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WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 84
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) FAQ - Women in Hockey Mailing List
by email@hidden (Chuq Von Rospach)
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Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 08:50:48 -0600
From: email@hidden (Chuq Von Rospach)
To: email@hidden
Subject: FAQ - Women in Hockey Mailing List
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> This copy of the FAQ posted on Mon May 1 00:00:22 PDT 1995
> Last update April 13, 1995
>
> EVERYONE should read this document at least once, especially the section on
> the charter an what constitutes acceptable postings and behavior. Ignorance
> of the rules is not considered an excuse. Please work with us to help make
> this place a fun list to be on.
>
> This is the Introduction for the women-in-hockey mailing lists,
> which is for women who play ice, roller or street hockey, and the people
> involved with them in some way.
>
> Please note there are five other affiliated, independent lists:
> shark-bytes, for fans of the NHL San Jose Sharks, bay-area-hockey for
> regional amateur hockey information, ihl, for the fans of the
> International Hockey League, roller-hockey-intl, for information on the
> RHI summer hockey league, and hockey-list-admins, which is a list
> designed specifically for people who maintain mailing lists or other
> Internet Resources about hockey to compare notes and talk to each
> other. They have their own intro documents, home pages and other
> material, and if you're interested in these topics, you can get more
> information on them with the instructions below.
>
> These lists are managed by Laurie Sefton (email@hidden) and by
> Chuq Von Rospach (email@hidden).
>
> To suggest additions, changes, corrections or anything else, send mail
> to chuqui@netcom or email@hidden. Mail server problems should be sent to
> email@hidden.
>
> This document is posted to the mailing list twice a month, on the 1st
> and 15th. All automatically posted messages will have the a subject
> starting with "FAQ -". All IMPORTANT administrative messages will have a
> subject that begins with "Admin:". Users are requested to please read these.
>
> ============
> Table of Contents
> ============
> 0) Please note: automated subscriptions
> 1) How to find the Home Page and Archives
> 2) Important Mail Server Commands
> 3) Charter: What's Acceptable/What's not
>
> ============
> 0) Please note:
> ============
> This list is run on an automated mail server. You should keep a copy of the
> server commands handy in case you need to change your subscription. Please
> do NOT under any circumstances post administrative commands or requests for
> server help to the public list. If you can't make it work, write to the
> admin directly. If you're too lazy to make it work, that's not my problem.
> The List Moms are ALSO very busy people and don't appreciate being
> interrupted by people who won't follow the rules. (it's different if you try
> and fail. That's what we're here for. And don't lie about trying. That's
> what logs are here for. We'll know).
>
> ============
> 1) How to find the Home Page and Archives
> ============
> This document is:
> ftp://abs.apple.com/pub/hockey/women-in-hockey/women-in-hockey.INTRO
>
> The World Wide Web home page for this mailing list is:
> http://abs.apple.com/pub/hockey/women-in-hockey/
>
> The home page contains pointers to all of the available related
> information, both on our server and in other places on the net.
>
> If you do not have World Wide Web access, you can access these documents
> using anonymous ftp, on host abs.apple.com, and look in the directory
> pub/hockey/women-in-hockey. While they're written in HTML, they're still
>easy to
> read as straight text. The pointers to the most often requested files are:
>
> The ftp archive is by anonymous ftp or gopher to host abs.apple.com, in
> the directory pub/hockey/women-in-hockey. There is also more general hockey
> information in directories starting in pub/hockey that you might want
> to browse. The general starting point for this server's WWW pages is
> http://abs.apple.com/pub/hockey/
>
> All messages to the list are archived in the "message-archives" folder.
>
> If you have ONLY e-mail access, you can use the mail server to get copies of
> these files. you need to get a copy of the file "intro.to.listproc" as
> defined below to find more information on this. Please note that because so
> few people use this feature, we don't have always have the e-mail gateway up
> to date with the rest of the system, but we will keep access to the most
> important files working.
>
> ============
> 2) Important Mail Server commands
> ============
>
> Posting to the list: Submissions should be sent to:
>
> email@hidden
>
> As appropriate.
>
> You must be a subscriber to the list to post to it. Listproc (the mail
> server we use) is very picky about your address: if you work from multiple
> machines or forward mail from one place to another, it is very likely not to
> recognize you as a subscriber. Please keep that in mind and subscribe and
> post from your primary account.
