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			    WOMEN-IN-HOCKEY Digest 132

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Charlotte Hockey
	by Joan Jeffries 
  2) Re: Nationals in Canada
	by "Andria L. Hunter" 
  3) Re: Starting a Girls team
	by email@hidden (Louise Mallory)
  4) Re: 
	by email@hidden (Chuq Von Rospach)
  5) Roster Limits
	by email@hidden (Kim Yeoh)
  6) Re: Roster Limits
	by email@hidden (chuck goolsbee)

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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:22:04 -0500
From: Joan Jeffries 
To: email@hidden
Subject: Charlotte Hockey
Message-ID: 

Hi Everyone!   Just to quickly introduce myself, my name is Joan Jeffries
from Charlotte, NC.  I have just agreed to play in a women's hockey league
that is forming in the Charlotte area.  The response to the league has been
tremendous as 32 women have already stressed interest and more and more are
calling everyday.  We are very pleased to have Manon Rheaume offer to play 
with us in her free time and assist us all in learning more about the game.
The 1996 year will be spent teaching all of us how to skate and learning the
fundamentals of the game.  Hopefully we will be ready for competition in
1997.  It has already been a great learning experience for me and we haven't
even had our first practice.  If there is anyone else out there in the NC
rea who would be interested in joining this team or getting involved in any
way, please contact me.  We'd be more that happy to have you!

Wish us all good luck!
Joan Jeffries
email@hidden


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Date: 	Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:29:01 -0500
From: "Andria L. Hunter" 
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Nationals in Canada
Message-ID: 

>Does anyone know if there are "Nationals" in Canada as well?  I know
>there is the Provincial and Canada Games.

Yes, there is a National Senior Championship in Canada each year.  This
year it will be held in Moncton, New Brunswick from March 20-26, 1996.
Some provinces send a representive (all-star) team, while others send
the team that wins the top senior level provincial championship that year.

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Results from last year:
  Location:  Summerside, Prince Edward Island
  Date:      March 22-26, 1995

 1.  Quebec (Team Quebec)
 2.  New Brunswick (Team NB)
 3.  Alberta
 4.  Ontario (Mississauga Chiefs)
 5.  British Columbia
 6.  Saskatchewan
 7.  Manitoba
 8.  Prince Edward Island
 9.  Nova Scotia

 Gold Medal game:   Quebec 5  New Brunswick  2
 Bronze Medal game: Alberta 3  Ontario  0
 5th Place game:    BC  4  Saskatchewan  1
 7th Place game:    Manitoba  5   PEI  3

Andria Hunter

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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:46:12 +0800
From: email@hidden (Louise Mallory)
To: email@hidden,
Subject: Re: Starting a Girls team
Message-ID: 

At 11:55 PM 1/3/96, email@hidden wrote:
>     I am the Bantam Age Group Coordinator for the Tri-Cities, WA AHA.  I
>     have two girls who currently play on boys teams, and with a select
>     girls team in another association.  I would like to push our
>     association to allow the formation of a girls team in our association.
>     The board is reluctant to allocate the ice time for such a team at
>     this time.  I am looking for ways that other associations have used to
>     do the following:

In my opinion, it is usually a big mistake to start a female team as part
of a mostly-male minor hockey organization.

In the long run, you will be much more successful if you start a *female
hockey organization*, with board members who are all interested in
promoting female hockey.

You should not have to justify your need for ice time to the board of a
boys' hockey organization.  You should apply for your own ice time.

I believe this very strongly, because of my observations over the last 20
years in Ontario as well as the last 5 years in Mid-Am District of USA
Hockey.  The female teams that are part of boys' hockey organizations are
"trapped" in an unhelpful structure.  They don't get as much good ice time
as the girls' teams which are in separate female organizations.  Often they
are not "allowed" to expand their female-hockey programs to younger ages,
or to recreational programs, or to adults, because of rules set by the
boys' hockey organization.  In female hockey organizations, young women are
trained and encouraged to become referees and coaches and hockey
organizers.  In female hockey organizations, all the fund-raising money
earned by female hockey supporters goes back to female hockey.

