in a clorox/water
solution or pure rubbing alcohol.
stormwind
hell's amazon
lord of the frozen realm
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 96 15:40:57 -0500
From: email@hidden (Janice M. Drummy)
To: email@hidden (email@hidden)
Subject: Teams
Message-ID:
Hi!
This is a GREAT Web Site! Just new to the site but not the sport!
Was wondering if anyone out there knows of a Team or Teams needing a player,
(me!), in the Greater Boston, MA area? I work in Burlington, MA.
Thanks!
Jan
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:55:56 -0700
From: Amanda Hansen
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Equipment modifications
Message-ID:
That reminds me, what do you wear under all
>this equipment? I had thought to try a polypro shirt and bike tights.
>
>-- Anne Paulson
>
>Thanks for all your advice.
>
Anne,
I recommend wearing cotton clothes under your equipment. I wear an old
t-shirt, with no prints, and some cotton bike-style shorts. Cotton boxers
shorts also work really well. Also, wear cotton panties and sports bra.
Air breathes really well through the cotton and helps to keep you cool.
Good luck!
Amanda Hansen
Provo, UT
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:17:36, -0500
From: email@hidden (MISS CAROLYN R SIMON)
To: email@hidden
Subject: hockey rot
Message-ID:
A disgusting topic, yes, but I felt I had to contribute...
Two summers ago I attended a Huron Hockey School at South Mountain
Arena in West Orange, NJ. Basically, you are on the ice first thing
in the morning and then right before you leave. So your equipment
sits in your bag and ferments, and then you put on cold, wet
equipment. The worst to me is my shinguards, basically because of
this camp. Because around the 2nd or third day I looked at my shins
and they were pink with little bumps on them. I had noooo idea what
it was from. I assume it is some kind of rash formed from the
combination of sweaty equipment and the friction caused between teh
sweaty equipment and my leg. It goes away within a couple of days...I
just wash my legs really well with disinfectant soap and I have no
problems. Like Jan said, it neither itches, hurts, anything...it's
just kind of there to remind me how unsanitary it is to wear wet
equipment.
-Carolyn #21
New Jersey Selects
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:20:43 -0500
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: hockey rot
Message-ID:
I have had problems for years with this red spot.. I've even gone to
the Doctor on it... But I get it on my face.. I have had luck with using
Cortizone-10 ointment or the lotion.. I hope this works for you...
Christine...
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:49:17 -0500
From: "Joanna L. Avery"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Profiles -Reply
Message-ID:
Are there a lot of women's teams in the Denver area? What is
participation like in Denver as far as women are concerned?
>>> Shannon 11/25/96 12:58pm >>>
Ok. I'll go ahead and give my profile...
Age: 28. I've been playing for just over a year now. I had watched
hockey for years, but was a speed skater. My husband has always
played,
and after 18 years of speed-skating, I decided I needed a new sport.
This is my first year playing with women, and although the speed is
slower than the mens, the stick handling is much better (something I
really need to work on!)
Teams: Denver High Peaks (women). We're a team with all ranges of
abilities, from beginners to those who have played over 15 years. They
are a very positive group of women, and we have a great time every
game,
win or lose. Also play for Nilex Rangers in a mostly mens rec league.
There are quite a few beginners on the team, but they also have a great
attitude and are just happy to be out there. Both are non-check leagues.
Equipment: Bauer 4000 skates, CCM pants (good, but I want to get a
girdle
and shell), Koho gloves , brand new CCM elbow pads ( I hate the bigger
pads, but they sure help when I play the men and have to use my
elbows ifor
self defense), Joffa shin guards (I think). I got them used in Canada with
all my other eqipment. I will not skimp on those! (I have been hit with
some guys slapshots at close range and still been injured), Cooper helmit
with a clear face sheild (100% improvement over my cage) Thin, Bauer
shoulder pads ( I don't like big ones at all).
Fighting: Ok. thought I'd add this to my profile. I don't like fighting,
even though I am a very physical and agressive player. The women
tend to
play a very clean game, and I don't get too defensive out there when I
get
hit. I also try to be clean, so I don't get into too many altercations.
However, I have gotten into a couple of fights with guys (hate to admit
that). I have found that many men at the beginner level seem to get mad
if I outskate or outplay them, and I have been cross-checked in the head,
slashed on the neck, etc. I actually had a guy start punching me in the
chest because I beat him along the boards, yelling obscenities the whole
time. Nothing infuriates me more than a man getting physically violent
with me, so I have lost my temper and started throwing punches when I
get
blatent, dangerous cheap shots (I don't mind the clean checks, getting
bumped off the puck, or even tripped if on a breakaway). I play a tough,
but clean game.