>
> All server commands are sent to the address:
>
> email@hidden
>
> Do not send server commands to the actual list! That is considered very
> rude to the user base.
>
> You can put more than one command in an e-mail message. Please note
> that if your e-mail messages contain signatures or footer lines,
> listproc will attempt to read them as commands and return an error to
> you. This can be ignored if you also get the confirmation back on the
> earlier commands. you SHOULD get a confirmation e-mail letter (or error
> warning) for EVERY command you send to listproc. If you didn't,
> something went wrong. Try it again, and if it still doesn't work,
> contact the admin address for help.
>
> The following commands are the most common ones. These are used in the
> body of the e-mail message, not the Subject line. Leave the Subject
> line blank. Use your real name, not your e-mail address.
>
> To get on the list:
> SUBSCRIBE women-in-hockey yourname
>
> (example: SUBSCRIBE hockey-chat Chuq Von Rospach)
>
> To cancel your subscription:
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE women-in-hockey
> (Do NOT use "email@hidden", use "women-in-hockey").
>
> To turn on DIGEST mode:
>
> SET women-in-hockey MAIL DIGEST
>
> To turn off DIGEST mode:
>
> SET women-in-hockey MAIL ACK
> (yes, it's amazingly intuitive. I didn't write it)
>
> Other commands: [do note include text in brackets]
>
> GET listproc intro.to.listproc [a more complete tutorial
> use this for info on the e-mail archive
> service if you have no ftp.]
> HELP [some basic commands. get the tutorial]
> LISTS [tells you what lists are on this server]
> INFO listname [get intro for a list from the LISTS verb]
>
> Example (based on Unix. your mailer will vary):
>
> % mail email@hidden
> Subject:
>
> SUBSCRIBE hockey-chat Chuq Von Rospach
> SET hockey-chat MAIL DIGEST
> HELP
> LIST
> GET listproc intro.to-listproc
> INFO bay-area-hockey
> INFO roller-hockey-intl
> INFO sharks
> INFO ihl
>
> %
>
> ============
> 3) Charter: What's Acceptable, What's Not
> ============
> Everyone is requested to read the rules and charter at least once and to
> please abide by them. Failure to cooperate can lead to having your posting
> privileges revoked, or to find yourself removed from the list completely.
>
> Please note: the List Moms (email@hidden, aka email@hidden
> and Laurie Sefton (email@hidden) have the final and ONLY say as to
> what is and isn't appropriate content. If you are requested to close
> out a discussion, take it to e-mail, or shift it to one of the other
> mailing lists, please comply. You can discuss the situation with us,
> and we're willing to listen, but ultimately, nobody else gets a vote.
>
> Anyone who feels a posting or message thread is out of line should
> contact the List Mom. Users who try to take content issues into their
> own hands will only make the List Mom very unhappy with them and are
> subject to discipline like any person who violates the charter.
>
> These rules are in place because users taking content issues into their own
> hands is one of the most common causes of flamewars. The List Moms don't like
> flamewars. Let's all work together to keep the lists a fun place to be.
>
> +++ Acceptable uses:
>
> Anything having to do with women playing ice, street, or roller hockey,
> or who are somehow involved in these sports. People interested in
> getting involved with the sports and/or playing are also welcome. This
> list is not limited to women only, but to anyone involved in women's hockey.
>
> We are excluding field hockey from the list, since it's different enough
> from ice/roller hockey to deserve it's own lists, and because the audiences
> are distinct enough that we feel it's a reasonable distinction. We're open
> for discussion on this.
>
> +++ Unacceptable uses:
>
> o We will take a VERY hard stand against brain-dead gender flames. This
> is not a discussion list where people can discuss WHETHER women ought to
> play hockey. The reality is they DO, and they should. People who attempt to
> act like Male Chauvinist Pigs will find their tenure on the list very short,
> and not very satisfying.
>
> o For Sale or Wanted to Buy messages. Don't post either to these lists under
> any circumstances.
>
> o Blatant sales hype and pitches. Use discretion. The same general
> attitude that USENET takes on this stuff is the guideline here. If you
> aren't absolutely sure, run it past the List Mom first and get an opinion.