Please, start a female hockey organization instead.

Louise

*       Louise                                                  *
*  "No-one said it would be easy; no-one thought we'd come this far." *
*                                                  -Sheryl Crow       *



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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 07:46:15 -0700
From: email@hidden (Chuq Von Rospach)
To: Eric Sharonn , email@hidden
Cc: email@hidden
Subject: Re: 
Message-ID: 

At 4:02 PM 1/4/96, Eric Sharonn wrote:

> Please remove my address from your mailist of e-mail addresses. I wish to
> UNSUBSCRIBE from thte list. Many thanks.

The instructions are available from . We do not
act on requests sent to the entire list -- that's not the right way to
do things, and only creates noise and annoys everyone else on the list.
Since the instructions are posted twice a month, we don't feel it's too
much to ask people to please follow them.

Chuq

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:02:39 -0500
From: email@hidden (Kim Yeoh)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Roster Limits
Message-ID: 

Does any other women's (senior division) ice hockey team find difficulty=
 with the 20 player (18 skaters, 2 goalies) maximum roster rule set by USA=
 Hockey?  This year in particular we are finding that we have more than 20=
 women interested in playing, but few can commit to playing all the games=
 (due to numerous other commitments).  So when we are only able to roster 20=
 women, we often find that we have less that number available to play many=
 of our games (even though there are others who could play, but did not fit=
 on our original roster).  I'd be interested in knowing if this is a common=
 problem among other senior division teams (particularly women's).

Thanks,
Kim
email@hidden



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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:10:43 -0800
From: email@hidden (chuck goolsbee)
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Roster Limits
Message-ID: 

>Does any other women's (senior division) ice hockey team find difficulty
>with the 20 player (18 skaters, 2 goalies) maximum roster rule set by USA
>Hockey?

As a referee I feel compelled to inform you that as of this season,
USAHockey changed this rule. You are now allowed to list a maximum of 20
*players*, with at least one being a goaltender. Meaning you can have 19
skaters if you wish. I realize that this does not solve your larger
problem, but at least you can squeeze one more skater on the bench.

Your other option, which has been taken here in Seattle, is to split into
two (or more) teams. The Seattle Women's Hockey Club, formed seven years
ago, started with six players, and have since grown to just short of a
three team league. They have a "tier 1" team, the Wings,that play in the
Vancouver B.C.-based Lower Mainland Female Hockey League, Senior AA level,
travels to play other USAHockey senior teams, and plans to represent
Washington state in the USAHockey Nationals this year. The "tier 2" team:
The PuckHawks (formerly the Orcas) also plays in the L.M.F.H.L, plays other
tier 2 teams in the Pacific Northwest (though few and far between: Spokane,
Bellingham, Portland, Sun Valley, etc.) Next year, if they can convince
three more women to play they will spilt into a three team intramural
league, in addition to the travel teams. None of these intramural teams
will be close to having a full 20-player bench, but the focus is more on
player development and individual ice-time.

If any teams out there are interested in playing a series of games in the
PNW (especially if you plan on traveling to watch the Pacific Rim Women's
hockey tourney in Vancouver this spring) contact Susan Goolsbee @
206-782-3191. She could arrange for as many games as you could play in
Seattle WA & Vancouver B.C.

obstupid: USAHockey game sheets have 21 "player" spaces on them, one more
than is allowed by the rules. It is obvious whoever laid out the sheet
before it went to the press had little or no knowledge of the rule book. In
my experience as a referee I have had more than one team (usually in men's
recreational leagues) wonder why they can't have 21 players. After all
"there is room on the sheet!"

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chuck goolsbee  email@hidden  email@hidden  206-284-1800
Minister of Silly Information Technology   TPD Publishing Inc. Seattle
* Designated Hockey Widower of the Seattle Wings Women's Hockey Club *
registered referee & linesman          USAHockey, C.A.H.A, & B.C.A.H.A.



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