Ok..didn't mean to write a disertation, but I love reading everyones
profiles to see who has had similar experiences .
<> <> <> Shannon Pelot Valerio <> <> <>
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:42:51 AST9ADT
From: "SYRILYN TONG"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Equipment modifications
Message-ID:
I love it! Someone else who modifies their equipment to
their size and shape! By all means, modify but try not to
compromise the protection. I have modified my pelvic
protector (actually, I have modified every piece of
equipment I own!), but have added more padding (I'm a
puckstopper), but if it's too large, open it up, cut it
down, and file down the edges. If it's not comfortable,
you won't wear it, and that could be a mistake. When I
skate, I just wear a pair of sweats, but others wear shorts
and the socks/garter combo. Again, whatever you're
comfortable with! Happy skating!
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:17:34 -0400
From: Gary Goldberg and/or Debbie Minden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Equipment modifications
Message-ID:
I have modified my pelvic
>protector (actually, I have modified every piece of
>equipment I own!), but have added more padding (I'm a
>puckstopper), but if it's too large, open it up, cut it
>down, and file down the edges. If it's not comfortable,
>you won't wear it, and that could be a mistake.
The pelvic protector is a real bugaboo for me. I have little girls -9 and
10 - and there are none that fit them. I have been on the phone to
manufacturers and haunted hockey stores and can't find one for a thin 4'6"
or a chubby 4'6". Any suggestions? The only thing that looked ok was a
boys goalie cup, but they said it felt awful. Help.
Debbie
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:38:53 -0600 (CST)
From: Jen Carder
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: hockey rot
Message-ID:
>My 10 year old squirt got something like that, only it itched. I was told
>it was bad luck to wash hockey equipment (and anything that cuts down
>laundry is a blessing) so I left all the stuff alone. We tried some
>Lotrimin, which is over the counter and for athlete's foot and other fungi.
>It worked. But since I'm not a doctor follow the instructions and see your
>doctor.
Actually, I had something like that on my elbows and legs so I went to a
Doctor and she prescribed Triamcinolone. It works really well but she
didn't give me much and I have a feeling it's expensive. Since I'm a student
I get it free but I don't know what I'm going to do in a year or so when I
graduate. Hope this helps...
Jen Carder
#28 Captain
University of Illinios
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 22:10:53 -0500
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Subject: Chelmsford Lions
Message-ID:
Hi,
I was wondering if someone could give me information about the
Chelmsford Lions Womens' Hockey Organization in Massachusetts. I.E. the
name and phone number of the person or persons who run it....
Thanks,
Avril #1
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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 03:37:28 -0800
From: "M. Cheney"
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Profiles -Reply
Message-ID:
There are four teams in Denver and another one up in Boulder. There are
also several women who play in the Rocky Mountain Hockey League (co-ed,
all levels of competition).
There is enough interest in women's hockey that we could probably have
atleast 1 or 2 additional teams in Denver, but like everywhere else in
the country, there is just not enough ice available.
Hope that answers your question.
Mary Cheney
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Date: 12 Dec 1996 07:24:50 -0500
From: Jan de Regt
To: email@hidden (Return requested),
Subject: Re: hockey rot
I was thinking about this more, and realized one difference in keeping
my equipment that developed recently. I *always* air out all my
equipment when I get home, and wash it several times a year. I put
pieces of cedar into each glove - closet freshener things. The cedar
acts as a dessicant and helps the insides of the gloves dry out (and
also keeps your hands from getting that nasty glove smell). A while
ago, I lost one of these cedar rounds, and I wonder if that's
contributed to my wrist rash?
Anyway, I'll try keeping it covered when I play for the next few
weeks, and see if that works!
Thanks for all the replies,
Jan.
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: hockey rot
Author: email@hidden at Internet
Date: 12/11/96 6:18 PM
A disgusting topic, yes, but I felt I had to contribute...
Two summers ago I attended a Huron Hockey School at South Mountain
Arena in West Orange, NJ. Basically, you are on the ice first thing
in the morning and then right before you leave. So your equipment
sits in your bag and ferments, and then you put on cold, wet
equipment. The worst to me is my shinguards, basically because of
this camp. Because around the 2nd or third day I looked at my shins
and they were pink with little bumps on them. I had noooo idea what
it was from. I assume it is some kind of rash formed from the
combination of sweaty equipment and the friction caused between teh
sweaty equipment and my leg. It goes away within a couple of days...I
just wash my legs really well with disinfectant soap and I have no
problems. Like Jan said, it neither itches, hurts, anything...it's
just kind of there to remind me how unsanitary it is to wear wet
equipment.