>
> o Flaming and abusive language: We expect the users of this list to be
> mature, intelligent people. The few who prove themselves exceptions will
> find little patience from the List Moms.
>
> We don't mind when emotions run high. We do mind when people lose control
> of them. We think of this place as a sports bar where everyone gets
> together and watches the games and then buys each other beers and talks.
> We do NOT want to run a bar where people watch games and then throw the
> chairs at each other.
>
> o You may not use addresses obtained from this list to harrass others or
> send them offensive, abusive or blatantly commercial e-mail. People
> who abuse other members of this list, either in public or private, are
> in violation of this list's charter. If a user is upset enough by your
> e-mail to report it to us in a complaint, then as List Mom, we have the
> responsibility to investigate the problem and take action if we feel
> it necessary.
>
> o Do not post copyrighted material. It's illegal to type something in
> from a newspaper verbatim, or repost something sent out via Clarinet. Yes,
> we know it happens all over the net. That doesn't make it right or legal. If
> you DO do it, you put both yourself and us as owners of the list at legal
> risk if the copyright holder decides to fight. You CAN post a pointer to the
> work, summarize what the work is saying, post quotes from the work within
> the boundaries of fair use (and feel free to ask us if you aren't sure), but
> posting entire articles is a major no-no. Failure to cooperate on this one
> can get you kicked off the list, so please be careful. If you aren't sure,
> ask first.
>
> o Do not post or forward messages of general interest, mass-distributed
> warnings, rumors, good samaritan messages or chain letters to this list.
> Craig Shergold doesn't want any more postcards, honest. Before posting
> anything like this, check with the List Moms to determine whether it's
> appropriate. We don't care how important you think the subject is, whether
> it's a new computer virus rumor or a get well card -- it's not appropriate
> for this list unless we've cleared it in advance. Period. Users who violate
> this rule will lose their posting priviledges to the listproc.
>
> Users who are found in violation of the charter are subject to disciplinary
> action, from warnings to removal of their posting priviledges to being
> banned from use of the mailing lists on this server. If you can't behave, we
> feel no responsibility to let you use the services we provide.
>
> +++ Suggestions for being a good citizen
>
> o Before you POST, check the home page to see if the answers are
> already in the archive. Let's try to avoid having to answer the same
> questions over, and over, and over.
>
> o Keep postings as short as possible.
>
> o If you include quoted material, edit it ruthlessly. Keep the smallest
> amount necessary for context. Do NOT simply leave it stuck to the end of
> your message (as mailers like QuickMail like to do), since it REALLY screws
> up the digest users. Edit, edit, edit!
>
> o Keep signatures as short as possible.
>
> o Keep Subject lines relevant. If the topic changes, change the Subject. If
> you are a digest reader, CHANGE the Subject to the appropriate Subject. If
> you don't, all we see is "Re: Hockey-Chat Digest $...", which is
> meaningless, and which many readers don't bother to read. Take a little time
> and make the Subject line useful.
>
> o Ask yourself if it's necessary to post to the entire list. If you aren't
> sure, e-mail it privately to the person you're responding to.
>
> o If someone asks a question and you want a copy of the answers, e-mail the
> request PRIVATELY. Don't send it to the entire list.
>
> o If you ask a question and people send you answers, PLEASE send copies to
> people that ask. If you get more than a couple of requests, then please put
> the answers together and post a summary to the list, AND e-mail a copy to the
> List Mom so it can be put in the archive so future users can get it without
> asking the question again.
>
> o Please keep the length of lines in messages posted to the list to no more
> than 72 characters. If your mailer doesn't auto-wrap things (Eudora does;
> most Unix mailers do NOT) then make sure you hit the return key instead of
> sending huge, one-line paragraphs. Those can be unreadable to many users.
>
> o In general, the harder it is for a person to read your message, the
> less likely the person with the answer to your question will bother to
> respond. Make it as easy as possible for people to read your message, and
> people will. Putting a little time into cleaning things up before you send
> it off can mean the difference between silence and getting the answer you
> need, and is the difference between someone being a good net.citizen and
> someone who comes across as a net.slob.
>
> ---- end of women-in-hockey.INTRO ----
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Chuq Von Rospach
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