-Carolyn #21
New Jersey Selects
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Date: 12 Dec 1996 07:25:07 -0500
From: Jan de Regt
To: email@hidden (Return requested),
Subject: Re: Equipment modifications
PLEASE, PLEASE *beware* of sales people in hockey shops telling you
"it's supposed to fit like that"! Especially if that person is male
and you are not! There are an astounding number of idiots out there
who will tell you anything to look like they know what they're talking
about. When I started, I knew nothing about how hockey equipment was
supposed to fit, and I ended up eventually replacing ALL of my
equipment, because none of it fit quite right to start with. If you
are unsure of the fit of the pants - try others on and go with what
seems to feel right to you. Hockey pants shouldn't be tight anywhere.
On the pelvic protector, before you cut anything, try shifting the way
you are wearing it back and forth and from side to side a bit. By
shifting it a bit after you first put it on you should be able to find
a comforatble fit where you don't even know you have it on.
You say your shoulder pads velcro on to the chest protector part? I
haven't seen that, but my shoulder pads and chest protector are all
one piece, as are any others I've seen, so I don't see why you
couldn't sew yours together.
Under it all, I wear a jog bra, a t-shirt (under my chest protector)
and bike shorts with velcro sewn on to hold up my hockey socks. If
you prefer to use garters, just go with the bike shorts.
GOOD LUCK!
Jan.
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Equipment modifications
Author: email@hidden at Internet
Date: 12/11/96 3:56 PM
Thanks to everyone for their advice about skates for wide feet. I have
indeed signed up for the beginning hockey class. After last week's
orientation I was feeling some trepidation (everyone else in the class so far
is male, and they all looked huge and wide- and this was in street clothes),
but I'm hanging in there. I went off a couple of days ago to get my
equipment, and returned with a huge bag of stuff and an empty wallet. I
followed the advice of those who said to try CCM Tacks 652; they seemed
comfortable and wide enough. They were on sale too :) I got my little boy a
pair of little Tacks just like Mom's so we can practice skating together-
we'll have to skate a lot so that I can amortize his skates against the cost
of the babysitting I'd otherwise have to pay for.
The shop I went to offered something of a deal for a beginner's package of
equipment. I opted to upgrade the pants and elbow pads, figuring I'd spend a
lot of time falling. The Cooper HP1000 pants I ended up with have what seems
to me to be an enormous amount of padding. I was surprised at the tight fit-
I thought hockey pants were supposed to be loose- but they're not so tight as
to be constricting, and the salesperson assured me that they're supposed to
fit like that.
I tried on some shoulder pads especially designed for women, but the padding
seemed to get in my way, and they were obviously designed for a woman more
well-endowed than I. I chose instead the cheapie Jofas. Being designed for
men, they have a flat front. I do not. I'm planning to sew a dart in the
side of the neoprene chest piece to make them fit better. Has anyone tried
this? How about the shoulder pieces- they attach with velcro, but is there
a reason why I shouldn't just select the right placement and sew the
attachment down? By the way, the advice to try elbow pads and shoulder pads
at the same time was good; indeed some I tried didn't work together.
I got a pelvic protector, and what an uncomfortable piece of equipment it is.
A little judicious lengthening of the leg elastic should help, but has anyone
tried reshaping the hard foam part? It seems a bit too wide- would it be a
mistake to cut it down?
I tried on all the stuff together (except skates) when I got home, and was
astounded to see how wide I was. That reminds me, what do you wear under all
this equipment? I had thought to try a polypro shirt and bike tights.
-- Anne Paulson
Thanks for all your advice.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:39:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
To: email@hidden
Cc: email@hidden
Subject: Properly fitting equipment
Message-ID:
I agree with Jan - NEVER take a salesperson's word for it. I am trying to sell
my equipment - gloves, helmet, shoulder pads, and elbow pads - because they
weren't fitted properly to me. I have a Men's Medium shoulder pad and you
wouldn't believe the difference between a Men's Medium and a Men's Small. They
look like night and day on me. The chest protector part of the shoulder pad is
so long, I could tuck it into my pants. On the Men's Small - it comes down just
to the top of the pants and fits much better! When I bought those Men's Medium
pads, the salesman (Note "MAN") told me they fit perfectly. I didn't know the
difference and they felt like they offered enough protection for me - only
because they were so big!
Pants are not supposed to fit tight at all. I was just noticing that on one of
our college hockey team's players. Her pants look extremely tight - when you're
so used to seeing loose-fitting pants and equipment, it really stands out. I
tried on tons of pants before I found one that fit me perfectly - the CCM HP410
in a Junior size Large.
Just my opinion...
Diane
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